The forced gay success thread...

[Imperiator]

Rigsby, depending on where you are (most places in the US, actually), you can still lose your job for being gay. My state, for example, has "at-will" employment, so they can fire you for any reason or no reason at all. If you are a member of a protected class, such as a minority or over-40, you can sue, but you would have to prove discrimination. Sexual minorities are not a protected class under the law.

I don't consider it a preference, but an orientation, BTW.

Another reason is that some people want to be open and not have to watch what they say all the time.

What state is this the state of 1957. The Supreme Court has said that sexuality is a protected class. And most states do have some form of protection for us. And you don't have to work in a right to work state to get fire for nothing. I watched someone get fired for saying something bad about the golden boy at work. The boss went back into his personal file just to find something.



P.s. last I checked Ohio isn't a right to work state.

[Dave564]

So shocked this thread has reached 1000 replies, not sure what to say lol!

[rigsby]

So shocked this thread has reached 1000 replies, not sure what to say lol!

Considering how drastically it's changed so many of our lives, I don't find it very shocking at all.

[Dave564]

I just mean that it was never my intention when I started it, I had no idea where we would all end up.

[biggerfatter]

Do you have an update by any chance, Dave? Seeing as it's almost like an anniversary?

[samhash]

I feel like a change is happening in me finally... i found myself attacted to a male today.


I felt like i could do more than want to try oral, i had feelings i never felt for the same sex before. Wow i am not sure if the attraction will last, but very cool stuff here!

[bostonmarc]

It is sounding like we need to schedule an alumni party for all the devotees of CFG.

[Tangy]

It is sounding like we need to schedule an alumni party for all the devotees of CFG.

Yeaa Good luck On that

[rigsby]

I was a repeated rape Victim at Age the Age 12 until I was 16 with no help or friends to stop my abuse I even know what it feel like to try to poop and nothing comes out of your Butt but cum it hard to even tell this story but I am grown now and it is a little easier to tell but still hard to tell using even the my screen name Tangy I am still a virgin to this day never had any girls as a sex partner only men who force me into having sex with them I have not have sex since it was gross poop on the person raping Dick he just wipes his penis off and go into me again and then the next person his friends would go inside me until they cum without Condoms my firsit and only experience of sex was being rape by men . and it is a very violent and abusive activity I have not found anyone who is willing to give me a real loving relationship since even here on supposedly Gay Hypnotic site.

Anyone who was raped at age 12 is going to need major, in-person psychotherapy for many, many years to come. As well-meaning as most people on this forum are, that's simply not something we're able to give you.

Please: Go get help. NOW.

[Tangy]

I was a repeated rape Victim at Age the Age 12 until I was 16 with no help or friends to stop my abuse I even know what it feel like to try to poop and nothing comes out of your Butt but cum it hard to even tell this story but I am grown now and it is a little easier to tell but still hard to tell using even the my screen name Tangy I am still a virgin to this day never had any girls as a sex partner only men who force me into having sex with them I have not have sex since it was gross poop on the person raping Dick he just wipes his penis off and go into me again and then the next person his friends would go inside me until they cum without Condoms my firsit and only experience of sex was being rape by men . and it is a very violent and abusive activity I have not found anyone who is willing to give me a real loving relationship since even here on supposedly Gay Hypnotic site.

Anyone who was raped at age 12 is going to need major, in-person psychotherapy for many, many years to come. As well-meaning as most people on this forum are, that's simply not something we're able to give you.

Please: Go get help. NOW.

20 years of therapy I already have that's why I can talk about and warn you about it before you Go down that road the reason we use hypnosis is to have a hypnotic experience not a life changing one a Fantasy not a real life changing one You will be looking for Steve the Father of the Night. :o

[bostonmarc]

It is sounding like we need to schedule an alumni party for all the devotees of CFG.

Yeaa Good luck On that

Yes I have to agree with Tangy, getting any two together from online is nothing short of a miracle. However, an conference call might be interesting and more likely to happen? Especially if we have some of our wonderful tists in there as well.

