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jr987 wrote:say how interesting it is to me that so many of the people posting in this thread seem so bright, articulate, and self-aware. I've noticed this for a long time now while reading through all this
sigmund_floyd wrote:I think my internal struggle has been fairly obvious over my posts lately. I was really close to paying for a custom file to make me think my wife had a dick. Upon meditating on that a bit more deeply and having quite a few drinks and gummies, I spilled the beans to her. I told her about my love for cock, previous hook ups, etc. Turns out she is very into it.
I downloaded Grindr, and we have a date with a hung stud lined up. Wish us luck. Seems like boyfriend material. He’s so awesome, and I’m so happy
grover27 wrote:sigmund_floyd wrote:I think my internal struggle has been fairly obvious over my posts lately. I was really close to paying for a custom file to make me think my wife had a dick. Upon meditating on that a bit more deeply and having quite a few drinks and gummies, I spilled the beans to her. I told her about my love for cock, previous hook ups, etc. Turns out she is very into it.
I downloaded Grindr, and we have a date with a hung stud lined up. Wish us luck. Seems like boyfriend material. He’s so awesome, and I’m so happy
You told your wife that you have been cheating on her to suck off random guys and instead of throwing your ass on the street she said she is very into it and you are going to have a MMF threesome?? How does that happen?
sigmund_floyd wrote:I think my internal struggle has been fairly obvious over my posts lately. I was really close to paying for a custom file to make me think my wife had a dick. Upon meditating on that a bit more deeply and having quite a few drinks and gummies, I spilled the beans to her. I told her about my love for cock, previous hook ups, etc. Turns out she is very into it.
I downloaded Grindr, and we have a date with a hung stud lined up. Wish us luck. Seems like boyfriend material. He’s so awesome, and I’m so happy
jr987 wrote:sigmund_floyd wrote:I think my internal struggle has been fairly obvious over my posts lately. I was really close to paying for a custom file to make me think my wife had a dick. Upon meditating on that a bit more deeply and having quite a few drinks and gummies, I spilled the beans to her. I told her about my love for cock, previous hook ups, etc. Turns out she is very into it.
I downloaded Grindr, and we have a date with a hung stud lined up. Wish us luck. Seems like boyfriend material. He’s so awesome, and I’m so happy
This is really wonderful news. I've said in previous posts that my wife knows all about my love for cock (and at least a little of my personal gay history, though certainly not all of it) and we talk about it regularly during sex, but we aren't yet at the point where she'd be willing for us to set up a date (I don't think). I am taking that very slowly, and not sure we will ever get there. I've been focusing lately on sharing with her how much I'd like to watch her with a male partner, and she is definitely into the fantasy. The reality? Remains to be seen.
Anyway, what I really wanted to say is please please please don't fail to let us know how the date goes! Really looking forward to hearing ALL about it...
We both want the D, and we're both very turned on by the other wanting the D.
sigmund_floyd wrote:Best of luck to you two as well in your journey as well. You've gotten through what I think is the scariest hurdle for sure.
midwestcuriousm wrote:@luluby - Welcome and definitely curious to know more how you've come to the decision you'd like to explore this and see what happens. So have you had any inklings in the past that you were maybe bi-curious or interested in guys, or any experiences experimenting, or are you coming from a place of always considering yourself 100% straight up to this point? I had always considered myself to be totally straight, until I had a realization one day that I was turned on by trans, and then also at the thought of guys too. So in my case something happened to change my thinking or plant the seed of the idea first, and then I was curious to explore further to see how real it really was - or could be. Or are you looking at it simply as an experiment and personal challenge to see what happens?
Since you are married it's definitely good you're going to discuss this with her first before proceeding, and it will be interesting to hear her reaction. Even if you don't believe anything will change with yourself, I think the fact that you want to explore this suggests it's not impossible that things may happen that would impact your relationship. If it's not too personal, is there anything about your relationship that might be a contributing factor that has led you to this point?
