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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby davidsub1 » September 22nd, 2024, 6:31 am

Thank you . I will trtvthis evening. Verygnawty you can masturbate once standing using one finger to masturbate. Enjoy
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 22nd, 2024, 7:06 am

Sooo horny. Trying to masturbate with one finger didn't do much. Come on. Soo horny. Can I masturbate?
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 22nd, 2024, 7:13 am

Guys I'm horny I have to maSturbate now.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 22nd, 2024, 7:13 am

guys I'm horny can I mastusbate now.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 22nd, 2024, 7:14 am

guys I'm horny can I masturbate now.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 22nd, 2024, 7:15 am

Gys I' horny I need to masturbate.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby brownbobby » September 22nd, 2024, 12:58 pm

davidsub1 wrote:A little tearful to have fallen so low. Why is a diaper so prevalent here to reduce a man to be so base


Because diapers are for people who can't control themselves anymore. And you can't control yourself either, now can you? I think you're now realizing just what you've done to yourself...all because it felt so good to not be in control.

I'd recommend embracing it. You obviously must love it if your subconscious wants you to be this way...so enjoy the ride! Humiliation and all.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby davidsub1 » September 22nd, 2024, 7:42 pm

To achromatic rainbow. So that didn’t go well. Edging lasted about 4 minutes so was ready to cum but held off to ruin with just a poor dribble and not sure orgasm even occurred. 3 weeks is a long time again
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 22nd, 2024, 10:27 pm

HOrny can I maturae?
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby davidsub1 » September 22nd, 2024, 11:49 pm

I understand I cannot request to masturbate just because I am horny. I need to be humiliated instead.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby davidsub1 » September 22nd, 2024, 11:59 pm

I Am learning quickly from this thread I need to accustom myself to humiliation. Not that I can expect straight forward permission to masturbate. I chose this and have to get used to it. I came in a diaper and had a ruined orgasm with no permission toncum 3 weeks afterwards. I have lost control which I understand is the manifest of the diaper to know I have no control
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 23rd, 2024, 12:37 am

3 weeks is such a long time. I think I'll let you masturbate next time, but with four fingers. I mean, you did only let me use one finger. Actually, 3 weeks is a superlong time depending on how often you are horny, so I might be more generous. I know with my horniness, for some reason if I'm horny long enough it starts to seem to take a long time before the horniness will end.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 23rd, 2024, 7:33 am

Can I masturbate?
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 23rd, 2024, 7:37 am

Guys, can I masturbate?
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby brownbobby » September 23rd, 2024, 8:09 am

DavidSub wrote:I came in a diaper and had a ruined orgasm with no permission toncum 3 weeks afterwards. I have lost control which I understand is the manifest of the diaper to know I have no control


Exactly. You're starting to get it. And I think I can help drive it home with this: You have my permission to masturbate in one of the two ways - your choice:

- If you can wait all three weeks, you may masturbate once any way you want, to anything you want, for as long as you want. But if you can't wait...
- You may masturbate once any time before then, but only when wearing a diaper, and your hands aren't allowed to be inside the diaper.

Can you show us all how good you are at controlling yourself? Or are you going to prove to yourself how little control you have?
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 23rd, 2024, 8:31 am

Can I masturbate?
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 23rd, 2024, 8:33 am

Brownbobby, are you there? Can I masturbate?
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 23rd, 2024, 10:10 am

Can I masturbate?
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby davidsub1 » September 23rd, 2024, 10:58 am

Brown Bobby. Yea you are right. Why you said before is really sinking in. I think I do need to find control and realize the control and humiliation need to be respected.
And will try and wait 3 weeks. I have given in. EMG curse is powerful so much more than I expected. Limp and never get erections only when I am responding here. I will seek your permission in 3 weeks and no one else
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 23rd, 2024, 12:35 pm

Can I masturbae?
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 23rd, 2024, 12:36 pm

Can I masturbate?
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby davidsub1 » September 23rd, 2024, 12:45 pm

Verygnawty. Of course you may. I hope you enjoy having a hard penis and everything that comes with that. I have to wait 3 weeks now as don’t think I could even cum wearing a diaper and rub through it
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 23rd, 2024, 1:40 pm

Thanks. I got lucky. I actually forgot that I was under chastity from previous hypnosis, and my Mistress wasn't available to give me permission so I would be able to masturbate. But, through sheer timing of effects, my automatic masturbation came in. I suppose it temporarily overrode my needing my Mistress's permission, and I started walking to the bathroom. I was able to do some stuff before I started masturbating automatically. Then, I think my automatic masturbation started doing what it was supposed to do. I think the old thing it was doing wasn't the intended effect. Rather than masturbating at one speed that can't be changed, I eventually starting masturbating like I normally would. I think I figured that the automatic masturbation fixed itself. Then, I stopped masturbating automatically, or something. It seems that when my automatic masturbation stuff fixed itself, it didn't continue the masturbation started from when the old thing had started. So, the automatic masturbation fixed itself but it only continued for awhile and not until the completion of masturbating. Once it stopped, it didn't take long until I figured out I could masturbate on my own.

