The forced gay success thread...

[sfhole2stretch]

As a gay man I really don't get why anyone is listening to this file unless they have some unresolved tendencies in the first place. I can't imagine anyone who is truly "straight" wanting to do this even for the purpose of curiosity unless there is some underlying compulsion or desire.

Not trying to stir up a hornets nest. Just find this whole thread odd.

[donna_cd]

I'm back, I've found my usb cable so I can charge my MP3 Player.

Hurrah !!

[Alien4420]

Or you could just accept the truth. You are gay. The file could not have worked unless you had a little rainbow seed of gay somewhere deep inside your psyche. The 'ruin' comes from you denying the truth of yourself. Embrace it, and you'll feel a lot better.

And your evidence for this is?

I didn't think so.

[Alien4420]

Sexual attraction is a biological thing. Hypnosis can not modify the biological process of your brain. It can convince you of many things and convince you to a point that might seem to be as if it has modified your body. But if you really were 100% straight before listening to CFG, it should be very easy to go back. Because you would have biology on your side.

Hi Jeshi,

Not to be argumentative or anything, but I don't want to see people making a decision they'll regret! Too much, anyway, LOL. I've seen no evidence that it's easy for anyone to escape these curse files, and a lot of evidence to the contrary. They are just too well protected.

Sure, sexuality has a biological component. Twin studies show that if one identical twin is gay, the other has a 50% chance of being gay as well. But those same studies show that sexual orientation is *not* entirely determined by one's genes, or what happens in the womb. If it were, if one twin were gay, the other would always be gay as well.

There's no biology that makes some people have stocking or latex fetishes; these things didn't even exist when our sexual instincts evolved. Human sexuality, like most human instincts, is mutable. Our drives can be sublimated by programming the subconscious. And that's what hypnosis does, reprogram the subconscious.

The bottom line I think is that you should never listen to curse files if you can't accept the results. As I said, I don't know of *anyone* who's escaped these files after listening long enough. You listen to Deprogram All, and suddenly find yourself downloading Curse Forced Gay and listening again and again, as you were instructed to if you tried to escape. You think about going to a hypnotist and having it removed, but can't. These things have happened to me, and to others.

Anyway, I just wanted to say that, because I'm concerned that people will end up unhappy, as Ryan is. People who just want to experiment with their sexuality should listen to Train Sex Men rather than Curse Forced Gay. Something that's reversible. Curse Forced Gay is for those who are sure of their decision. Someone who's bi and wants to be all gay, say, or someone who feels they would have better relationships with men, like Dave. Or who are turned on by the idea of being made to do something and can accept the consequences if they can't escape.

[Alien4420]

So I see no reason why so many people got mesmerized by this file while many others have no reports what so ever. Even so, the results in this file unlike a few other should seem harder to achieve.

I've listened to a lot of files over the years, and found most of them pretty easy to throw off. The two EMG curse files I've listened to are the only exceptions. What they do, I think, that the other files don't, is block the normal avenues of escape. They're very cannily constructed. Plus they have the sex drive behind them, and we know how powerful that is, and how stubborn once set on a course.

BTW, you mentioned direct suggestion. I suspect that different people have different preferences. I know that I prefer direct suggestions. Files that have complicated scenarios and lots of visualization bore me and I tend to come up from trance, not to mention that I stop listening to them because they're long and boring. The only time I've ever gotten bored in EMG's files was during segments that didn't apply to me.

[sledge8891]

I am the latest one, two months ago I was straight and dating women but I never thought in my wildest dreams that I would soon be craving men and really liking it. I have no wish to try and 'go back'. I have tried quite a few files but not curse ones and they either do not work or just fade out of my mind after a time. I was curios about CFG and I listened a couple of times but stopped myself at the end of the induction. Then the third time I went so deep into trance that I listened to the whole file. That was two months ago. Over the weeks I started to surf gay porn and last week could not stop myself listening again. Now its every day and I am really enjoying the arousal and feelings that I get for men.

