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jblanze wrote:Does anyone else notice they shoot way bigger loads when they cum on their face after listening to CFG? Askin for a straight friend…
dudeee wrote:I have been listening to gay conversion files including CFG for 3 years now. I now only masturbate to gay porn, have had sex with multiple men, and haven't had sex with a woman since starting (largely because they are harder and more anxiety inducing to sleep with), but I don't know how to complete the process. I'm still bi, I struggle being attracted romantically to many men, but I desperately feel the need and desire to become fully gay and lose all attraction to women. Any suggestions?
One thing is I masturbate to the files while watching gay porn, I can't not listen to the files while masturbating, I tried, I get bored, and I wonder if that's preventing me from going deep enough. I am just starting to not skip the induction and I'm trying new inductions. I'm looking for a hypnotist to work on me directly. Also, maybe weed can help? I'll take any ideas. I want to be able to have a boyfriend and come out as gay and be another success story. I also wonder if I need to work through my internalized homophobia. It's really hard.
dudeee wrote:I have been listening to gay conversion files including CFG for 3 years now. I now only masturbate to gay porn, have had sex with multiple men, and haven't had sex with a woman since starting (largely because they are harder and more anxiety inducing to sleep with), but I don't know how to complete the process. I'm still bi, I struggle being attracted romantically to many men, but I desperately feel the need and desire to become fully gay and lose all attraction to women. Any suggestions?
One thing is I masturbate to the files while watching gay porn, I can't not listen to the files while masturbating, I tried, I get bored, and I wonder if that's preventing me from going deep enough. I am just starting to not skip the induction and I'm trying new inductions. I'm looking for a hypnotist to work on me directly. Also, maybe weed can help? I'll take any ideas. I want to be able to have a boyfriend and come out as gay and be another success story. I also wonder if I need to work through my internalized homophobia. It's really hard.
jr987 wrote:
I wonder what the psychological phenomenon of "wanting to be fully gay" is really about; I certainly empathize with that desire as, I presume, everyone does who listens to this particular file in earnest. Perhaps all of the pleasure that comes from fantasizing about sex with beautiful men--and occasionally having that in real life--could be seen as a reasonable payoff for all the time spent with the files. If you find that you are still attracted to women out in the world, maybe you could just enjoy and embrace that too. I'm trying to stay in touch with that myself. But I do want to repeat that I really do understand; feeling totally gay when you're home alone and then robustly bisexual out in the world can feel like a frustrating mismatch. Like sand in the gears.
kyroc wrote:Internalized biphobia combined with a perceived or subconcious need to overcorrect from an otherwise heteronormative lifestyle, if I had to guess. Bisexuality still unfortunately carries a lot of undeserved scorn tied to it, and I'd imagine for some people it's easier to lie to themselves (and prospective partners) that they're a gold star gay and that any past heterosexuality was just a phase. Not saying any of that's right or healthy, just that I've seen it in people from time to time.
throwitawaynowrp wrote:Haha, jumping the gun a little, don't you think?
I listened to it for the first time today. It was hot sitting down and listening, but I don't think I properly got into trance. We'll see how it goes tomorrow.
Haha, jumping the gun a little, don't you think?
I listened to it for the first time today. It was hot sitting down and listening, but I don't think I properly got into trance. We'll see how it goes tomorrow.
warren101 wrote:@throwitawaynowrp It took almost 7 months for me to become truly gay. For most of the guys on here it was at least a month and more like 2 months. Keep listening and it will happen.
midwestcuriousm wrote:So, after writing that fairly pessimistic post a few days ago I felt compelled to post a follow up... Something happened today that was unlike what I've felt before, but similar to what others have described has happened to them. I had to meet and chat a bit with a guy where I work, but who I don't normally have any reason to have any contact with and don't really know. Today though I felt a genuine strong attraction and desire as we were talking. I had a flash in my mind wondering what he looked like with his clothes off (which I'm betting is good lol), how his ass and cock would look, and yes attracted to his face too. I get the impression he could at least be bi, if not into guys outright, nothing flamboyant about it but definitely something there that makes me wonder. And I could totally see myself experimenting and fooling around with him. And yes I started getting hard too, but glad it wasn't apparent with my clothing lol - and stayed hard as I was walking away and for several minutes after as I kept thinking about him and what just happened. This definitely goes far beyond the kind of in person reactions I've had to any other guys previously. So maybe I was premature feeling pessimistic before and I really am continuing to evolve and progress even if the progress is slow
midwestcuriousm wrote:Haha - I'm not sure I consider myself to have fully joined all of you yet, since I still have not had the pleasure of being with another guy sexually, but the degree that I was turned on the other day when I wrote that last post did feel significant and like a kind of milestone. I've been thinking about it all weekend, and thinking of him, which more often than not arouses me again. Thoughts of sucking each others cocks, kissing, and spreading his ass apart to fill it with my cock are all thoughts that come into my mind when thinking of a few days ago. I'm really curious if I'll start having those kinds of realizations more often and about more and different guys - or maybe my intense reaction a few days ago was just a one off instance? Time will tell I guess, I I wish I could figure out a way to have more contact with him to feel him out whether something more might be possible!
midwestcuriousm wrote:An as yet aspiring top, yes... I know that goes against what most guys experiences have been, but that's just how I've felt ever since the idea of playing with a guy started to form in my mind. Not that I rule out trying to bottom if it feels right and in the right moment sometime... Actually the idea of having a partner I could switch up with regularly is fascinating and a turn on in its own way. I definitely feel and see myself in a more masculine rather than submissive way though, and the kind of guy I'm more likely to be attracted to is more of the twink type, maybe with a bit of a feminine streak as well.