I don't even remember the last time I was able to masturbate on my own. Between only masturbating for a little while and waiting to become horny again, chastity, being bound by one of my Mistresses, and having to deal with a bunch of real life issues, it seems that the perfect time to masturbate didn't come around often and when it did it was usually ruined by real world issues. Lately, it was the old effect that wasn't working as it was supposed to that was often overriding multiple effects, causing me to masturbate automatically at a certain speed. So, I got all kinds of "cheat" from that because whether or not I would have been able to masturbate at all often depends on other hypnotic effects or whether I have to have permission. Now that my automatic masturbation seems like it fixed itself, I'm not sure if I can rely on it cheating by overriding other effects. In the past, if it wasn't working my body would move and then just move back, and I would never get to the point of starting masturbating or I wouldn't finish masturbating if I had started. Now that my automatic masturbation should do what it is supposed to do, I guess it will either override all the other effects now or override no other effects. I guess I'll find out if I happen to remember whether any other effects are in that would prevent me from physically masturbating. I could try to think about it, but I don't even remember to think about those kinds of things once the automatic masturbation starts. My body just starts moving. Often the movement is some weird orientation, like moving somewhat diagonally rather than something obvious like just pushing the chair back and standing up and walking to the best spot to masturbate. I'll start moving automatically and I'll think for a second and I'll think that it must be the automatic masturbation hypnosis.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 23rd, 2024, 1:46 pm

Hard can I masturbate?
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 23rd, 2024, 1:47 pm

Hard ccan I maturbate?
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby davidsub1 » September 23rd, 2024, 3:32 pm

Sounds like you have a lot going on especially with mistress having you work so hard. I hope it works out OK
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 24th, 2024, 12:38 am

Mistress is very concerned about safety. Usually, we just talk. It's no so much about her having me do things. Well, sometimes she does stuff to me. But a lot of time she disagrees about how to do things and we keep talking until we can come to an agreement (which is almost always worse than my ideas, but sometimes we come up with enough ideas that I think of better ideas.) I mean, sometimes I can't prevent her from installing triggers or effects in me. I had an old hypnosis that wasn't working properly, and effects weren't coming in correctly at the correct times or in the right ways. Two of these weird effects caused me to do things which gave Mistress ridiculous powers over me. She dropped at least one rule and her powers enforce it, although I can override her powers if something is important.

Mistress's new powers happen so fast, the only way to not be affected is to recognize how they work and just avoid whatever would lead to her powers affecting me. She can also use her powers to gain more powers. But, I usually try to stick to fun stuff or sometimes hypnosis. So, we don't talk much about powers unless she mentions it. I mean, she did gain her biggest new powers through a sheer coincidence from effects that weren't happening as intended.

It actually wasn't the best thing when the effects combined and I ended up doing things that got Mistress her new powers. At the time I wasn't as submissive, so her having big powers very fast was not something I was fully prepared to handle at the time, especially once I started thinking about how she got her powers because of a coincidence from effects that weren't even supposed to be part of a hypnosis that apparently wasn't doing what it was designed to do. For some reason I seem to have an issue with quite a few hypnotic attempts not working for a long time, and when something does happen it seems not all the effects work correctly right away.

Sometimes I do think about removing my Mistress's new powers. But, at times it can be daunting. She seems to like power a whole lot. So, at the times when she convinces me agree to do something that gives her power, it isn't uncommon that there is at least one aspect of the new power that I can't change at all. I think for a lot of her hypnosis stuff only she can trigger me, and I think there might be some of her hypnosis effects that I can't change at all. She seems to like having at least one aspect where she is the only one who has the ability to make a decision on what to do about something or to decide to change something. I mean, it is exciting. But, the more stuff she can do, the harder it is to figure out how to change all of that stuff.

