I've heard that it's best to let your mind wander while listening to files to induce a trance. However, I find it hard to not focus on the files; that's what's giving me the most trouble with hypnosis. Does it work to distract yourself by counting backwards, or conjuring up some daydream fantasy? I ...

I think the problem is I'm doing things out of order. When I first got into the idea of self-hypnosis I immediately went for curses (which of course have not worked yet); now I'm trying inductions and deepeners, but nothing seems to get me into deep trance. Any advice on what to start with? Thank you.