If things work out that you decide to proceed with this it will be interesting to hear what your experience is and how it may progress. And if you don't end up exploring this then that's OK too.
dkboyfru wrote:I’ve been considering trying this file, but I do really enjoy women, they’re incredibly sexy (although it is difficult to get women to sleep with me despite being quite conventionally handsome). I’m not sure if I want to stop being attracted to gorgeous faces and perky breasts and wet pussies, but then again, it seems as though if I try CFG and it works, it’ll make me happy to be gay and not feel as though I’ve really lost anything. Should I try it?
nazihypnosis wrote:Sometime back I was not able to comment on this thread so I created a new post but however nobody replied to it. I am currently taking therapy regarding my sexual orientation. I came out as gay to my therapist and I am figuring out what to do about my wife and baby. Very complicated
I am also finding men more and more hot and can’t wait to get back to sucking cocks and finally take one in my ass. I have sucked many cocks in the past but was in denial and saying to myself this is the last time.
luluby wrote:
I would say my interest in this file has less to do with bisexual or gay tendencies, and more to do with:
1. My interest in the possibilities of how much one's mind can alter our (supposedly) innate tendencies, and how effective hypnosis could be as a tool
2. I've never had any luck with any sort of hypnosis (not that I've tried extensively however), and this file apparently has had a lot of success, so I think its a good candidate to test its effects.
3. The idea of having my mind transformed or warped, especially against my base desires, carries an erotic element to it that's hard to resist (it doesn't have to be centered around being gay though)
4. There are very big claims being made with regard to this file, which are difficult to believe, but I have an open mind and I'm very curious to see what it could be to actually experience these changes.
5. Those who have gone through these changes seem to be very happy about it. If the testimonials were, "I'm gay now and miserable, " then I'd avoid it. However it seems almost always the case that those who have gone through these changes have tapped into a dimension of happiness and pleasure that has improved their lives. It seems foolish to want to avoid that possibility.
I can say that I'm not attracted to men at all, though I don't necessarily believe that it's impossible to be. My sexuality is mostly rooted in submissive tendencies, so I can imagine that to be the possible gateway from going to wanting women to wanting men. As it stands however, I can never look at a man and feel any sense of attraction toward him.
I remain skeptical that my attraction toward women could go away, though understand that that's a possibility (or perhaps that it greatly diminishes). Nonetheless, I don't particularly worry about it, as it would not impact my life in negative ways, I believe. My ego isn't tied up in what I'm attracted to and I easily accept whatever it is that I'm feeling. The biggest risk us, of course, things between my wife and I, but we have a fairly open and relaxed attitude towards our sexual interests, so it's really just a matter of being open and honest about my intentions, feelings and actions.
five_throws wrote:Since you're interested in trying a range of files along these lines, I would mention that there's two files: Jack Drago - Shattered Heterosexuality and Heterosexuality Eraser that some also find quite effective or at least make a lot of sense to some people.
I think Shattered is supposed to be the more intro level one. Or alternatively, I think it was designed as the series 1) Failing to resist (not explicitly any gay content), 2) Shattered, and 3) Eraser
I don't think I experienced permanent effects from those, but the suggestions made more sense to me than CFG at least, and a lot more sense to me than CSG, but I think different people are different.
jr987 wrote:five_throws wrote:Since you're interested in trying a range of files along these lines, I would mention that there's two files: Jack Drago - Shattered Heterosexuality and Heterosexuality Eraser that some also find quite effective or at least make a lot of sense to some people.
I think Shattered is supposed to be the more intro level one. Or alternatively, I think it was designed as the series 1) Failing to resist (not explicitly any gay content), 2) Shattered, and 3) Eraser
I don't think I experienced permanent effects from those, but the suggestions made more sense to me than CFG at least, and a lot more sense to me than CSG, but I think different people are different.
I have a question for you; sounds like you have experience with a variety of these files: do you even experience negative effects from this stuff? I had a particuarly intense session with CFG a few months back that put me into a very unpleasant psychological state for about 24 hours. It came in the form as a kind of terror -- I kept hearing words like "warped," "twisted," "destroyed," in my mind and I think it freaked me out. I have commented on this board in the past that I prefer more positive, more gentle gay hypnosis, but that's me. It's not that I am not interested in "destroying" my heterosexuality. Nothing would make me happier. But I feel uneasy about introducing words like "shatter" into the darkest corners of my psyche. Wonder if you have thoughts about that...!
jr987 wrote:luluby wrote:
I would say my interest in this file has less to do with bisexual or gay tendencies, and more to do with:
1. My interest in the possibilities of how much one's mind can alter our (supposedly) innate tendencies, and how effective hypnosis could be as a tool
2. I've never had any luck with any sort of hypnosis (not that I've tried extensively however), and this file apparently has had a lot of success, so I think its a good candidate to test its effects.