[AlanH26]

I was a repeated rape Victim at Age the Age 12 until I was 16 with no help or friends to stop my abuse I even know what it feel like to try to poop and nothing comes out of your Butt but cum it hard to even tell this story but I am grown now and it is a little easier to tell but still hard to tell using even the my screen name Tangy I am still a virgin to this day never had any girls as a sex partner only men who force me into having sex with them I have not have sex since it was gross poop on the person raping Dick he just wipes his penis off and go into me again and then the next person his friends would go inside me until they cum without Condoms my firsit and only experience of sex was being rape by men . and it is a very violent and abusive activity I have not found anyone who is willing to give me a real loving relationship since even here on supposedly Gay Hypnotic site.

Anyone who was raped at age 12 is going to need major, in-person psychotherapy for many, many years to come. As well-meaning as most people on this forum are, that's simply not something we're able to give you.

Please: Go get help. NOW.

20 years of therapy I already have that's why I can talk about and warn you about it before you Go down that road the reason we use hypnosis is to have a hypnotic experience not a life changing one a Fantasy not a real life changing one You will be looking for Steve the Father of the Night. :o

Tangy,

With the best will in the world, I don't think that this thread is the place to air your history. This is a thread for people who have been willingly changed from straight to gay and is by and large meant to be about the success of that and most have kept it light hearted. I'm sorry if you've had a dreadful history but as Rigsby says, I think you should perhaps consider other forums to vent your past.

[AlanH26]

Incidently, if anyone happens to be coming to Edinburgh, I'd be happy to meet you :)

[Tangy]

Incidently, if anyone happens to be coming to Edinburgh, I'd be happy to meet you :)

As in hypnosis your wish is my command ~~~"""Poof"""~~~ Granted I am Off this thread :o

[Dave564]

@biggerfatter

I can give an update if you would like - not much has changed since my last one though, it has been many years now though!

Is there anything in particular you'd like to know?

[Alien4420]

On a slight tangent, how did you guys find your "new normal?" Havving gone through so much change so quickly has left me somewhat off balance.

One curious thing I've noticed is that if I go without listening to CFG or other files for a few days, everything recedes into the background and that's when I'm aware that it's the new normal, because it feels natural and unforced and I'm not thinking about it -- it's just the way I am.

[Alien4420]

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[Ryan83]

No. Anything but getting back to who I was is not ok.

[Alien4420]

Afraid I responded to some posts of yours before I'd read to the end of the thread. I'm glad that you spoke to a hypnotist and that it went well for you.

[Ryan83]

I appreciate that, but it really didn't go all that well, if I'm being honest. I pushed myself further into being gay when I did that which is exactly the opposite of what I want. I need to undo all this. I have to stop digging the hole bigger for myself.

[Alien4420]

So shocked this thread has reached 1000 replies, not sure what to say lol!

Hey Dave! Great to see you.

[biggerfatter]

I can give an update if you would like - not much has changed since my last one though, it has been many years now though!

Is there anything in particular you'd like to know?

Do you have the same boyfriend? Are you musical tastes the same? Have you ever been tempted by women? I mean, you're the first in a lot of ways. What happens in the long run for CFGers?

[Dave564]

@Alien4420

Hiya hun!


@biggerfatter

I am still with Luke my boyfriend yes - it's been almost 4 years now! I'm mainly into pop and dance music, however if we're going out or I'm just in the mood I will listen to techno, trance and EDM - I absolutely adore Lady Gaga and bought her new single on first day of release! :)

I have never been tempted by women, not even once - no one has even come close, I have no attraction to girls - not sexually so it simply doesn't matter how hard anyone could try it just would't make a blind bit of difference.

I live with Luke and am close to his friends and family, I work part time as an assistant in a local fashion / photography studio and occasionally fill in at a hairdressers nearby.

I actually don't listen to CFG anymore, I don't think I've listened to the file in over a year, Luke probably has a bigger influence on me now than the file ever did - but I have no problem with that!

(ps. I'm going to try out the chat room on this forum tonight for the first time ever if anyone from this thread feels like saying hello!)