It's hard to predict what my Mistress will do. She will try to control me so often. That's the part I disagree about most often. Then when she wants a new power or we agree on some hypnosis, I will totally expect her to want complete control but suddenly she will be generous and want something where she doesn't control every aspect of it, or she will even let me have my own trigger.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 24th, 2024, 7:19 am

Guys, can I masturbate in one day?
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 24th, 2024, 11:58 am

Gyys, can I masturbate?
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 24th, 2024, 12:01 pm

Can I masturbate pleeeeeese
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 24th, 2024, 12:02 pm

Can I pleeeaes masturbaaate.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 24th, 2024, 12:03 pm

Guys can i [leeeeese masturbate.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 24th, 2024, 12:04 pm

Pleeease let me masturbte.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby davidsub1 » September 24th, 2024, 12:13 pm

Verygnawty. Intrigued by your situation. How did you end up wanting to masturbate so often. Is it the trigger or curse causing it
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 24th, 2024, 6:29 pm

davidsub1 wrote:Verygnawty. Intrigued by your situation. How did you end up wanting to masturbate so often. Is it the trigger or curse causing it


It seems to be some other effect and not just from my old hypnosis. My old hypnosis makes me horny although I think it isn't working perfectly, the timing of the horniness doesn't always seem to come in at the right time. Also, the horniness also doesn't happen sometimes. A couple of days ago I was lying down for awhile, and then when I actually thought about it, it may have been three or four hours. My old hypnosis is supposed to make me horny exactly one hour after I finish masturbating and there is supposed to be no way to end the horniness unless I masturbate again (but it is supposed to come back an hour later). But, I don't think my old hypnosis is supposed to be making me desperate like I have been at times.

My old hypnosis just makes me horny, a lot. When it is working somewhat like it is supposed to, I just sort of put up with the horniness unless I want the horniness to end (masturbation is the only way to abate the horniness). But, since I'm not a big fan of masturbating often, sometimes I just do stuff and I am horny most of the time, although the horniness does sometimes go in and out (it's not supposed to be doing that, either).

It's hard to say what has been making me more desperate, lately. Hypnosis often takes a long time before it starts doing anything for me. It also has a tendency to not work perfectly for awhile. So, sometimes I get weird effects that aren't the intended effect.

I can tell you why I've been horny so often the last couple of days. I've had a tendency to not finish masturbating, so I haven't been abating the horniness for the hour that my old hypnosis allowed. I also came up with some files. It is text that I do what I call a reading. I don't know if I can trance, but if there is text that has certain wording I can do what I call a "reading" if the conditions are such that reading the text would create effects. However, I usually do this with file descriptions or part of file descriptions or text that I write myself.

The other reason I've been horny so often is that I did multiple different hypnosis so some of my clothes will act like a chastity device. Unlike a lot of my other hypnosis that takes years before it starts doing much, at least one of these effects seem to have taken hold already. It sort of makes it to where my arms will stop after a very short period of time. But, genius me might have designed it to where I have to have my Mistress's permission before I can remove the item that the hypnosis was designed for. Since my Mistress works a lot and sleeps through a good portion of the night, as long as my arms keep stopping on their own, I have no way to masturbate unless I try to masturbate through my clothes. But, I'm not a big fan of doing that. I used to do that quite often.

I've been horny most of the day. If my old hypnosis was working as designed, it would have been all day. I decided not to ask for my Mistress's permission to remove any of my clothes that act as makeshift chastity devices from some of my hypnosis. She also doesn't seem to be online, so I'll be horny until I contact her unless I masturbate through my clothes.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 24th, 2024, 6:51 pm

davidsub1 wrote:Verygnawty. Intrigued by your situation. How did you end up wanting to masturbate so often. Is it the trigger or curse causing it


I don't really consider my hypnosis to be a curse. Technically, it might be. I think it is most of the effects from an old file that used to be on this website. I think the file might have been a curse. I'm not sure if the curse was supposed to be removable or not. I don't think the file is on the website, anymore. But, if you are interested, I can write you a text and you can see if someone can make you a file. However, you should know that there may be situations where you might be horny longer than you intended. I've been horny quite a bit this week for one reason or another.

Basically, you would become horny starting at a certain time, or whatever. It is actually the starting time that I'm not sure of the details. But, the overall gist of the file is that you would become horny exactly one hour after you finish masturbating, and the horniness would remain until you masturbate again. But, the original file was meant to be a curse so it was basically a permanent thing although the horniness itself abates for an hour at a time and only after you masturbate. I'm not sure if the original file had any removal conditions or not.

When I originally did the hypnosis a long time ago, the idea is I would just masturbate after fifteen minutes and the horniness wouldn't come back for an hour. But because you sometimes have to deal with real life stuff, it isn't always that simple. Now that I did hypnosis to turn some of my clothes to have a chastity element, masturbating whenever I want is happening way less. But, the worst thing is when life just throws obstacles at you multiple times per day and you don't even get a chance to masturbate. That happened to me a few days ago. I had to deal with a bunch of real life stuff, and I got a bit worn out. So, I wasn't prepared to masturbate properly. So, I wasn't in a good position to reduce my horniness since only masturbating can cause it to go away, although sometimes it does go in and out. If I focus on something for long enough, sometimes the horniness does go away for awhile. But, when you are already horny, getting to the point of doing something for a long time isn't easy a lot of the times.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 25th, 2024, 5:48 am

