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Postby PopeFlax » March 17th, 2014, 5:31 am

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I'm actually looking forward to my penis shrinking as much as possible and my balls shriveling and going up inside me. :-D I'm just sitting here re-reading that sentence and thinking that there's something about that sentence that should be extremely weird and it isn't. :? There should be something about that that should bother me. It isn't bothering me and I'm wondering why I think it should bother me. I'm looking forward to it.


Wait, am I understanding you correctly?
Are you implying that you can't remember that penis shrinkage would usually be considered a bad thing?
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Postby OxyFemboi » March 17th, 2014, 8:23 am

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That happened to me with Stroke Sissy. I tried listening to it several times after I broke free of it. It still had some effects, but the magic of the compulsion was gone. I wonder if a file could be crafted to make you forget that you broke free of a file?


I really want the Jock compulsion to work again! I would definitely pay for such a file. I really would love for the jock files to work again, especially the way these non-jock files are working.

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I'm actually looking forward to my penis shrinking as much as possible and my balls shriveling and going up inside me. Very Happy I'm just sitting here re-reading that sentence and thinking that there's something about that sentence that should be extremely weird and it isn't. Confused There should be something about that that should bother me. It isn't bothering me and I'm wondering why I think it should bother me. I'm looking forward to it.

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Wait, am I understanding you correctly?
Are you implying that you can't remember that penis shrinkage would usually be considered a bad thing?


Uh, yeah, I think that might have been what was bothering me. I'm not sure. Why would penis shrinkage be a bad thing? I'm thrilled!

Oh yes. I measured my penis earlier today, March 17, 2014. my penis measurement is two and one-half inches (2.5") long. I lost another half inch. I'm not sure I can get an erection. I'm nut sure I want an erection.

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So curiosity got the best of me and I listened to this file. Sarnoga has a real talent for putting you in trance that's for damn sure. And the pleasurable suggestions could get you hooked really easily.

That being said I listened once and I'm not listening again.


Would you take some measurements and post them? And maybe again in a week or so? I'm wondering if you are as susceptible to hypnosis as I am ... and I stared responding fairly rapidly.

It may be too early to say "Welcome to the club" but I wish you'd join us.

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If only all files worked as well as this one.


Well, at least one other file does work as well. After a single listen to smaller2's Shrinking -- The Control Panel For Your Height I am two inches shorter. I measured myself this morning and I'm five feet ten inches (5'10"). I used to be six feet zero inches (6'0"). It's not my imagination, either. I used to be able to touch my eight foot ceiling by just reaching. Now I have to get on tip-toes and strain. I only did listen once -- two days ago -- but I did listen to Curse Prepubescent a few times as well.

My voice is much higher. I'm not a tenor any longer.
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Postby Alien4420 » March 17th, 2014, 1:35 pm

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oxdude wrote:
I'm actually looking forward to my penis shrinking as much as possible and my balls shriveling and going up inside me. Very Happy I'm just sitting here re-reading that sentence and thinking that there's something about that sentence that should be extremely weird and it isn't. Confused There should be something about that that should bother me. It isn't bothering me and I'm wondering why I think it should bother me. I'm looking forward to it.


Wait, am I understanding you correctly?
Are you implying that you can't remember that penis shrinkage would usually be considered a bad thing?


Uh, yeah, I think that might have been what was bothering me. I'm not sure. Why would penis shrinkage be a bad thing? I'm thrilled!


I had the same reaction you did. You expect to look down and be freaked out or at least bothered. But you aren't. Every time I look down I think the changes are cool. I think the file does a great job of making you want and like them.
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Postby NightKeyes » March 17th, 2014, 1:57 pm

I have a quick question, i've been thinking about listening to this file, but i just wanted to know what the difference is between the curse file and the non curse version?
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Postby Alien4420 » March 17th, 2014, 3:30 pm

Mostly, the text is the same, and they should produce the same results. But the curse version has suggestions like this:

"As you listen, the curse of this file sinks into your ears, your heart, and your mind. There it resides forever. Its effects are permanent. Even if you could set this file aside, the curse is already inside."

So if you like the idea of being forced, the curse version is the way to go, but if you think you might want to back out or only shrink part way, I'd use the other version (though there are no guarantees that this will be possible).
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Postby duality99 » March 17th, 2014, 5:10 pm

Would you take some measurements and post them? And maybe again in a week or so? I'm wondering if you are as susceptible to hypnosis as I am ... and I stared responding fairly rapidly.