[rigsby]

Since I haven't really made an update, as such, I'll just mention that I have been dating several really amazing guys in the past weeks. For the first time in quite a while, I'm very optimistic that I won't be alone for much longer.

(And Dave, if you want to share some of the credit for that, feel free!)

[Ryan83]

Yeah, I'm probably going to stop posting here (or at least stop posting as much). I am going to get this undone, one way or another. Hopefully the next time I post it will be an update declaring that I'm straight again (and this nightmare is finally over). Wish me luck.

And I'm glad you're all happy. Hopefully I will be too someday.

[rigsby]

Last night, for the first time in several years, I had a date with a guy whom I took home, and we spent the entire night. The experience was far different - and better - than anything I had been through before. I've never been one to broadcast details about my sex life, but let's just say that this was a warm, sweet guy, and I truly think we're both beginning to fall for the other. We're keeping in touch.

(I even told him about CFG, and he says that being gay really suits me! I agree with him.)

[jacktag]

Umm...holy crap. I haven't been able to get hard for my girlfriend without a struggle for the last two weeks and I keep masturbating to gay porn.

[rigsby]

Umm...holy crap. I haven't been able to get hard for my girlfriend without a struggle for the last two weeks and I keep masturbating to gay porn.

That's CFG for you, Jack.

You start out being sure it can't possibly do anything to you, and you seem to be right for the first few weeks. Then bingo-bango-homo, you suddenly really like guys!

It's going to be tough to undo at this point. If you decide instead to keep listening and ride the changes for another few weeks, you'll start feeling a lot better.

[AlanH26]

Umm...holy crap. I haven't been able to get hard for my girlfriend without a struggle for the last two weeks and I keep masturbating to gay porn.

That's CFG for you, Jack.

You start out being sure it can't possibly do anything to you, and you seem to be right for the first few weeks. Then bingo-bango-homo, you suddenly really like guys!

It's going to be tough to undo at this point. If you decide instead to keep listening and ride the changes for another few weeks, you'll start feeling a lot better.

Correct, Rigsby. Jack, just keep listening. You'll lose a girlfriend but you'll be truly gay soon. And trust me, that's waaaay better xx

[JoyofSub]

Umm...holy crap. I haven't been able to get hard for my girlfriend without a struggle for the last two weeks and I keep masturbating to gay porn.

I'm certain everyone here would love to hear more of your conversion. Your last submission had been in mid-July. At that time, you were disappointed that the file hadn't taken affect. Have you been listening throughout this time? When did you first begin to feel a difference?

Long before I became acquainted with CFG, or had embraced my trans disposition, I reached a point with my girlfriend where I only wanted to penetrate her from behind. This allowed me to fantasize that I was with a queen. Then it became the only way I could have her. Soon I realized there wasn't anything sexual here that I wanted at all. That in reality, I wanted to be receiving everything that I had been giving.

The great advantage to CFG is that the sexual withdrawal from women becomes so easy and painless. When I walked away, I was still burdened with an unwanted attraction to them. Sexual desire was obviously not the issue, but I couldn't rid myself of this attraction. I love CFG for ridding me of this: for annihilating the last vestiges of hetero-interest.

Some guys have feared starting CFG because they wanted to hold on desperately to this attraction. Apparently, this wasn't the case for you. So, do you find your cooling passion towards them a tad exciting? Do you sense a glaciation is at hand, and that casual encounters with men leave you pleasingly warm?

If you're finding gay porn so arousing and intense, it might be time for a sampling. After all, how will you truly know if it's for you , if you've never participated. Whether your preference is for fem, alpha, bear, bbc etc., there are men eager to introduce you to a new world of elevated pleasures. Gay isn't just a voyeurs' sport. We're all here rooting for you to get off the bench and into the game.

[jacktag]

Umm...holy crap. I haven't been able to get hard for my girlfriend without a struggle for the last two weeks and I keep masturbating to gay porn.

I'm certain everyone here would love to hear more of your conversion. Your last submission had been in mid-July. At that time, you were disappointed that the file hadn't taken affect. Have you been listening throughout this time? When did you first begin to feel a difference?

