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How to make a curse that lasts

PostPosted: November 25th, 2015, 9:28 am
by catgirl
I wonder what the best suggestions for making a curse are? Is there a template for making suggestions that stay permanent, possibly even get worse the more a subject tries to resist? Feel free to post examples of scripts! [/img]

PostPosted: November 25th, 2015, 12:01 pm
by JackDrago
I learned curse writing by studying the script to Curse: Penis Growth and Curse Forced Gay. I don't think anyone has written a guide to it but the important thing about a curse is a focus on accepance, permanence, and non-removability.

About curses and blessings

PostPosted: November 25th, 2015, 1:32 pm
by Busenman
I for myself, I don't believe into curses. It has a negative touch and it is well known, that negatives aren't easy to accept , mostly even people restrict automatically. Whatever makes something permanently in your mind, is like as a curse. I try to use blessing instead of curse, if I want to makes something permanent, but at the end it is the same thing, only in a much more positive wording, which most people accept much more easily.

Hypnosis is never magic, and like always in life, if you can introduce a need for something in someones mind combined with positive feelings, in such a case you never need to use the word curse, or anything else like commands for to make people do things, you want Them to do. They simply do by themselves, because it feels good and because it is positive for them.

Our minds always does, what it believes is the best for us. it never ever understands negatives.

so, for to use the word curse again in the context of this thread, the best curse is one, where the word "curse" or any other Negatives are never used.

That is even true, if suggestions make people doing things, they normally never would do. People always do things because they think at least on a subliminal base, that is the best. Even the subconscious is more powerful than the conscious mind.

PostPosted: November 25th, 2015, 1:48 pm
by Marian
A "curse" is just a file with a self-enforcing positive feedback. Not more, not less.

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PostPosted: November 25th, 2015, 3:00 pm
by Busenman
That is the short form, absolutely right

PostPosted: November 26th, 2015, 3:10 am
by catgirl
No matter if curse or blessing- any examples for how to create an effective self-enforcing file?

PostPosted: November 26th, 2015, 7:17 am
by MN_FriendlyGuy
Catgirl, I'm repeating the answer that others have already given.

And with that done, here's an idea for writing hypnosis scripts that are effective... Avoid using jargon. Example: When a hypnotist says "go deeper and deeper", those words are meaningless (jargon) unless they're explained through examples, stories, or metaphors.

PostPosted: November 26th, 2015, 9:27 am
by wohermiston
To be sure, it isn't a curse simply because it says so! So many files here are, to my mind , just attempts at brainwashing through excessive repetition. That can have some effect, but it is not everlasting. Suggestions must match daily behaviour in some way to make them stick.
Tying suggestions with listening daily can keep the subject comming back. and that is what is meant by positive feedback. You get some result, you beleive the result is from listening, and you go back and listen again.
Erickson beleived that the suggestions needed to be tied to things you did in your normal conscious life, that would make those normal activities behave like triggers. Done well, the technique works. WOH

PostPosted: November 26th, 2015, 10:59 am
by catgirl
What would be an example for such normal activities?

PostPosted: November 26th, 2015, 2:09 pm
by wohermiston
here is what I use as a guide. it takes some reading, but if you are really interested, you will find it useful.
http://discreplay.typepad.com/hypnotic_psychotherapy/docs/extRef/Milton%20H%20Erickson%20-%20Hypnotherapy%20-%20An%20Exploratory%20Casebook.pdf

How you marry your file to your client will depend on what you are trying to accomplish. in diaper files I try to stick with things people experience normally, like the tingle to go. try and use that as a trigger to evoke a different response. you can also create habits that can also be used as triggers or modifiers later on. you really have to be creative. I was just marveling at how many diaper files there are here. no one file is perfect for everone. anyway, hope some of this is helpful.WOH

PostPosted: December 10th, 2015, 9:27 am
by catgirl
This is a helpful guide, thank you.

Re: How to make a curse that lasts

PostPosted: June 9th, 2016, 8:47 pm
by JakeJane
Get married, don't divorce.