It may be too early to say "Welcome to the club" but I wish you'd join us.


Sure. I'm not susceptible to hypnosis at all. I think part of that is because I've got anxiety issues. Even files I want to trance to I have trouble going under for.

Well if this could be reversed I'd try it out for sure. I just feel like shrinking my dick would have some serious problems with any potential relationships with women. Plus I feel like I switch between submissive and dominant, so I always have to balance these things.
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Postby Alien4420 » March 17th, 2014, 5:23 pm

duality99 wrote:Plus I feel like I switch between submissive and dominant, so I always have to balance these things.

I know what you're saying, I had many of the same thoughts initially. But as I listened they went away: I found that Teeny Weenie changes your sexual desires pretty quickly. :-) Something to do with, well, not being able to do anything. You have to adapt psychologically and you do.
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Postby PopeFlax » March 17th, 2014, 7:43 pm

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Uh, yeah, I think that might have been what was bothering me. I'm not sure. Why would penis shrinkage be a bad thing? I'm thrilled!



Sorry for pestering you with another question, but I'm really fascinated by the psychological changes that this file causes. And... it sounds to me like you've been affected particularly deeply. :)


This one's a hypothetical:

Let's say that there's a man, not you, but a random man with a 7 inch penis. Let's say he wakes up one morning to discover that his penis has magically, and permanently, shrunk to 3 inches during the night.

How do you think he would feel?
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Postby OxyFemboi » March 18th, 2014, 10:07 pm

My peepee length is currently two inches soft ... and I'm certain that I'm being generous. I'm not sure I can get hard any more. I think I will need to sit to pee shortly.

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I feel like I switch between submissive and dominant, so I always have to balance these things.


Well, that was never my problem. I'm naturally submissive. I'm epileptic; I take medication to control my grand mal seizures. Side effects include reducing/eliminating sex drive and making it extremely difficult to get an erection. I don't get "morning wood"; I've read about it, though. When I desire sex, I need to be the submissive partner.

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I had the same reaction you did. You expect to look down and be freaked out or at least bothered. But you aren't. Every time I look down I think the changes are cool. I think the file does a great job of making you want and like them.


I don't think I ever expected to be "freaked out" or "bothered". The changes are so fucking cool! I LOVE what's happening! I wanna tell the world ... this is so fucking cool!

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This one's a hypothetical:

Let's say that there's a man, not you, but a random man with a 7 inch penis. Let's say he wakes up one morning to discover that his penis has magically, and permanently, shrunk to 3 inches during the night.

How do you think he would feel?


He's thankful. Filled with joy. Happy. Very curious, thinking, "Huh, how did this happen?". I'm certain that he's turned on, since he's wanking in celebration ... and to test-drive his new equipment.

From the tone of your last post and this one, I'm positive that's not the answer you're looking for ... but it's my only reaction. I think you want me to respond with some sort of negative reaction, but ... that's almost impossible for me to imagine, like 2 + 2 = 5 being true.

If you know anything about the Myers-Briggs Personality Test, I'm an INFP. I'm extremely introspective and intuitive.
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Postby OxyFemboi » March 19th, 2014, 12:41 am

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Well if this could be reversed I'd try it out for sure.


Well, there is a non-curse version of this file at http://www.warpmymind.com/modules.php?name=FilesNewsys&act=fetch&nopage=1&link=10643.
Sarnoga says in the Comments to the Non-Curse version:
This is the NON Curse version of the Curse of The Teeny Weenie. Other than leaving out the curse it is the same file. Your balls will shrink and pull up into your body. Your penis will shrink until it is just a teeny weenie and it too will retract into your body. Your teeny weenie will not get hard but it will be extra sensitive as all the nerve endings will be condensed into a much smaller space. You will be compelled to masturbate by rubbing your nipples and will soon be having nipple orgasms. There are a few more details but it would be easier to post a script than to list them all. There are a few additional details listed in the comments on the curse file.


