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Looking back apon the 12 pages of this thread, it has seems to me that we are not supposed to know what happens in the afterlife. After all, if we all knew we where going to go to heaven, what would be the point of living? There IS no point of living, exsept for the sake of having something alive. ...
by manlian
February 17th, 2006, 4:51 am
 
Forum: Philosophy, Religion & Politics
Topic: Theories about god
Replies: 438
Views: 450604

Let me try to restart this thread by presenting a very debateable topic. Is suicide morally wrong? Well, since morality is by definition the author of both good and evil, I think an action is only immoral when juxtaposed against a specific moral system. So a catholic might say oh yes very immoral, ...
by manlian
February 12th, 2006, 6:06 am
 
Forum: Philosophy, Religion & Politics
Topic: Theories about god
Replies: 438
Views: 450604

There's a term in medicine called diagnosing a zebra. It referrs to when a doctor diagnoses a patient for a disease nobody's heard of in years when its far more likely that it's a common disease displaying uncommon symptoms. Basically If ya press your ear to their chest and heer hooves then go ahea...
by manlian
February 9th, 2006, 6:00 am
 
Forum: Philosophy, Religion & Politics
Topic: THE VERY BIG QUESTION OF MORALITY
Replies: 110
Views: 105351

I hate to be a downer but I don't actually believe in ANYTHING metaphysical. For me it seems obvious that God is a human creation, like Santa but for adults. In all practical senses I'm the same. However I do think it would be hubris not to account for the fact that there are inherent limits to our...
by manlian
February 8th, 2006, 11:43 am
 
Forum: Philosophy, Religion & Politics
Topic: THE VERY BIG QUESTION OF MORALITY
Replies: 110
Views: 105351

Even desks need cognitive interpretations. I think what you meant to say is that morals do not exist in any objective sense(as in there is no physical item which can be pointed to as an example of a "moral"). Yeah, my phrasing/example was maybe a bit careless. I was generally getting at the whole '...
by manlian
February 8th, 2006, 2:51 am
 
Forum: Philosophy, Religion & Politics
Topic: THE VERY BIG QUESTION OF MORALITY
Replies: 110
Views: 105351

I agree with much of what you're saying, it ties into my previous remark of morals facilitating social interaction and generally making societal relations work. As far as subjectivity goes, I don't see how morals can be rescued from subjectivity unless you insert some kind of overarching framework, ...
by manlian
February 7th, 2006, 10:02 am
 
Forum: Philosophy, Religion & Politics
Topic: THE VERY BIG QUESTION OF MORALITY
Replies: 110
Views: 105351

As far as morality being subjective, I would agree that it is. The whole subjectivity debate raises the old conundrum of morality only being objective if there exists a moral arbiter that transcends our own varied individual and cultural predilections for morality - a kind of 'universal yardstick' f...
by manlian
February 7th, 2006, 4:24 am
 
Forum: Philosophy, Religion & Politics
Topic: THE VERY BIG QUESTION OF MORALITY
Replies: 110
Views: 105351

lol, me too, but he actually does get that stuff from the Bible. I've always wanted to make a poster of Malachi 2:3 and stick it up on a church door on Sunday Morning. I can remember watching another movie with this quote: 2 Chronicles 21:18 And after all this the LORD smote him in his bowels with a...
by manlian
January 26th, 2006, 6:50 am
 
Forum: Philosophy, Religion & Politics
Topic: Should we have a female president?
Replies: 31
Views: 35836

Heh, I was just kidding.

Anyway, I wouldn't have anything against a female president, though I don't think that gender should be a factor in how you vote. I guess convention weighs heavily in how people vote though.
by manlian
January 26th, 2006, 4:30 am
 
Forum: Philosophy, Religion & Politics
Topic: Should we have a female president?
Replies: 31
Views: 35836

Make a God thread you bums! :lol:


Or face the consequences....

Malachi: 2:3 Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces

...And you will know my name is THE LORD. There's more where that came from!
by manlian
January 26th, 2006, 4:28 am
 
Forum: Philosophy, Religion & Politics
Topic: Should we have a female president?
Replies: 31
Views: 35836

Personally, it seems to me that there is room for an infinite number of possibilities. "God" and "No God" sound like two sides to the same coin to me. This is generally my thinking as well. Previously I used the "agnostic" label, but realized I'm simply an atheist in all but name, given the fact th...
by manlian
January 19th, 2006, 12:55 pm
 
Forum: Philosophy, Religion & Politics
Topic: No
Replies: 44
Views: 48614

Yeah, I'm familiar with the ontological argument, though as you can probably guess unconvinced by it. I didn't want to open the thread with sort of abstruse philosophical language, not that I'm saying that your post is abstruse, I just wanted to make the terminology accessible to everyone. Perhaps I...
by manlian
January 19th, 2006, 12:30 pm
 
Forum: Philosophy, Religion & Politics
Topic: The Burden of Proof
Replies: 20
Views: 22085

Well, you could say that morality is an evolutionary construct that developed to facilitate a species with complex social interactions. In my view, this kind of fits. Most morality and ethics can be seen in light of preserving the collective, with its constituents embarking upon mutually acceptable ...
by manlian
January 19th, 2006, 12:24 pm
 
Forum: Philosophy, Religion & Politics
Topic: THE VERY BIG QUESTION OF MORALITY
Replies: 110
Views: 105351

The Burden of Proof

In the question of God, where does the burden of proof lie? I'll give my opinion to start it off: I feel the burden of proof is upon believers. This is because you cannot "prove" a negative. How do you find evidence of non-existence? Find something that is "not-God?" Find something that is "not-the-...
by manlian
January 19th, 2006, 10:25 am
 
Forum: Philosophy, Religion & Politics
Topic: The Burden of Proof
Replies: 20
Views: 22085

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