3. The idea of having my mind transformed or warped, especially against my base desires, carries an erotic element to it that's hard to resist (it doesn't have to be centered around being gay though)
4. There are very big claims being made with regard to this file, which are difficult to believe, but I have an open mind and I'm very curious to see what it could be to actually experience these changes.
5. Those who have gone through these changes seem to be very happy about it. If the testimonials were, "I'm gay now and miserable, " then I'd avoid it. However it seems almost always the case that those who have gone through these changes have tapped into a dimension of happiness and pleasure that has improved their lives. It seems foolish to want to avoid that possibility.
I can say that I'm not attracted to men at all, though I don't necessarily believe that it's impossible to be. My sexuality is mostly rooted in submissive tendencies, so I can imagine that to be the possible gateway from going to wanting women to wanting men. As it stands however, I can never look at a man and feel any sense of attraction toward him.
I remain skeptical that my attraction toward women could go away, though understand that that's a possibility (or perhaps that it greatly diminishes). Nonetheless, I don't particularly worry about it, as it would not impact my life in negative ways, I believe. My ego isn't tied up in what I'm attracted to and I easily accept whatever it is that I'm feeling. The biggest risk us, of course, things between my wife and I, but we have a fairly open and relaxed attitude towards our sexual interests, so it's really just a matter of being open and honest about my intentions, feelings and actions.
This is one of the more curious posts I've seen on this board, at least in a while. Most of us here, I *think*, have been pretty drawn to the idea of being gay, but have been frustrated by continuing heterosexual tendencies. I've thought a lot about why this is. Why would anyone want to be gay and try to fight heterosexual tendencies?? That makes no sense, from a certain perspective. For me, it has been the persistent dissonance between being attracted to women IRL but being completely in the grip of homosexual fantasy during masturbation, and even during sex. And also some really lovely memories of sex with guys when I was younger. For as long as I can remember, I cannot reach orgasm without thinking about cocks, being fucked, etc., even as I've had girlfriends, two wives, and so on. I guess a person in this situation could want to eliminate the homosexual part and be less dissonant in a heterosexual direction, but the desire to embrace homosexuality in the bedroom is too great. So I have wanted, for a long time, to simply eliminate the hetero part. I've met with modest success thus far. In any case, your thing is totally different. I wonder whether a person with no desire to be homosexual could get an effect from this, and will be very curious to follow your updates as you go!
For what it's worth, I think I'm at a point in my life where a lot of hangups that many guys have over this sort of thing aren't an issue for me any longer. I also don't have a notion of having one orientation over the other as being a bad thing. My view is that whichever brings you greater satisfaction is the apparent better one. It's sort of like, if you have a favorite food, but a friend convinces you to try something new, and this new thing now becomes your favorite food, you most likely would feel happy that you've found something you like even more. I view this similarly to that.
midwestcuriousm wrote:@luluby - Was just curious how it's been going for you, and was curious what your thoughts are on the CFG file and any of the others if you're checked any others out? I wouldn't expect you to be feeling any effects per se at this point, so not really looking for that, just more what you think of the contents and what they have to say. At the last mention you said you had listened a couple times so also wondered if you've been making a conscious effort to listen on any kind of routine like daily or anything like that? Not necessarily due to being forced to or anything, more just if you're continuing to dabble for the sake of curiosity and such.
luluby wrote:I've been listening off and on, and not very consistently. Something I do a lot is listen as I go to sleep. I wouldn't say I have a strong opinion on it yet, but I'm usually thinking that I'm not sure how this can make me gay. But I will say that, weirdly, listening recently stopped feeling like a chore and more as something I somewhat enjoy. I've reached a point where I seem to want to listen to it more and more. I'm not sure why exactly.
I also haven't listened to the other files yet. No particular reason, I just haven't prioritized it, but I surely will at some point.
stephen292 wrote:luluby wrote:I've been listening off and on, and not very consistently. Something I do a lot is listen as I go to sleep. I wouldn't say I have a strong opinion on it yet, but I'm usually thinking that I'm not sure how this can make me gay. But I will say that, weirdly, listening recently stopped feeling like a chore and more as something I somewhat enjoy. I've reached a point where I seem to want to listen to it more and more. I'm not sure why exactly.
I also haven't listened to the other files yet. No particular reason, I just haven't prioritized it, but I surely will at some point.