Sarnoga says in the Comments to the Curse version:
Do not be deceived by the title. There is nothing small about this curse, except what it leaves behind. Listen and receive the curse. This curse will turn your penis into a teeny weenie and shrink your balls. Your weenie and balls are cursed to shrink when you listen to my voice, shrink when you play with your weenie, shrink when you rub your nipples, shrink when you get aroused and shrink when you sleep. This file just keeps on working. Your teeny weenie will not get hard, but it will become more sensitive as all the nerves will be concentrated into a much smaller area. Your weenie and balls will become so small that they shrink back into your abdomen. The center and focus of your sexual pleasure will move from your genitals to your nipples. As this happens you will begin to have extended nipple orgasms that will build in pleasure, intensity and tension, but to relieve the tension you will need to play with your teeny weenie and have a weenie orgasm. You become obsessed with listening to my voice, rubbing your nipples, and playing with your teeny weenie. You feel compelled to do so at least twice a day. Hearing my voice, rubbing your nipples, playing with your teeny weenie, and sleeping are the triggers that cause your balls and weenie to continue to shrink. Each time you do one of these things your balls and weenie shrink a little more until your balls and weenie are so small they have pulled back inside your body and the visible external part of your teeny weenie will be no more than a small wrinkled protrusion of foreskin. The effects of this file are cumulative and irreversible. As your balls and weenie shrink the pleasure of your nipple orgasms increase. The nipple orgasms become so pleasurable that all you desire is for your balls and weenie to shrink even more in the hope of maximizing the pleasure and duration of your nipple orgasms.


I do not know how easy it would be to stop listening to either version. I'm the wrong person to ask about this. I wanted the change before I started listening. Your attitude about having a teeny weenie might change.

You should read the comments on both files. Some people ask, "Is this permanent?". Nobody answers the question. I suspect an answer might be "You don't recover what you lost, but you might not lose any more." However, one of the triggers for shrinkage is sleep, so ... who knows?

One person comments that Teeny Weenie and Curse Prepubescent might be synergistic. That sounds reasonable.
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Postby PopeFlax » March 19th, 2014, 12:59 am

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He's thankful. Filled with joy. Happy. Very curious, thinking, "Huh, how did this happen?". I'm certain that he's turned on, since he's wanking in celebration ... and to test-drive his new equipment.

From the tone of your last post and this one, I'm positive that's not the answer you're looking for ... but it's my only reaction. I think you want me to respond with some sort of negative reaction, but ... that's almost impossible for me to imagine, like 2 + 2 = 5 being true.


I'm actually very pleased by your response. Although, it's perhaps not the response I would have expected. Nor, I think, the response I personally would have given to that question.

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My peepee length is currently two inches soft ... and I'm certain that I'm being generous. I'm not sure I can get hard any more. I think I will need to sit to pee shortly.


I suppose first of all I should congratulate you on your shrinkage. Well done.


Perhaps I was slightly over the top, in my first post. After all, there's clearly a lot of men here who are dedicated to shrinking their dicks as much as possible, so penis shrinkage definitely isn't universally bad. But I still suspect that a lot of men wouldn't want their dicks to shrink.

You've been quite forthcoming with me, so let me give you some of the reasons that I think some men might not be so thrilled by penis shrinkage:


- A small penis might make sex more difficult (at the very least it probably limits the number of positions that can be performed).

- A heterosexual man might be afraid that he couldn't please a woman with a teeny weenie.

- Remember those spam emails that everyone gets? The ones that claim to be selling penis-enhancing pills? Why would those exist unless some men wanted bigger, and not smaller, dicks?

- Most men in porn have large penises, which seems to imply that large dicks are considered attractive. If this is the case, then wouldn't a lot of men want to avoid shrinking their cocks?

- A teeny weenie seems quite submissive. Dominant men might want to avoid shrinkage.

- Smaller balls, might mean less sperm and less testosterone. A lot of men might not be too eager to shrink, if it threatened their fertility or masculinity.

- I definitely think I've seen an attitude before in a lot of men, that a bigger dick is generally better. Do you think I'm wrong about this?



So what do you think? Does any of the above make sense to you? Or is it still inconceivable that anyone might want to avoid shrinking?

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If you know anything about the Myers-Briggs Personality Test, I'm an INFP. I'm extremely introspective and intuitive.


Snap! I'm an INFP as well. But our intuitions differ quite strongly, I can see. So I'm really curious as to what you'll make of the arguments I gave above.

I haven't listened to this file, but I'm absolutely fascinated by it.
I look forward to seeing your response.
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Postby NightKeyes » March 19th, 2014, 4:14 am

So in a heat of passion last night I gave in and listened to the non - curse version of the file, to say the least when I woke up this morning I realized how much I didn't want this to happen , so game plan is to listen to deprogram all for the next week or so, also any advice ??
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Postby OxyFemboi » March 19th, 2014, 4:29 am

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I'm actually very pleased by your response. Although, it's perhaps not the response I would have expected. Nor, I think, the response I personally would have given to that question.