Long before I became acquainted with CFG, or had embraced my trans disposition, I reached a point with my girlfriend where I only wanted to penetrate her from behind. This allowed me to fantasize that I was with a queen. Then it became the only way I could have her. Soon I realized there wasn't anything sexual here that I wanted at all. That in reality, I wanted to be receiving everything that I had been giving.

The great advantage to CFG is that the sexual withdrawal from women becomes so easy and painless. When I walked away, I was still burdened with an unwanted attraction to them. Sexual desire was obviously not the issue, but I couldn't rid myself of this attraction. I love CFG for ridding me of this: for annihilating the last vestiges of hetero-interest.

Some guys have feared starting CFG because they wanted to hold on desperately to this attraction. Apparently, this wasn't the case for you. So, do you find your cooling passion towards them a tad exciting? Do you sense a glaciation is at hand, and that casual encounters with men leave you pleasingly warm?

If you're finding gay porn so arousing and intense, it might be time for a sampling. After all, how will you truly know if it's for you , if you've never participated. Whether your preference is for fem, alpha, bear, bbc etc., there are men eager to introduce you to a new world of elevated pleasures. Gay isn't just a voyeurs' sport. We're all here rooting for you to get off the bench and into the game.

Your comment about only wanting to take your girlfriend from behind is disturbingly on point...

That being said I didn't really think it would get to this point and am pretty bothered by it. I'm trying for cooling period right now.

[rigsby]

I didn't really think it would get to this point and am pretty bothered by it. I'm trying for cooling period right now.

You're at the most difficult stage with CFG, it sounds like. At that point, it's normal to feel anything from disturbed anxiety to complete terror. It does pass.

The fastest way to make it pass is to keep listening. Try to relax as much as you can about the changes, even to enjoy them. Remember that, apart from your orientation, you will emerge from this as the same person you were before. Take some time to experience that. Date some guys. Then you can figure out where you want to go from there.

[jacktag]

I had sex with a guy this afternoon. I can't believe it.

[JoyofSub]

I had sex with a guy this afternoon. I can't believe it.

This sounds so wonderful, but you have always been so amazingly taciturn with us. Could you elaborate a little: How did it happen? What happened? More importantly, how do you feel about it?

[jacktag]

I had sex with a guy this afternoon. I can't believe it.

This sounds so wonderful, but you have always been so amazingly taciturn with us. Could you elaborate a little: How did it happen? What happened? More importantly, how do you feel about it?

I'm really shook up about it. A gay co-worker/friend was at my apartment having beers on the balcony. We've known each other for a year, but maybe he caught me looking at him oddly today. Anyway, when we were back inside on the couch he started moving in closer, and then closer. When I didn't move away he must have been emboldened because he just went for it.

I feel sore. It hurt. And I'm embarrassed. I don't know what to tell my gf.

[rigsby]

I had sex with a guy this afternoon. I can't believe it.

This sounds so wonderful, but you have always been so amazingly taciturn with us. Could you elaborate a little: How did it happen? What happened? More importantly, how do you feel about it?

I'm really shook up about it. A gay co-worker/friend was at my apartment having beers on the balcony. We've known each other for a year, but maybe he caught me looking at him oddly today. Anyway, when we were back inside on the couch he started moving in closer, and then closer. When I didn't move away he must have been emboldened because he just went for it.

I feel sore. It hurt. And I'm embarrassed. I don't know what to tell my gf.

It's okay to tell a guy that you're inexperienced, and that you want him to slow down or be more gentle. Would you want to get back together with this guy if he did so?

No need to tell your GF anything at this point.

[jacktag]

I had sex with a guy this afternoon. I can't believe it.

This sounds so wonderful, but you have always been so amazingly taciturn with us. Could you elaborate a little: How did it happen? What happened? More importantly, how do you feel about it?

I'm really shook up about it. A gay co-worker/friend was at my apartment having beers on the balcony. We've known each other for a year, but maybe he caught me looking at him oddly today. Anyway, when we were back inside on the couch he started moving in closer, and then closer. When I didn't move away he must have been emboldened because he just went for it.

I feel sore. It hurt. And I'm embarrassed. I don't know what to tell my gf.

