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What was the question?

PostPosted: January 12th, 2013, 8:43 pm
by IAcurious
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PostPosted: January 13th, 2013, 12:06 am
by Endo
Wow. I've never heard of isochronic tones. This sounds interesting, and I have a question. Is the only thing they can do is help relax you, like binaurals are supposed to do?

PostPosted: January 13th, 2013, 5:44 am
by IAcurious
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PostPosted: January 13th, 2013, 6:21 am
by zapnosis
OK, I'm not sure what you would call the beats I use, monaural probably, but they aren't that different to isochronic beats in theory. I haven't heard the two used together, but...

Well, binaural beats are beats created by an interference pattern mixed in your brain. Isochronic beats are just on-off-on-off. So to get an interference pattern between different isochronic tones, you would have to hear the binaural "pulse" in the time between the on-off of the isocronic tones. One or the other is going to be redundant, surely?

Honestly never saw what the fuss was about with binaurals, pulsing tones may sound annoying to you but listening to 2 tones that are not quite the same is really annoying to me. Monaural are not the most effective, perhaps, but they are definitely the most versatile.

PostPosted: January 13th, 2013, 7:05 am
by IAcurious
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PostPosted: January 14th, 2013, 3:58 am
by zapnosis
Experimentation is definitely the best way to find out. Good luck with that.

Z

PostPosted: January 14th, 2013, 11:27 am
by Endo
What range of tones should I be using for hypnosis? I've looked and there are samples I can use that are labeled as alpha, beta, and theta. I've been using binaurals that start at 22hz then drop to 16?hz, and they seem to work. I'm not really sure on what frequency is best in general for what we do.

I've found a few samples, and some of them sound like they might be applicable to hypnosis. [url]http://iso-tones.com/index.php/tones/recreational[/url] What do you think?

PostPosted: January 14th, 2013, 8:48 pm
by IAcurious
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PostPosted: January 15th, 2013, 7:33 am
by zapnosis
Hi Endo,
Never mind the Greek, last I heard the 6hz-12hz range was where trance is. However, I never believed that brainwave manipulation was 100% effective and my files tend to be a bit domineering, so allowing for some resistance I used a 3hz pulse within a 1.5hz pulse. This works well with a single "sine wave" pulsing tone but would be more difficult with binaural or isochronic tones. I have had some very positive feedback on this, but for others it doesn't seem to have much effect. Possibly they would respond better to other frequencies/ types of beat or maybe they just don't respond well to brainwave stuff, I couldn't tell you which.

Hope this is useful
Z

PostPosted: January 15th, 2013, 2:57 pm
by Endo
Okay, thanks. I've found an 8 minute long sample of isos, and it seemed to be relaxing, so I'll play around with that for a while.