I'm glad you're pleased by my response. I suppose it was fairly predictable from my previous posts.

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I suppose first of all I should congratulate you on your shrinkage. Well done.


Thanks for the congratulations. You have no idea how much I appreciate your support.

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Perhaps I was slightly over the top, in my first post.


Perhaps. I re-edit posts until every word I use carries the message I want ... courteously, if possible.

This post is running quite long now, so I won't quote your reasons why some men might not be thrilled with penis shrinkage. Some seem quite sound. It's the age-old problem of inductive and deductive reasoning -- in this case, deductive reasoning, which is reasoning from the general to the particular.

You lack several pieces of information concerning me.
1) I'm a gay male who is a bottom (in your usage, submissive).
2) I have grand mal epilepsy, which is controlled quite well with medication.
3) My medications have side effects which make it nearly impossible to get an erection as well as damping my sex drive to nearly zero. My drive to go out prowling for a sexual conquest is vastly lower than a "normal" man, much less the hypersexual dudes portrayed in porn.

In my case:
1.) A small penis makes it less likely I will be asked to perform as a top (dominant role) when my medications make that nearly impossible.
2.) Being gay, I have no interest in pleasing a woman.
3.) Certainly I remember those penis enlargement spam e-mails; I delete them every day. However, some men want larger dicks does not imply that all men want larger dicks; it does imply that some men are satisfied with their dick size or that some men want smaller dicks.
4.) I have seen some gay porn. Who hasn't? However, the written word interests me more than visual representations. Most of the performers in porn with huge cocks are dominant. I'm submissive; while I would like a huge cock up my ass, it does not necessarily follow that I want to own one.
5.) I am a submissive male -- the bottom -- in a gay relationship. However, a submissive attitude in the bedroom does not imply submission in any other aspect of life.
6.) One of the effects of my medication is to depress my testosterone levels. Thus the low sex drive, inability to get an erection, etc. I probably was not fertile before using this file. I'm also quite effeminate -- see the definition of "femboy" -- http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=femboy -- especially definition two.
7.) This attitude does seem prevalent in most men. However, in my case, bigger would mean that I would be asked to top. I can't, so .... Having a smaller penis -- a micropenis -- eliminates that possibility.

Your reasoning did make sense to me. The applicability of those reasons to me was where the fault lay.

Since we are both INFP, I do not need to reword everything for you. Mom was ESTJ, so I can use other modalities when needed.

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Postby Alien4420 » March 19th, 2014, 6:29 am

NightKeyes wrote:So in a heat of passion last night I gave in and listened to the non - curse version of the file, to say the least when I woke up this morning I realized how much I didn't want this to happen , so game plan is to listen to deprogram all for the next week or so, also any advice ??

Doesn't Deprogram All affect only EMG's files? Someone who listened to Teeny Weenie twice had good results with a file of Tangy's, I'll try to get the name from him. Though if you don't want the results, I don't think a single listen to the non-curse version is going to be a problem for most.
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Postby Marian » March 19th, 2014, 6:48 am

Yes. Even the course had have no effect on me because I dident like a part of it ...
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Postby Alien4420 » March 19th, 2014, 7:01 am

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I do not know how easy it would be to stop listening to either version. I'm the wrong person to ask about this. I wanted the change before I started listening. Your attitude about having a teeny weenie might change.

You should read the comments on both files. Some people ask, "Is this permanent?". Nobody answers the question. I suspect an answer might be "You don't recover what you lost, but you might not lose any more." However, one of the triggers for shrinkage is sleep, so ... who knows?

The Curse Version tells you that you'll keep losing whether you listen to the file or not, and, judging by what's happened, that often seems to be the case. I'd look at it as a one-way trip although based on what people have said some people are able to throw it off after listening briefly.

I think that's less likely with the non-curse version in the early stages, if you don't want to shrink. Stop listening, you'll stop shrinking. If you do want to shrink it will probably continue to happen as it did in my case after two listenings. However, the non-curse version will eventually make you want all the effects and it does have some milder compulsions to listen, so if you listen long enough it will have the same effect.

In my case, after two weeks of 2x daily, I was only able to stop listening and have regular ejaculations briefly, I ended up going right back to the weenie orgasms and listening again. Now, 2 weeks later, I want to lose it all, whereas before that I just wanted to shrink and was scared of going too far.