It's okay to tell a guy that you're inexperienced, and that you want him to slow down or be more gentle. Would you want to get back together with this guy if he did so?

No need to tell your GF anything at this point.

I mean, does this make me officially gay? Can I come back from this?

[JoyofSub]

I had sex with a guy this afternoon. I can't believe it.

This sounds so wonderful, but you have always been so amazingly taciturn with us. Could you elaborate a little: How did it happen? What happened? More importantly, how do you feel about it?

I'm really shook up about it. A gay co-worker/friend was at my apartment having beers on the balcony. We've known each other for a year, but maybe he caught me looking at him oddly today. Anyway, when we were back inside on the couch he started moving in closer, and then closer. When I didn't move away he must have been emboldened because he just went for it.

I feel sore. It hurt. And I'm embarrassed. I don't know what to tell my gf.

It sounds like your friend was more opportunistic than sensitive to your needs. Perhaps not the most ideal partner for the event.

I agree, however, with rigsby; a little feedback to your partner can go a long way to turning discomfort into pleasure; turning an embarrassing experience into an embracive one. The important thing to keep in mind is that you were not only receptive to his advances, it is most likely you were silently inviting their initiation. For myself, when I have attracted a man's advances, that moment of total submission to them is simply intoxicating and sublime.

Like rigsby, I'm also not certain this is the best time to relate all of this to your gf now. It's all so new and sudden. It may take a while for you to adjust to how you feel about everything. Has she given any indication that she is sensing an emotional drift in your relationship?

[rigsby]

I mean, does this make me officially gay? Can I come back from this?

There is no such thing as "officially gay," dude. As long as you're willing to call yourself gay, that's enough.

Curse or not, anyone can come back from this. The more important question is, "Do you WANT to?" It would take a lot of time and effort, so I would not recommend putting yourself through that until you've been in this situation longer and are sure you want to do it. Like I said before, I advise that you use this time to explore a little: date a few different guys and see what happens.

[ftslave67]

Sometimes we all do things we regret. Alcohol is usually not beneficial to decision-making abilities. However, you don't have anything to be ashamed of--you tried something, you didn't like it, and that's that. Would probably be helpful to think about what you didn't like about the experience and what would make it better (or even whether you just don't want to go down that road again), what you don't want to do, etc. Most people are skittish about discussing sex, but communication with a partner or potential partner is key.

[Tangy]

I mean, does this make me officially gay? Can I come back from this?

There is no such thing as "officially gay," dude. As long as you're willing to call yourself gay, that's enough.

Curse or not, anyone can come back from this. The more important question is, "Do you WANT to?" It would take a lot of time and effort, so I would not recommend putting yourself through that until you've been in this situation longer and are sure you want to do it. Like I said before, I advise that you use this time to explore a little: date a few different guys and see what happens.

I know I said I was going to stay out of this after all you did listen to the file so some part of you wanted this, but since you do want to go back being a men here is a file I created that I hope helps with your quest

I want to be a child but I am to hyperactive for that to really happen but here is the file and please post your success or failure with my file
• Name: Cosmic Fire Deprogramer2

Description: that's it it deprograms Files that you can not get rit of but want to give you a clean and fresh Slate to start Afresh feedback please Anybody can use Permanent
Author: Tangy ? Added On: 2012-01-03 Downloaded: 172 Length: 13:14
Audience: Any Effect: Permanent
Average Rating: 1.6000 Total Votes: 5
Permanent Link: Cosmic Fire Deprogramer2 Favorite: Mark Favorite
Love Tangy

[jacktag]

Sometimes we all do things we regret. Alcohol is usually not beneficial to decision-making abilities. However, you don't have anything to be ashamed of--you tried something, you didn't like it, and that's that. Would probably be helpful to think about what you didn't like about the experience and what would make it better (or even whether you just don't want to go down that road again), what you don't want to do, etc. Most people are skittish about discussing sex, but communication with a partner or potential partner is key.

It's not that I didn't like it. I liked it a lot. It just hurt.

