by redress32 » June 8th, 2009, 9:30 pm
I've tried using a Mind Machines Procyon AVS, as well as a Mind Alive David CES (Cranio-Electro Stimulation).
After trying for years, I had a horrible time learning how to get into a trance. After some use of the AVS, but more specifically the CES, I find I get much better results, particularly with the CES.
I could get into a better trance with the AVS, though found that I had a tendency to relax right into sleep.
A combination of good breathing technique and the CES, I can usually get into a trance, but it usually takes me about 20 minutes. After using the CES irregularly for a few months, though regularly practicing with the files, I can sometimes get into a trance without help. Most of the time I can get into a trance with the CES.
Both devices are spendy, and I think overpriced. But, I made a little progress the the AVS, and more progress with the CES. Using both at once is fun, but then you have a bundle of cords around your head.
You have to be very careful with either one,. The AVS is bad if you have any risk of epilepsy from strobing lights, and the CES has assorted and obvious warnings (eg: don't try it with a heart problem).
If I had neither, wanted to try one, and had to make a choice, I'd suggest - if you have a hard time getting into a trance, try the CES first. If you can get into a trance but want more visuals, try the AVS. With the CES, I find I can go down and stay down in trance for pretty much as long as I can stand it (but always in complete control).