warren101 wrote:@sigmund_floyd Judging from my experience with CFG you are gone. Now it just remains for you to hook up with a man. For me I love sucking a cock. I have actually read all of the postings on the forced gay thread. I only found one man that was not affected by the file and one that hated being gay. So enjoy your new role and that is also for all of the others that are now starting to change over to gay. Enjoy.
sigmund_floyd wrote:There was a deprogram file mentioned years ago here that I’d like to give a shot. I think the EMG file has knocked down some societal barriers that were more or less “programmed” into me since forever that I think is a healthy thing. But I’d like to kind of do a deep flush to figure out what is me and what is whatever has been installed over the past few years.
Glasnerven wrote:I've wondered something similar: why all the emphasis on how "dirty" or "filthy" or "nasty" with sexual things? Why the slurs and insults in shifting someone to be gay or a sissy or suck cock or whatever? Why can't we be encouraged to change or grow in sexual ways and have it be regarded as a *good* thing? What's bad about two people coming together to enjoy each other and share pleasure?
Maleko7 wrote:Perhaps the 'forced' and 'nasty' and other derogatory words are meant to act like 'don't think of an elephant'. Your mind may say 'that is dumb, of course gay sex is great, and I can prove it".
jr987 wrote:sigmund_floyd wrote:There was a deprogram file mentioned years ago here that I’d like to give a shot. I think the EMG file has knocked down some societal barriers that were more or less “programmed” into me since forever that I think is a healthy thing. But I’d like to kind of do a deep flush to figure out what is me and what is whatever has been installed over the past few years.
Hi @sigmund_floyd, I was intrigued by your idea of experimenting with a deprogram file after getting such "good" results from CFG. I wonder if you did this, and what the effect was. If you haven't done it yet, I'll say that if I were you I would *not* do that. In an attempt to learn what's really "me and what is whatever has been installed over the past few years," I think I would just step away from the file a little bit and let time do its thing. Not only am I a little suspicious of deprogram files (a piece of paper is never the same after its been drawn on, even if the drawing is erased), but I'd want to enjoy the effects of CFG as long as they hang around. You already know that some part of you is genuinely desiring men (or at least gayness, which seems to be slightly different than just loving guys); you wouldn't have listened to the file in the first place if that weren't true. My guess is that deprogramming would simply result in more confusion, whereas time may just help you mellow into a nice bisexual place where you can still enjoy cock, gay porn, etc., without worrying about whether it's really "you." Anyway, I'd love to hear if you tried it and what the effect was, if you did. (My $.02, anyway. I could be totally wrong...)
jr987 wrote:Glasnerven wrote:I've wondered something similar: why all the emphasis on how "dirty" or "filthy" or "nasty" with sexual things? Why the slurs and insults in shifting someone to be gay or a sissy or suck cock or whatever? Why can't we be encouraged to change or grow in sexual ways and have it be regarded as a *good* thing? What's bad about two people coming together to enjoy each other and share pleasure?
I'm glad to hear that at least one other guy feels the same way! I guess what we're talking about is a little unfair to ask of a site dedicated to BDSM, mind control, etc. I do get that some guys like to be called "faggot" and that sort of thing; I have liked that myself sometimes. I can appreciate how that gets under the skin in an erotic way, amplifying the sense of "deviance" from the norm. But I've also sometimes wondered whether words like "curse" and "forced" might be a bit dangerous. I don't want to suck cock because I've been forced to, and I don't want my unconscious to be thinking that that's why I'm doing it. I want to do it as an expression of my own will, informed by intense desire. I use this file (and others like it online) to amplify that, not humiliation. That's not my cup of tea, though no judgement towards anyone who likes that.
1. I’ve been listening to Curse Masturbation Penetration a lot. It’s supposed to make you feel like you have a cock in your mouth when you stroke with your right hand, one in your ass when you stroke with your left, and both mouth and ass when using two hands. Don’t get me wrong; it’s hot as fuck while listening, but it’s obviously just a fun experience that doesn’t actually “work.” It reframed Cursed Force Gay for me. The file didn’t make me gay. It’s not forcing me be gay. It’s really hot and fun because I already was very into it. It definitely inspires me to act more on my urges, but that’s just because I’m giving into them and being more accepting of them. I chose to. It’s no more real than the faint temporary feeling of having imaginary dicks tag teaming me. This is just me.
2. My wife has been losing her hotness a bit over the past couple years. I’m really picky physically. I haven’t mentioned it because I know she’s working hard not to, but age gets us all to some extent eventually. I went to a very impressive brestaurant yesterday. All of my desire for women came raging back, and I had some very fun thoughts running though my head. The in person nature of it was awakening. With Covid and life in general, I haven’t physically been around a lot of smoking hot girls lately, and porn is just not the same. You miss out on the reality of their sexiness. It’s still intoxicating to me.
One of my favorite hook ups. I’m doing a car cruise thing with a random guy. He had really thick dick, and I was going to town on it with my mouth. He said, “Are you gay?” I said I wasn’t as I came up for air. He laughed really hard, pushed my head back down, and said “I think you’re wrong about that. You work that dick like a hungry little faggot.” My goodness.
I don't want to suck cock because I've been forced to, and I don't want my unconscious to be thinking that that's why I'm doing it. I want to do it as an expression of my own will, informed by intense desire.
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