[AlanH26]

Sometimes we all do things we regret. Alcohol is usually not beneficial to decision-making abilities. However, you don't have anything to be ashamed of--you tried something, you didn't like it, and that's that. Would probably be helpful to think about what you didn't like about the experience and what would make it better (or even whether you just don't want to go down that road again), what you don't want to do, etc. Most people are skittish about discussing sex, but communication with a partner or potential partner is key.

It's not that I didn't like it. I liked it a lot. It just hurt.

Don't worry honey, the first time made me feel like I was being split in two. Unbelievably painful. But after some practice and some good communication with the other guy, I learned what to do so it just felt amazing. That'll come. I focused on the parts of my first time that I really enjoyed (the kissing and being so close to a man). After that, everything fell into place.

[sr5]

Long before I became acquainted with CFG, or had embraced my trans disposition, I reached a point with my girlfriend where I only wanted to penetrate her from behind. This allowed me to fantasize that I was with a queen. Then it became the only way I could have her. Soon I realized there wasn't anything sexual here that I wanted at all. That in reality, I wanted to be receiving everything that I had been giving.

Wow - when I had a gf, after a sexually charged incident with a guy, I couldn't get hard for her unless I imagined myself in her place - that I was the one getting my pussy fucked, my tits fondled. We even did roleplay where she was submissive - again, it was imagining myself in her place that turned me on.

[JoyofSub]

Sometimes we all do things we regret. Alcohol is usually not beneficial to decision-making abilities. However, you don't have anything to be ashamed of--you tried something, you didn't like it, and that's that. Would probably be helpful to think about what you didn't like about the experience and what would make it better (or even whether you just don't want to go down that road again), what you don't want to do, etc. Most people are skittish about discussing sex, but communication with a partner or potential partner is key.

It's not that I didn't like it. I liked it a lot. It just hurt.

Don't worry honey, the first time made me feel like I was being split in two. Unbelievably painful. But after some practice and some good communication with the other guy, I learned what to do so it just felt amazing. That'll come. I focused on the parts of my first time that I really enjoyed (the kissing and being so close to a man). After that, everything fell into place.

Practice, practice, practice: The key to proficiency in anything of worth. Playing with toys during those solo moments can enhance the pleasure of play when with others. I was once having trouble handling the generous endowment of a man who was dating me on occasion. A gurl friend instructed me to arch the small of my back and throw my hips as high as possible. Voila! It turned my wincing into prrrs of "yes-es and mores.

AlanH26 is right, just like the song says, "it's in his kiss".

[JoyofSub]

Long before I became acquainted with CFG, or had embraced my trans disposition, I reached a point with my girlfriend where I only wanted to penetrate her from behind. This allowed me to fantasize that I was with a queen. Then it became the only way I could have her. Soon I realized there wasn't anything sexual here that I wanted at all. That in reality, I wanted to be receiving everything that I had been giving.

Wow - when I had a gf, after a sexually charged incident with a guy, I couldn't get hard for her unless I imagined myself in her place - that I was the one getting my pussy fucked, my tits fondled. We even did roleplay where she was submissive - again, it was imagining myself in her place that turned me on.

So, where are you now: dreaming or being?

[rigsby]

Sometimes we all do things we regret. Alcohol is usually not beneficial to decision-making abilities. However, you don't have anything to be ashamed of--you tried something, you didn't like it, and that's that. Would probably be helpful to think about what you didn't like about the experience and what would make it better (or even whether you just don't want to go down that road again), what you don't want to do, etc. Most people are skittish about discussing sex, but communication with a partner or potential partner is key.

It's not that I didn't like it. I liked it a lot. It just hurt.

Don't worry honey, the first time made me feel like I was being split in two. Unbelievably painful. But after some practice and some good communication with the other guy, I learned what to do so it just felt amazing. That'll come. I focused on the parts of my first time that I really enjoyed (the kissing and being so close to a man). After that, everything fell into place.

Practice, practice, practice: The key to proficiency in anything of worth. Playing with toys during those solo moments can enhance the pleasure of play when with others. I was once having trouble handling the generous endowment of a man who was dating me on occasion. A gurl friend instructed me to arch the small of my back and throw my hips as high as possible. Voila! It turned my wincing into prrrs of "yes-es and mores.