[El_Jugador]

I'm a straight guy, I don't particularly want to experience with gay sex, but this file fascinates me... Just the fact that it's so unbelievably strong makes me want to try it out against my better judgment, if only to see what all the talk is about. :lol: I'm sure at least some of its long-term users started out this way, too...

I'm not going to listen to it, even though the curiosity is killing me, but are there any other curse files (made by EMG or somebody else) that are this effective?

[Dogboy]

I'm a straight guy, I don't particularly want to experience with gay sex, but this file fascinates me... Just the fact that it's so unbelievably strong makes me want to try it out against my better judgment, if only to see what all the talk is about. :lol: I'm sure at least some of its long-term users started out this way, too...

I'm not going to listen to it, even though the curiosity is killing me, but are there any other curse files (made by EMG or somebody else) that are this effective?

I've felt the same way, not interested in being gay, but interested in being changed and unable to resist.

As to other files which have been effective, someone has wrote a journal about his experience with Curse Thumb Sucker. His experience sounds very similar to people's experience with Curse Force Gay. (Not intending to go through with it then embracing it wholeheartedly)

[Alien4420]

I'm not going to listen to it, even though the curiosity is killing me, but are there any other curse files (made by EMG or somebody else) that are this effective?

Curse Stroke Sissy, but that one is even worse!

[El_Jugador]

Curse Stroke Sissy, but that one is even worse!

Yeah, I figured as much. 8O If only there were a curse of equal or greater strength that would cause me to alter my behavior and wouldn't cost me my job/family...

[Alien4420]

Curse Stroke Sissy, but that one is even worse!

Yeah, I figured as much. 8O If only there were a curse of equal or greater strength that would cause me to alter my behavior and wouldn't cost me my job/family...

There's always Curse Forced Bi. I listened to it for a while and it doesn't have the impact of Forced Gay, but it wouldn't cost you your family, either.

I'm not really sure how well a bi file can work, I listened to them a lot in an attempt to mitigate Forced Gay and it seemed that my attractions could shift to one or the other sex but not equally to both.

[ohyouknow]

As to other files which have been effective, someone has wrote a journal about his experience with Curse Thumb Sucker. His experience sounds very similar to people's experience with Curse Force Gay. (Not intending to go through with it then embracing it wholeheartedly)

Can you remember the user's name, db? I'd love to read about that.

[Dogboy]

As to other files which have been effective, someone has wrote a journal about his experience with Curse Thumb Sucker. His experience sounds very similar to people's experience with Curse Force Gay. (Not intending to go through with it then embracing it wholeheartedly)

Can you remember the user's name, db? I'd love to read about that.

where2go's journal

[diggermaloo]

I feel the same as El_Jugador and Dogboy. I'm not really interested in being permanently gay but have a really strong fetish about being made to do something and being uable to resist. This file and Curse Stroke Sissy seem to have an almost irresistable attraction in that respect.

The more I read about peoples experiences the more drawn to trying one of them I am becoming. I don't think I'll be able to resist much longer.

[darkenedav]

I feel the same as El_Jugador and Dogboy. I'm not really interested in being permanently gay but have a really strong fetish about being made to do something and being uable to resist. This file and Curse Stroke Sissy seem to have an almost irresistable attraction in that respect.

The more I read about peoples experiences the more drawn to trying one of them I am becoming. I don't think I'll be able to resist much longer.

Thing is why not change the tact? get a female orgasm one? get a trigger one? there are plenty of those which have high success too. With this file it seems to be the little push most people need to come out.

[Dogboy]

Thing is why not change the tact? get a female orgasm one? get a trigger one? there are plenty of those which have high success too. With this file it seems to be the little push most people need to come out.

I think what makes it attractive is that it alters your personality dramatically in a constant way. (and in a way that allows you to still live a normal life) I've had good results with dog files, but I can't be a dog all the time.

The more I read about peoples experiences the more drawn to trying one of them I am becoming. I don't think I'll be able to resist much longer.

