"Trance-arousal" is also very good! posting.php?mode=reply&f=2&t=13966&sid=6cc727b91f2645e037c878abc386c2cf#

Rigsby--Great Post (12/07) Jacktag--I'm troubled by your use of the word "damage" here. Do you think all gay people or people with same-sex attractions are damaged? You've been with you say 15 different men--if it's so horrible, why do you keep at it? Ever seen Rocky Horror Picture Show? That's your...

Everyone has an agenda. Even if it's only to reinforce/restate their beliefs, right or wrong.

The perception is certainly out there that gay men are more "promiscuous" than the population at large. Has there been a solid scientific study? I haven't seen it. Certainly there are also reasons why that might be true--not being able to marry, until recently in most states. Also, maybe since gay r...

How 'bout a file that would make one dominant/a top for a specific time period or on hearing a trigger? There's some safety factor in knowing a change is only temporary--might make it more easily accepted.

Love to help you out with that ;) but unfortunately, I'm not in Jersey.

Maybe just be open to meeting a nice guy who cares about you?

Maybe you're turned on by the idea of totally losing control--becoming consumed with sexual thoughts & lust, but it usually doesn't happen that way. I guess maybe sex addicts are that way, but I think most people still have conscious control over what they are doing, even when aroused.

Sorry for my ignorance, but what's an "ABS"?

jersey, why "god help me"? what's wrong with that?! Knowing what you want is the first step toward enjoying it. Set yourself free. Don't take on the guilt the world is so willing to weigh you down with.

Hmmm, that's interesting. You know some people consider females to be the stronger sex! emasculate definition from google: make (a person, idea, or piece of legislation) weaker or less effective. I enjoy submissive feelings myself (obviously), and I guess feeling kind of weak or under another man's ...

subjerseyguy--by emasculation, you mean what? you feel less masculine? sex drive suppressed? I don't know why that would be, since there are definitely many gay guys that are both hyper-masculine & hyper-sexual. Maybe this particular file doesn't "fit" or just doesn't work for you. I don't think...

JohnDave--just be honest with yourself & no one is going to fault you. My advice would be maybe just don't think about it so much, just let whatever happens happen. You might just meet the love of your life, and he might be a man. You're already open to the possibility, obviously. :)

SubDad, you sound like an awesome guy--I predict you're going to make someone very happy! :D

Thanks for the mention, Glory.

I missed your reply to my earlier post--I just meant I wonder why you wouldn't maybe want to be bisexual--then you could have it both ways.

starting to think gay . . . just makes my dick jump out of my skin . . . was with a guy and was snuggling into him afterwards. that is something i have never felt comfortable with b4....... 1. no disrespect even hinted at--you're fine 2. ouch--that sounds painful! :) 3. that is an awesome feeling, ...

Why do you want to lose your attraction to men--has it been a problem for you?

JD, sometimes, for me, when it really hits me is when I've stopped thinking about it consciously, and forgotten what I was trying to achieve. And then it's like "wow, oh yeah, right". . .

I used audacity to lower the tone of my own voice & I liked the effect--sounded a little more commanding. It was a project I started & never finished.

Ever think that you are maybe, really, deep down, attracted to men but just afraid to let yourself feel that?

Chibicure, what's "right" is what's right for you. I think people are just expressing that you need to consider your wife's feelings in the process, i.e. put yourself in her shoes. Doesn't necessarily mean total disclosure. Doesn't mean sacrificing yourself to please her. Maybe go to couples counsel...

As you are young, I think you should seek out counseling--maybe just one or two sessions. We all have stray sexual thoughts from time to time (or even weird non-sexual thoughts). You are not your thoughts. Sometimes, the harder you try to put something out of your mind, the more it persists. I'd be ...

If there is a bias against CFS among gay guys, it is probably because society has a decidedly, sometimes violent, anti-gay bias, although it appears to be on the decline, thankfully. There are still parents that would try to force their child into aversion therapy, or even kick them out of the house...

Agree pretty much completely with the wisdom of Alien4420 & Rigsby. With the caveat that (in my opinion) if the conscious or especially the subconscious mind doesn't want to change, it may not be possible. There's a lot of anecdotal evidence that "reparative therapy" (what the fundies call a "CF...

Agree pretty much completely with the wisdom of Alien4420 & Rigsby. With the caveat that (in my opinion) if the conscious or especially the subconscious mind doesn't want to change, it may not be possible. There's a lot of anecdotal evidence that "reparative therapy" (what the fundies call a "CF...

Well, all hypnotic suggestions wear off if they are not reinforced, but if you're thinking about it & worrying about it, that would be a reinforcement. What are you getting out of the worrying? Maybe listening to "curse forced straight" or 'deprogram all" would help, IDK. Or just do some meditat...

How about providing some basic info about yourself---your profile seems to be completely blank.

hypnome, I suspect at least part of you is turned on by this, so a "cure" may be difficult.

Sometimes we all do things we regret. Alcohol is usually not beneficial to decision-making abilities. However, you don't have anything to be ashamed of--you tried something, you didn't like it, and that's that. Would probably be helpful to think about what you didn't like about the experience and wh...

Rigsby, depending on where you are (most places in the US, actually), you can still lose your job for being gay. My state, for example, has "at-will" employment, so they can fire you for any reason or no reason at all. If you are a member of a protected class, such as a minority or over-40, you can ...

Rigsby, I think it's partly political--to want to be seen & counted, to have people know that someone they know is gay. That gay people are not just "those people" as defined by the media--you know the stereotypes, I'm sure. I would agree with you, except that gay people have nowhere near equal ...

I don't think one listen is going to make you completely gay. It might take 2 or 3! ;)

Hi, Prez, do you want to "escape the urges"? If you know what you want, should be able to find someone to help you out with that. Maybe a female hypnotist can make you forget all about that, if that's what you want.

Good for you, Joe. Yeah, i myself have never understood the desire to become stupid.

Good for you, Perky, on both accounts! Maybe you should focus on building muscle, the weight could take care of itself. Work on becoming STRONG.

I don't think it would "have" to be older. Depends on how you think about it/how your mind interprets it.

You seem like fun. Too bad I'm so far away, maybe I could help you get "un"-confused! :D

Maybe the rapid heartbeat is because you're a bit excited by the prospect of being changed. It is pretty exciting. Once you listen 5-10 times, it'll get kind of boring & repetitive, you might even drift off to sleep. If it does, or doesn't work out, don't be ashamed of who you are, there's nothi...

haha, I would enjoy it :)

What do you consider "old". and where are you located? ;)

To some degree, i think it depends on how bad you want it to work. As well as repetition, finding a willing partner that you trust, . . .

You could try it yourself & find out. Seems as though you've been curious about this for a while . . .

Hiya, Davey, how's it going? :)

I think there is something to the idea that the desire has to take root & germinate in your mind. Maybe by "over-sampling", your conscious mind becomes too alerted to what you are trying to do. I've noticed similar effects, that when you stop listening to a file, it kind of creeps up in your dre...

Bet that felt great! :D

Avid, Where do you find these "gay chatrooms"? :)

Then again, if you did meet a girl, and she was all-vanilla and didn't respect your kinks, would you be happy? Might as well wade in & see what's out there!

Kudos to you guys for keeping up with it. I mean that only in a positive way.

Probably *best* NOT to think about it (cock) all the time. But it is *nice* to think about it some of the time!

"hard to not think about gay sex"--well, the great thing about that, is that you don't have to! (not think about gay sex)--you can think about it all you want!

"Therapy" is a great file, although I have only listened to it once (I think).

Jorans: I'm curious about why you want to change your apparent orientation. (It's OK if you don't want to say)