There are suggestions in the file about finding the it addictive and having to listen again so it sounds like the file has implanted that into you which is much easier then changing your sexuality. Then the more you listen the more likely it is the file will make you gay. If you do decide to listen to another file I would recommend Curse Stroke Gay. Curse Forced Gay made me lose interest in women and gained some interest in men but not enough to be gay. I'd tried to listen to it before but never really got into it and never made it to the end. After @midwestcuriousm recommended it to you I listened to the file all the way through and it had a much more powerful affect on me the CFG did. When I got off the train on my way to work I just kept noticing men and checking them out. Then I saw a man who was out running and was instantly drawn to his bulge. Then the next day I happened to bump into someone I used to work at the train station. As we were talking I suddenly remembered someone had told me he was gay and I just couldn't stop thinking of sucking him off. It is a long file so only been able to listen once but I've had urges to listen again.
luluby wrote:Why do you think that the Curse Forced Gay file seems more popular? Well, I'm assuming it is based on this thread.
luluby wrote:I got a chance to listen to Curse Stroke Gay. And wow, there's something... seductive about it that I can't quite describe. I'm not saying I'm feeling attracted to or turned on by men, but something about that file creates a certain kind of appeal that I can't exactly explain or understand.
luluby wrote:I got a chance to listen to Curse Stroke Gay. And wow, there's something... seductive about it that I can't quite describe. I'm not saying I'm feeling attracted to or turned on by men, but something about that file creates a certain kind of appeal that I can't exactly explain or understand.
zxboy wrote:luluby wrote:I got a chance to listen to Curse Stroke Gay. And wow, there's something... seductive about it that I can't quite describe. I'm not saying I'm feeling attracted to or turned on by men, but something about that file creates a certain kind of appeal that I can't exactly explain or understand.
This is how I felt when I first started with the file and I’m now out and trying to find mr right
zxboy wrote:luluby wrote:I got a chance to listen to Curse Stroke Gay. And wow, there's something... seductive about it that I can't quite describe. I'm not saying I'm feeling attracted to or turned on by men, but something about that file creates a certain kind of appeal that I can't exactly explain or understand.
This is how I felt when I first started with the file and I’m now out and trying to find mr right
jr987 wrote:I'd just like to go meta for a moment (so to speak) and say how interesting it is to me that so many of the people posting in this thread seem so bright, articulate, and self-aware. I've noticed this for a long time now while reading through all this, and I'm constantly reminded that this isn't necessarily what I would have expected. Why is that? I don't know. Listening to hypnosis to try to "warp" your sexuality would almost certainly strike most people as a strange (and probably unsavory) activity, so I might have thought that this whole arena would attract some very strange and twisted type people. And, in fact, perhaps it does--maybe even myself included--but if so, they are strange and twisted type people who express themselves very thoughtfully and clearly. I guess what I kind of wanted to say is that I really appreciate you guys; I sense kindred spirits here, which is not something to ignore. Thank you.
luluby wrote:zxboy wrote:luluby wrote:I got a chance to listen to Curse Stroke Gay. And wow, there's something... seductive about it that I can't quite describe. I'm not saying I'm feeling attracted to or turned on by men, but something about that file creates a certain kind of appeal that I can't exactly explain or understand.
This is how I felt when I first started with the file and I’m now out and trying to find mr right
Was it Curse Stroke Gay that did it for you? Care to share more about how things progressed for you? It could be via PM too if you prefer that.
luluby wrote: Was it Curse Stroke Gay that did it for you? Care to share more about how things progressed for you? It could be via PM too if you prefer that.
jr987 wrote:luluby wrote: Was it Curse Stroke Gay that did it for you? Care to share more about how things progressed for you? It could be via PM too if you prefer that.
I'm sure that this is a discussion we'd all love to hear, if you guys are willing to have it out in the open here.
zxboy wrote:[
I started when a friend told me about forced curse gay. I didn’t it was real but he convinced me to try it.
stephen292 wrote:zxboy wrote:[
I started when a friend told me about forced curse gay. I didn’t it was real but he convinced me to try it.
Why did your friend want you to listen to forced curse gay? Had your friend listened?
stephen292 wrote:Ok. Does he know the file worked on you?
moo4 wrote:It's been months since I've last listened but I'm inexplicably finding this file irresistible again. I've just been feeling more femme lately and all of a sudden I'm falling hard for men's bodies. I had to imagine a man breeding me doggy style to be able to cum for my gf this morning, and I'm still left craving the real thing. Just wanted to pipe in and remind people that you'll never truly be free of this files grasp, lol what do I do now?
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