If you really don't want to risk listening, just keep reminding yourself why you like women and want to keep liking women. :wink:

[Carla]

These may be of interest. No curse involved.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0V524RJ0 (Change aka Straight to gay)
This is Isabella Valentine's

and

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TO0OQT19 (Gay guy) by Lady Lycia

[Carla]

Oops...btw....the password to dl Lady Lycia's is ourdirtpleasure.com

[genemcd234]

One small correction to that password - it's ourdirtypleasure.com

But be forewarned - my antivirus software said there was a trojan virus at the megaupload website, even before I downloaded the file. I'm glad I keep my AV file definitions up to date. 8)

Gene

[Alien4420]

I feel the same as El_Jugador and Dogboy. I'm not really interested in being permanently gay but have a really strong fetish about being made to do something and being uable to resist. This file and Curse Stroke Sissy seem to have an almost irresistable attraction in that respect.

The more I read about peoples experiences the more drawn to trying one of them I am becoming. I don't think I'll be able to resist much longer.

If you do break down, I suggest Forced Gay over Stroke Sissy. At least you'll be able to get a job!

[diggermaloo]

Possibly but I feel that CSS would be easier to resist or come back from than CFG.

[Alien4420]

I was able to beat Stroke Sissy, but I'd listened to it only a few times, so I can't say on that basis that it's easier to beat than Forced Gay.

I really loved the file and the effects, which surprised me. I kind of envy those guys who went all the way with it. But I'll be old in a few years, all I had to do to realize I couldn't do this was look in the mirror.

[ftslave67]

"old in a few years"--what, youre turning 30? lol ;)

[Alien4420]

"old in a few years"--what, youre turning 30? lol ;)

I'm turning 11.

[river12]

I've listened to cursed forced gay twice now in the last two days without any affect really, not as the file says it will do.

Although have watched some male/male porn but still dont feel this file could turn me gay.

only other thing i could think is that im not going under enough for this file.


Ive listened to a few files on this site and have had success but not this one presently.

[Alien4420]

The effects occur gradually rather than instantly. If you listen daily, it will start taking effect, one change at a time.

[river12]

The effects occur gradually rather than instantly. If you listen daily, it will start taking effect, one change at a time.

yes ok i will give it a go again.

like i said i have listened to other files on this site and they have worked straight away but i think i go deeper with the other authors, im not sure whether its the voice or subliminals or what.

Most successful files for me have been "go go girl" "female orgasm" "trig schoolgirl" all good fun

[Alien4420]

I'm not sure that it matters all that much whether you go into a deep trance or not. As long as you're going into some kind of trance, it should work, and you've had success with other files, so . . .

[river12]

I'm not sure that it matters all that much whether you go into a deep trance or not. As long as you're going into some kind of trance, it should work, and you've had success with other files, so . . .

yes its quite strange that it hasnt worked for me.

[Alien4420]

It takes more time! At least it did for me, and everyone whose accounts I've read. Give it a few weeks, you'll start to notice the changes.

[ftslave67]

I think if you want it to work, and you give it a chance, it will. There might be a certain time of day that's best for listening, for me it's after coming home from work. Listen to it daily for a week or so, then forget about it, and I bet you'll notice something within a week.

[clsresponder]

How did the file first start to affect you? I have listened when time allows for about a month. While my listening is infrequent I do have a strong desire to listen when ever possible. As for my sexuality, I notice myself checking out guys occasionally (something I have never done) and I seem to only be interested in porn with cock in them (something that was previously occasional) so my question is do you think the file is working on me and what can I expect in the near future.

[river12]

I've listened to cursed forced gay twice now in the last two days without any affect really, not as the file says it will do.

Although have watched some male/male porn but still dont feel this file could turn me gay.

only other thing i could think is that im not going under enough for this file.


Ive listened to a few files on this site and have had success but not this one presently.

Hi again im now going to keep a journal on this file and see how it goes.

