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working with a new subject

PostPosted: July 13th, 2011, 12:52 pm
by trekkier
hey all,
Ive started working with a new sub, shes very willing, and ive put her under quite a few times, but she always seems to have trouble "focusing" on my voice (we're doing it via webcam). I was wondering if anybody had any suggestions?
Thanks!

PostPosted: July 14th, 2011, 12:41 am
by rgn
Just to be clear, I am not a hypnotist. But I trance a lot!

Out of curiosity. You stated you have put her under quite a few times. So does she go into trance and then lose focus and come out of trance? Or is she in trance and just loses focus and does not follow your suggestions? Does she have any ideas why she loses focus? Is it possible she was not 100% comfortable with how something was stated?

PostPosted: July 17th, 2011, 1:12 pm
by trekkier
Well i knows she's conferble with it, and she goes under, but sometimes if i give her a command to not recall that shes naked until i tell her to notice, she'll recall that command ect. Do you have any suggestions?

PostPosted: July 17th, 2011, 2:36 pm
by ocntrl
If I ask you not to think about a banana... what are you thinking about right now?

Right.

So telling a subject not to remember something makes them think about how to not remember something and by doing that they think about the thing they need to remember.

A subject deep enough in trance won't have a major issue with that conflict, but otherwise you may actually stress the thing you want them to forget.

So a better approach is to be more subtle about it. Listen to my Deep Trance induction (long or short version) without trancing and you will find a mirror image I use. It seems an approach like that has a better chance of success. Feel free to experiment with it.