AlanH26 is right, just like the song says, "it's in his kiss".

My man and I have just been oral so far, and that's amazing in its own right. I couldn't believe how good it felt the first time he inserted his tongue. Especially since I would have been revolted at the idea only a few months ago.

[sr5]

Long before I became acquainted with CFG, or had embraced my trans disposition, I reached a point with my girlfriend where I only wanted to penetrate her from behind. This allowed me to fantasize that I was with a queen. Then it became the only way I could have her. Soon I realized there wasn't anything sexual here that I wanted at all. That in reality, I wanted to be receiving everything that I had been giving.

Wow - when I had a gf, after a sexually charged incident with a guy, I couldn't get hard for her unless I imagined myself in her place - that I was the one getting my pussy fucked, my tits fondled. We even did roleplay where she was submissive - again, it was imagining myself in her place that turned me on.

So, where are you now: dreaming or being?

I guess mainly dreaming - I've bottomed, including while roleplaying a woman, but it's not like the fantasies, and I don't do it regularly in any case.

[JoyofSub]

I had sex with a guy this afternoon. I can't believe it.

This sounds so wonderful, but you have always been so amazingly taciturn with us. Could you elaborate a little: How did it happen? What happened? More importantly, how do you feel about it?

I'm really shook up about it. A gay co-worker/friend was at my apartment having beers on the balcony. We've known each other for a year, but maybe he caught me looking at him oddly today. Anyway, when we were back inside on the couch he started moving in closer, and then closer. When I didn't move away he must have been emboldened because he just went for it.

I feel sore. It hurt. And I'm embarrassed. I don't know what to tell my gf.

I 100% disagree with those who are saying don't tell your girlfriend anything yet. It doesn't matter the gender -- you just cheated on her. And you are listening on a file that is really only encouraging you to cheat on her more. Stop listening to the file or let her go, but it is incredibly disrespectful of her emotions and wellbeing to be having sex with others while still in the relationship, no matter how erotic. Hypnosis is hot, changing is hot, but this is a real person you are fucking over right now. Make the decision of which direction, but it is insanely inappropriate to still be in this relationship and be engaging in this behavior. If you want to start having sex with men, leave her and let her find somebody else.

Why do you assume this relationship is based on exclusive, mutual fidelity? Their emotions and commitments are not in our purview. We know of no oath, vow or promise that exist between them concerning these matters. For all we know, it could be an open and casual relationship. Perhaps, no clear bonds and boundaries yet exist.

Jacktag is relatively new to this file. We have no idea of the depth or frequency of his exposure to CFG. Apparently, however, it has been inspirational enough for him to experiment with his sexuality. Our understanding of that event is that it left him "shook up about it...sore...hurt...embarrassed".

This is hardly an ecstatic confirmation. The intonation is negative and resounds of remorse. It was at this juncture and understanding that we felt it would be injudicious and premature to confess this solitary indiscretion that could scuttle their relationship and potentially cause much unnecessary pain. To advocate anything else would be monstrous and cruel.

However, since then, we have discovered that Jacktag "liked it a lot. It just hurt." So we have since advised how to negate the pain and enhance the pleasure of gay sex. Furthermore, we have encouraged him in expanding his gay experiences. This is what we do. We who have converted support and strongly advocate gay conversion in all who are interested. Everyone involved realizes this means girlfriends must be relinquished. It's just inappropriate for us to determine when and how this severance should take place.

Our thread swells with the tales of men who have left women behind as they found greater happiness in being gay. Each has handled it as they saw-fit, and unless addressed, it is not our matter or concern.

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However, since then, we have discovered that Jacktag "liked it a lot. It just hurt." So we have since advised how to negate the pain and enhance the pleasure of gay sex. Furthermore, we have encouraged him in expanding his gay experiences. This is what we do. We who have converted support and strongly advocate gay conversion in all who are interested.

In that case, somebody should tell James Franco about CFG. :lol:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/09/james-franco-gay_n_3894154.html?ir=Gay+Voices