[Ryan83]

You'll be one of us soon enough. :wink:

[angel2342]

You'll be one of us soon enough. :wink:

lol, You almost made water come out of my nose.
XD

[Dogboy]

You'll be one of us soon enough. :wink:

Weren't you very unhappy that you were gay in your last posts?

[brconfused]

Yeah, I have to agree with his statement about EMG and the files. Everyone who listens and falls under its spell is simply desiring a reason to think a specific way. I did the same thing a year ago. I hoped that the file would convinced me it is OK to be gay. Though I honestly believe it is ok to be gay, I just don't think it is right for myself. Yes I have a physical attraction to men and sometimes it is overpowering, I just don't have a single mental or spiritual attraction to them.

THe hypnosis files that "work" are the ones that people already feel a connection to and want to work...IMO

[river12]

Yeah, I have to agree with his statement about EMG and the files. Everyone who listens and falls under its spell is simply desiring a reason to think a specific way. I did the same thing a year ago. I hoped that the file would convinced me it is OK to be gay. Though I honestly believe it is ok to be gay, I just don't think it is right for myself. Yes I have a physical attraction to men and sometimes it is overpowering, I just don't have a single mental or spiritual attraction to them.

THe hypnosis files that "work" are the ones that people already feel a connection to and want to work...IMO

I wanted to try it just for the fact to see if it will work.
I have only listened for 4 times so far so will keep on listening and see what the out come is.

[Alien4420]

Yes I have a physical attraction to men and sometimes it is overpowering, I just don't have a single mental or spiritual attraction to them.

I'm still wrestling with my own version of that. In my case, it's not that I can't have a close relationship with a man. It's that much of the time, I'm aware that this sexuality isn't natural to me, that it's been superimposed on my attraction to women. It's almost like having double vision. When I'm horny, this goes away and I'm attracted to men, but when I'm not, I'm very aware of the discrepancy.

[Ryan83]

Yes I have a physical attraction to men and sometimes it is overpowering, I just don't have a single mental or spiritual attraction to them.

I'm still wrestling with my own version of that. In my case, it's not that I can't have a close relationship with a man. It's that much of the time, I'm aware that this sexuality isn't natural to me, that it's been superimposed on my attraction to women. It's almost like having double vision. When I'm horny, this goes away and I'm attracted to men, but when I'm not, I'm very aware of the discrepancy.

BINGO

[ftslave67]

Maybe the "horny" you is the real you, and the "normal" you is the expectations with which society has burdened you. Think about that.

[Alien4420]

My sense is social expectations, yes, "real me," no. It really isn't hidden from you: you can sense when something has been superimposed on something else and I think many of us here have reported that feeling in one version or another.

[Route42]

Yes I have a physical attraction to men and sometimes it is overpowering, I just don't have a single mental or spiritual attraction to them.

I'm still wrestling with my own version of that. In my case, it's not that I can't have a close relationship with a man. It's that much of the time, I'm aware that this sexuality isn't natural to me, that it's been superimposed on my attraction to women. It's almost like having double vision. When I'm horny, this goes away and I'm attracted to men, but when I'm not, I'm very aware of the discrepancy.

This is basically what the wording of the file ensures, though. The file is all about the physical--and even wants you to feel this conflict between the physical attraction to men and a continuing basic interest in women. The wording encourages a sense of degradation about the whole ordeal. Which may be while the file has succeeded on people where the more pleasantly worded gay files fail--a brain which cannot comprehend just turning gay on a whim WILL understand turning gay and feeling conflict about it. It is a sly move, and the forcefulness of a curse file merely amplifies the effect.

[river12]

Yes I have a physical attraction to men and sometimes it is overpowering, I just don't have a single mental or spiritual attraction to them.

I'm still wrestling with my own version of that. In my case, it's not that I can't have a close relationship with a man. It's that much of the time, I'm aware that this sexuality isn't natural to me, that it's been superimposed on my attraction to women. It's almost like having double vision. When I'm horny, this goes away and I'm attracted to men, but when I'm not, I'm very aware of the discrepancy.