I tried getting hard yesterday for the first time in 2 weeks because I wanted to measure my erect length and at first I couldn't. The weird thing is that it stretched out when I stroked, I hadn't expected that, but it was totally floppy and soft, like a piece of spaghetti. And the even more amazing thing is that I was loving the fact that I couldn't get hard. Eventually, after several minutes of stroking, it gradually got sort of hard and I was able to measure, but it's clear that I'm at the point where I'm going to lose that if I continue. I tell myself that this is at the permanence stage and I shouldn't go further but I know I'm just going to listen again and unlike two weeks ago I just don't have any desire to get hard and jack off.

So I think if you listen for a while, the non-curse version will take you to exactly the same place as the curse version by different means.

I should point out that my erect length yesterday was about the same as it had been a month ago. Also, from prior experience, if you start jacking off, it will bulk up some. So many of the effects are just from not getting hard. However, my balls are a lot smaller and that's probably permanent, along with the reduction in testosterone level. You can take supplements but whether you can restart the hypothalamic–pituitary–gonadal axis is questionable. An endocrinologist might be able to, or not, no one has tried.

In practice, no one I know of has been able to reverse the shrinkage or regain function once that's lost, which seems to occur when erect length falls below about 3". But also that no one who's gotten to that stage has expressed regret, the file makes you want the results.
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Postby Alien4420 » March 19th, 2014, 7:29 am

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NightKeyes wrote:So in a heat of passion last night I gave in and listened to the non - curse version of the file, to say the least when I woke up this morning I realized how much I didn't want this to happen , so game plan is to listen to deprogram all for the next week or so, also any advice ??

Doesn't Deprogram All affect only EMG's files? Someone who listened to Teeny Weenie twice had good results with a file of Tangy's, I'll try to get the name from him. Though if you don't want the results, I don't think a single listen to the non-curse version is going to be a problem for most.


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Postby OxyFemboi » March 20th, 2014, 6:11 am

NightKeyes wrote:
So in a heat of passion last night I gave in and listened to the non - curse version of the file, to say the least when I woke up this morning I realized how much I didn't want this to happen , so game plan is to listen to deprogram all for the next week or so, also any advice ??


Congratulations. My first suggestion is to take some measurements and upload them to this Forum. Then you want to avoid Sarnoga's triggers while you're listening to DeprogramAll, which was written at least ten years ago and may or may not work on non-EMG files.

The triggers that I remember from the file are playing with your weenie, playing with your nipples, and sleeping. So ... don't wank, don't play with your nipples, and don't sleep until you see if DeProgramAll works.

If you were ever interested in or fantasized about being castrated, you may have a problem. I had a friend who was as fascinated with the Jock files as I was; he had castration fantasies in his teenage years. He downloaded TrainTotalJock, used it, and got good results. A computer nerd "friend" who was extremely disgusted hearing about super workouts, sports exploits, and sexual conquests (and nothing else) -- "dumb jocks" are often inconsiderate like this -- offered to make a Grock hypnosis file for him. He got the file and used it; his friend has added something extra. Mixed in with TrainTotalJock suggestions were suggestions from CursePenisShrink. Both sets of suggestions worked well. His cock started shrinking ... and shrinking ... and shrinking. He tried EMG's Curse Removal file; it didn't work on the combined files.

Those penis shrinking suggestions had found fertile ground in his teenage castration fantasies. It took several years of working with a psychiatrist to banish the castration fantasies. The shrinkage was eventually arrested. He never got the size back. The jock file worked wonders. He went from being a fat (his word) out-of-shape Realtor to being a built-like-a-brick-shithouse carpenter who built houses and, yes, he's dumb as a post.

I also have castration fantasies. That is probably why Teeny Weenie is working so well. I begged for a copy of that Grock file; he refused. I wish he had sent it. I knew what I wanted. He didn't want to inflict this horror on me. He refused to believe that I wanted to be afflicted. I spent a very long year or so researching castration and reading castration erotica from places like www.eunuch.org. I didn't follow through, mainly because I didn't have the money that one black-market doctor was charging.

I wish I could help more. Please keep us informed on what happens.
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Postby OxyFemboi » March 20th, 2014, 6:24 am

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Sarnoga wrote in his comments to the Curse version:

Hearing Sarnoga's voice, rubbing your nipples, playing with your teeny weenie, and sleeping are the triggers that cause your balls and weenie to continue to shrink.

The triggers are probably the same in the non-Curse version. So ... you might not want to listen to any of Sarnoga's files.
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Postby Alien4420 » March 20th, 2014, 9:25 am

Yeah, there are suggestions like that in the non-curse version and I'm not sure how much of an effect that has but it would probably be best to avoid Sargnoga's voice.