For the second night in a row I decided not to ask my Mistress for permission. I went to bed but I got up earlier. I've been horny most of the time. I did do an automatic permission for my chastity stuff that I did with hypnosis, although I don't remember exactly how it works. I was able to test it. When the automatic permission comes in, I don't actually need to ask my Mistress for permission about the chastity stuff. But, the hypnosis that I did only does a certain number of automatic permissions per day and they are at certain times of the day. So, I can't just wait a few minutes.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 25th, 2024, 5:50 am

Can I msturbate?
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 25th, 2024, 5:52 am

Can I msturbate?
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby davidsub1 » September 25th, 2024, 10:29 am

I wouldn’t mind seeing the text. Not that I will use as I am under 3 week lockdown before I can even consider masturbating. Just trying to understand what you are experiencing.My sub conscious curse is being very powerful and now making me shudder and convulse if I even think about wanting to masturbate.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby davidsub1 » September 25th, 2024, 3:37 pm

3rd day of a 3 week condition before I can masturbate set by a very thoughtful forum member who clearly understands what I need to consider in my journey. Really connecting with the fact this is pretty much chastity curse as I have no way to play with myself and have promised not to ask anyone else for permission. Even if it was given I would be fooling myself in accepting. As I need to understand what this existence and experience is truly about. Anyway the curse is gripping more as even thinking of touching is creating physical reaction. Sub conscious is exerting real power I never thought possible
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 26th, 2024, 12:33 am

davidsub1 wrote:I wouldn’t mind seeing the text.


Okay. But, if you did create a file, the effects might actually compound in some way with hypnosis you seem to have been placed under at one point in time. So, there is a possibility it might have a compounding effect with other effects. I'm going to make it simple and just remove a bunch of extraneous words and remove the whole curses aspect and go for a simple idea. If you want wording that is closer to what I originally used in the old hypnosis or you want a curse element, we can see about coming up with something.

Description for if you wanted to make a file:
"This hypnosis file would make it to where you will become horny exactly one hour after you finish masturbating. The horniness will last until you masturbate. The horniness will always come back exactly one hour after you finish masturbating."

More detailed description of what the file would do:
Essentually, the file would make it to where you would always become horny exactly one hour after you finish masturbating, and the only way to get the horniness to abate would be to masturbate. But since the horniness is always supposed to come back exactly one hour after you finish masturbating, you would only ever be not horny for an hour maximum at any given time.

Potential complications:
Thoeretically, you could just masturbate shortly after the horniness sets in to prevent yourself from being horny a lot. But, in my experience, there are days where I am horny hours longer than I planned because I have to deal with real life stuff or I get sidestracked and start doing something else.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby davidsub1 » September 26th, 2024, 9:25 am

Not planning on creating a file but interested in seeing the script if you can post or send. Thanks
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » September 26th, 2024, 11:14 am

davidsub1 wrote:Not planning on creating a file but interested in seeing the script if you can post or send.


I don't have a script. I tried to get the effects to work a long time ago. If I remember correctly, I copied the script from a file from this site and I pasted it into Notepad and I tried to go into trance and then read it. I have searched multiple times to try to find the file on this website, but it seems that the file is no longer on this website.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby davidsub1 » September 27th, 2024, 7:30 am

Start of day 5 and woke up very horny but of course the curse is strong and getting very accustomed to its control. Feeling a sense of enslavement by the curse and condition set upon me. No partner to help me so this is very difficult today.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby davidsub1 » October 4th, 2024, 1:11 pm

Really need help. Got through 12 days and very desperate. Effectively in chastity as this curse had really settled in. May I have permission from someone to masturbate the one time.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby VeryGnawty » October 4th, 2024, 3:18 pm

You may masturbate.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby davidsub1 » October 4th, 2024, 3:21 pm

Thank you verygnawty especially without conditions attache.
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby davidsub1 » October 6th, 2024, 9:48 pm

After some soul searching decided to reinforce my predicament and listen to Cala curse. Just the third time of listening and feel this is very powerful suggestion of being a submissive slut ready for the humiliation. Experiencing already being able to edge with strong urge in my sub conscious to fight any release. 2 weeks having not had an orgasm and now realize this is unachievable and ready to continue until I teach sheer desperation
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Re: Need permission to masturbate

Postby davidsub1 » October 7th, 2024, 9:55 am

Listened to this file last night before going to sleep. I was awoken by my penis being harder than ever I can remember and highly aroused. Like my subconscious woke me up to realize that even though I was I was not able to masturbate. Had to try and go back to sleep hard and took over an hour to subside. I hope that doesn’t happen again. Very different to EMG file. It takes you to the edge and then the restrictions start. Very devious :o :o
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