This is basically what the wording of the file ensures, though. The file is all about the physical--and even wants you to feel this conflict between the physical attraction to men and a continuing basic interest in women. The wording encourages a sense of degradation about the whole ordeal. Which may be while the file has succeeded on people where the more pleasantly worded gay files fail--a brain which cannot comprehend just turning gay on a whim WILL understand turning gay and feeling conflict about it. It is a sly move, and the forcefulness of a curse file merely amplifies the effect.

file was working for me in first week but has now done a complete opposite and i feel no urge to listen at all.

[Alien4420]

file was working for me in first week but has now done a complete opposite and i feel no urge to listen at all.

That's interesting. Perhaps, deep down, you didn't really want to listen? A form of resistance?

[Alien4420]

This is basically what the wording of the file ensures, though. The file is all about the physical--and even wants you to feel this conflict between the physical attraction to men and a continuing basic interest in women. The wording encourages a sense of degradation about the whole ordeal. Which may be while the file has succeeded on people where the more pleasantly worded gay files fail--a brain which cannot comprehend just turning gay on a whim WILL understand turning gay and feeling conflict about it. It is a sly move, and the forcefulness of a curse file merely amplifies the effect.

That's true. It certainly accounts for part of the experience, though l'm not sure that it accounts for the whole. For example, CFG clearly states that you will lose your attraction to women, but that still pops up when I see a sexy woman out of the corner of my eye, only to be rapidly suppressed. I can feel the suggestion kicking in. That's the sort of thing I'm talking about -- the sense that the earlier behavioral patterns are still there, under the imposed ones.

Another example might be the discomfort I sometimes still feel at the thought of having a relationship with men. This can be both physical (one shortcoming of CFG is that it doesn't address faces, only bodies) and psychological -- if forex I'm watching a TV show, I'm still thinking how cute the actress is, and imagining myself in the actor's position. So the suggestion that "you will be totally gay" doesn't seem to have moved beyond the sexual response.

There are also, I think, biological cues that affect our sexuality, though they don't for most of us determine it. Pheromones and the instinctual reaction to facial and body hair come to mind. I suspect that some gay guys who were "born that way," as I think some guys are, don't have that response, or have its female equivalent.

Whatever the effectiveness of CFG, I don't think it's easy in 1-1/2 years -- during which I've listened to the file only intermittently -- to reverse a lifetime's experience and assumptions. What is remarkable is that sex drive itself is so easily sublimated.

[Dino_dyno]

file was working for me in first week but has now done a complete opposite and i feel no urge to listen at all.

Hi River. My guess is that your mind is giving you one last chance to avoid the effects of the file. IMO if you choose to carry on listening you will probably end up going the same way I did.

[AlanH26]

file was working for me in first week but has now done a complete opposite and i feel no urge to listen at all.

Hi River. My guess is that your mind is giving you one last chance to avoid the effects of the file. IMO if you choose to carry on listening you will probably end up going the same way I did.

I think that this is the case as well.

You should have another listen, just to see what happens. You know you want to be one of us really...

[Dogboy]

file was working for me in first week but has now done a complete opposite and i feel no urge to listen at all.

Hi River. My guess is that your mind is giving you one last chance to avoid the effects of the file. IMO if you choose to carry on listening you will probably end up going the same way I did.

Are you still listening Dino_dyno?

[ftslave67]

That's true. It certainly accounts for part of the experience, though l'm not sure that it accounts for the whole. For example, CFG clearly states that you will lose your attraction to women, but that still pops up when I see a sexy woman out of the corner of my eye, only to be rapidly suppressed. I can feel the suggestion kicking in. That's the sort of thing I'm talking about -- the sense that the earlier behavioral patterns are still there, under the imposed ones.

Well, it sounds to me like you have more of an attraction to the idea of being controlled by hypnosis. You've conditioned yourself to respond in this way (by listening to the file repeatedly). The idea that someone else is controlling you to do "something you don't want to do" IS kind of hot. It takes guilt out of the equation, because, hey, you're being controlled, right?