I was trying to figure out how much of this is psychological (suggestion) and how much physiological, so yesterday I tried getting hard again to see if it would happen any faster than it had the day before. As it turned out, it didn't, it still took me forever to get semi-hard. I did get the sense that a lot of that was the suggestion, since to get hard I felt like I had to circumvent it mentally. But I've also noticed that my flaccid size increased from 2-1/2"-3" to 3-3/8" after I got had the day before yesterday and also my penis got a bit of its bulk back. So that part seems to be physiological.

Also, my balls continue to retract. This is exciting, the progress is so pronounced that it's obvious from day to day. I'm beginning to think that they'll actually end up living inside, as the file promises. I'm wondering if that happened to the guys who are further along?

Also, I can't have normal ejaculations anymore. My hand won't even move down to try. I still have some doubts but my subconscious just doesn't want to do it anymore.
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Postby OxyFemboi » March 20th, 2014, 9:34 am

I really need to stay away from my Tumblr -- http://furfagfemboi-wolfy.tumblr.com -- blog. I was just on there and saw this picture of two wrestler hunks and I felt my weenie contract! What a great feeling! I want to do it more ... and more ... and more.

I haven't noticed my balls retracting yet.
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Postby Alien4420 » March 20th, 2014, 11:04 am

It's taken quite a while for me. I'm something like 2-1/2 months (?) in.
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Postby PopeFlax » March 21st, 2014, 12:06 am

Hello Oxdude. I think there may have been a slight miscommunication between us.

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Your reasoning did make sense to me. The applicability of those reasons to me was where the fault lay.


I realise those arguments don't apply to you. I was just trying to point out that they might apply to the random man, in our little hypothetical example.


I think I'll probably stop pestering you about this now, before we get too sidelined. Sorry if I caused any confusion.

Anyway, good luck with shrinking your teeny weenie. I'm still holding out hope that you'll get below 1 inch.

And get retracted balls, of course. :)
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Postby Alien4420 » March 21st, 2014, 10:21 am

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I realise those arguments don't apply to you. I was just trying to point out that they might apply to the random man, in our little hypothetical example.

I think it's safe to say based on my experience and what others have said this that it's possible to be happy with a large cock and also like the idea of losing it. Also, that if you listen to Teeny Weenie for a while you will eventually want to lose it even if you didn't at the start. I know it's made a big change in what I want, from wanting to shrink some but being scared of and wanting to stop before losing functionality to loving the fact that I can't get hard.
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Postby OxyFemboi » March 22nd, 2014, 3:09 am

PopeFlax wrote:
I realize those arguments don't apply to you. I was just trying to point out that they might apply to the random man, in our little hypothetical example.

You were not the only person who made an error. I also made an error in induction -- reasoning from the particular to the general -- when I assumed that my experience and that of this small -- and extremely similar -- group was applicable to a much larger group.

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I think I'll probably stop pestering you about this now, before we get too sidelined. Sorry if I caused any confusion.

Don't go on my account. I appreciate the dialogue. As long as you're not strident about anything, I believe this group can survive your input.

I'm assuming from your name that you have read and appreciated Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson's Illuminatus! trilogy (and possibly some of their other books) as much as I have. Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia!

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Anyway, good luck with shrinking your teeny weenie. I'm still holding out hope that you'll get below 1 inch.

And get retracted balls, of course. :-)

Thank you kindly for your gracious wishes! From your mouth to god's ears.... I hope this becomes so! I want to become as small as is humanly possible.

Do you know -- or does anybody know -- what the minimal size for a penis is? Can it possibly shrink so far that there is nothing left but a hole to pee through?

Interestingly enough, I know a straight person with an extremely large (I believe he said ten inches soft) cock. He has told me of some of the problems he has with it, such as when sitting on the toilet, it hands down in the toilet water. Also, when many females see it, they're scared that this giant will tear their vagina (or whatever it's called; I didn't pay attention in anatomy class). As for finding jocks and underwear that fit, there are very few brands, they're expensive, and they are all "special order".

He might be interested in losing a few inches (to be on the extra large side of average, say eight inches) but I don't think he wants to lose it all. I told him what I'm doing. I haven't gotten any comments back yet.
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Postby Alien4420 » March 22nd, 2014, 7:38 am

oxdude wrote:

Do you know -- or does anybody know -- what the minimal size for a penis is? Can it possibly shrink so far that there is nothing left but a hole to pee through?

Yes, I've read that this sometimes happens to eunuchs after a long period of disuse. If you look back in the thread you'll find some links to a small penis site that Mistress Squirrel posted and you'll see guys who are that small.

I'm curious to know if anyone here has achieved that with TW -- I know some guys have almost nothing left but it seems the head is still sticking out.

Weight can have a bit effect, heavy guys have fat around their shaft and that makes it shorter or disappear.


He might be interested in losing a few inches (to be on the extra large side of average, say eight inches) but I don't think he wants to lose it all. I told him what I'm doing. I haven't gotten any comments back yet.

Several accounts here of guys who listened to TW briefly and stopped but didn't go back to full size. I know I never have even when I got hard. So I think this could work for him but I'd warn against using even the non-curse version for more than a few weeks because eventually you want to lose it all and just keep going.

I posted an idea for a file that would let you lose an inch at a time for people who don't want to go all the way. I'm a bit skeptical now as to whether it would work reliably because it seems that only some of the shrinkage is physical, I seem to have lost a couple of inches hard but the rest of it is just not getting hard, or fully hard.
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Postby OxyFemboi » March 22nd, 2014, 8:39 am

My Texas friend wants to become a redneck jock (think Duck Dynasty survivalist). I doubt he would even consider this file when the file obviously lowers Test levels.

He is well on the way to becoming the uber-masucline redneck survivalist of his wet dreams while I'm well on the road to becoming ultra-feminine. He first wrote me because he was interested in why I wanted to become a dumb jock. He got inspired by my desires. I determined recently that overcoming the dumbness suggestion -- obviously in a Curse-breaking way -- derailed any jock suggestions.

Ironic, isn't it?
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Postby Alien4420 » March 22nd, 2014, 9:42 am

LOL, yeah.

Sounds to me like you need a smart, small-dicked jock file. I've seen some pictures of very hunky guys who had really small dicks. And not every jock is dumb, though admittedly, I'm having trouble thinking of a jock who isn't.
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Postby OxyFemboi » March 23rd, 2014, 7:27 am

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Sounds to me like you need a smart, small-dicked jock file. I've seen some pictures of very hunky guys who had really small dicks. And not every jock is dumb, though admittedly, I'm having trouble thinking of a jock who isn't.


Exactly. I think that I could produce such a script by adapting ViVe's Feminine Conditioning file by substituting "jock" for "feminine" and making any other needed changes. I suspect there won't be many changes needed.

Since ViVe's file works with your own concept of "masculine" and "feminine", I wouldn't even need to define what a jock is or does.
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Postby Alien4420 » March 23rd, 2014, 7:36 am

Do you have a text to speech program? It's easy to adapt files that way, just alter the script and let the reader read it.
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Postby OxyFemboi » March 23rd, 2014, 7:57 am

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. First, I have to transcribe and adapt the file to produce the script.

Alien wrote:
Do you have a text to speech program?

Considering all the negative comments I've read about the synthesized, non-human voices of text-to-speech programs, I'd rather produce the script, upload it, and then ask a hypnotist friend to record it. I'd probably ask luggy to record a jock file.
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Postby Alien4420 » March 23rd, 2014, 8:59 am

I didn't know there wasn't a script available.

I've listened to a bunch of TTS files and I've found that they work just fine. All are to some extent mechanical, but that doesn't seem to interfere with trance and it's a great way to tailor files or create your own.

Which isn't to say that having a friend read the file isn't a good strategy, for those who have that option. And I've seen some people say that your own voice is best of all, since you naturally trust it -- I've never tried that myself.

For TTS, the Ivona voices are best. Check out Mistress Squirrel's no penis loop for an example of a file made with one of the better Ivona voices. (Its basically compatible with Teeny Weenie but I'd edit out the suggestion about not feeling anything in your cock if you actually want to loop it, rather than just checking it out, since it seems to me that that could interfere with the weenie orgasms). I don't think anyone would have trouble with that voice. It isn't quite perfect, but it's a far cry from the hard-to-understand mechanical voices with which most are familiar.
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Postby bostonmarc » March 23rd, 2014, 9:07 am

What ever happened to Mistress Squirrel? She was great on here we miss her.
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Postby Alien4420 » March 23rd, 2014, 9:26 am

Really. My theory is that when she'd shrunk me she realized that her life's work had been accomplished and retired.
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Postby KIY » March 24th, 2014, 7:39 am

Where could I find the Ivona TTS software?
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Postby OxyFemboi » March 25th, 2014, 5:05 am

Alien wrote:
I've listened to a bunch of TTS files and I've found that they work just fine. All are to some extent mechanical, but that doesn't seem to interfere with trance and it's a great way to tailor files or create your own.

Which isn't to say that having a friend read the file isn't a good strategy, for those who have that option. And I've seen some people say that your own voice is best of all, since you naturally trust it -- I've never tried that myself.


Well, since I'm using various shrinkage files -- Curse Prepubescent, Shrinking, and Teeny Weenie -- my voice has already ascended toward the higher octaves. When I answer the telephone, nobody believes I am a male now. Not that I mind ... much.

I have neither good recording equipment nor a good recording environment: my apartment is next to the boiler room for the entire apartment building.
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Postby Alien4420 » March 25th, 2014, 9:31 am

KIY wrote:Where could I find the Ivona TTS software?


Here's their website:

http://www.ivona.com/us/voices/

There are also some other TTS programs that offer the Ivona voices, e.g., Text Speaker:

http://www.deskshare.com/text-to-speech-voices.aspx

Mistress Squirrel uses Ivona 2 Amy on her no penis loop -- it's a female voice with a British accent, and it seems to be the best of them. Joey is a male American voice that's pretty good, though it isn't as natural as Amy -- none of the male voices seem to be.

I'm not sure which TTS program is best -- it's hard to find useful reviews. I need a new one myself, my old one doesn't work very well on Windows 8.1. If anyone has experience with them, I'd appreciate a recommendation.
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Postby KIY » March 25th, 2014, 12:19 pm

Thanks!
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Postby Alien4420 » March 25th, 2014, 12:27 pm

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Well, since I'm using various shrinkage files -- Curse Prepubescent, Shrinking, and Teeny Weenie -- my voice has already ascended toward the higher octaves. When I answer the telephone, nobody believes I am a male now. Not that I mind ... much.

That's pretty cool, actually.
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Postby mikethedonnie » March 25th, 2014, 6:51 pm

how many listens did it take for you to notice any significant change. I stopped listening for awhile and things returned to normal for now. Now I want to listen again. I remember when I first started listening consistently I felt like a rubber band snap along the entire length of the shaft during the first listen and then had a constant tingling sensation. I tried to jerk off later that night and never got fully hard.
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Postby OxyFemboi » March 25th, 2014, 8:15 pm

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how many listens did it take for you to notice any significant change. I stopped listening for awhile and things returned to normal for now. Now I want to listen again.


I don't know. My first post about Teeny Weenie was Tue Mar 11, 2014 at 6:01 pm. I stated then that "I just started listening." That was a literal statement. I started listening while I was writing that comment. I know I listened a few -- three or four -- times each day while I was on the computer. Three times per day till my first post of loss of length.

Alien wrote:
I remember when I first started listening consistently, I felt like a rubber band snap along the entire length of the shaft during the first listen and then had a constant tingling sensation. I tried to jerk off later that night and never got fully hard.


I haven't felt that ... yet. I got hard the other night and was so upset! I felt betrayed, if that makes sense. I'll have to listen without doing anything else until that happens.
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Postby xavious » March 26th, 2014, 4:27 am

Edit: Apologies for the unwarranted off-topic post. I didn't realise it was until others brought it up.

I've removed the offending text as not to disrupt.
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Postby OxyFemboi » March 26th, 2014, 3:36 pm

Re the alleged the topic of the forum: I measured my peepee this morning. I am now the proud possessor of a 1.5 inch weenie! My weenie has shrunk considerably from when I first started --March 11, 2014 -- to today. I just thought I should keep you updated.

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... my own voice isn't that relaxing.

I have written files and recorded them for my own amusement. The equipment was horrid and I could not even recognize my own voice. According to people I've talked to, nobody finds their own voice either recognizable or relaxing.

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I find British accents hard to relax to.

I love British accents. I've always been charmed by a strange accent. So prim and proper and all that rot. I do much better with a male hypnotist's voice than a female voice as well. We all have our own quirks and personal preferences.

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I've tried recording my own voice in the past for a few personal files that involve very strange topics nobody else would probably care for.

Have you seen some of the topics for files that have been recorded for this site? Have you read the suggestions from the voting list? You really think your own personal files that involve very strange topics would not interest anybody from with this site? *giggle*
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Postby Alien4420 » March 26th, 2014, 5:09 pm

xavious wrote:I can't stand synthesised voices for actual files. I have a program and a "realistic" male voice that I like to use for proofreading and hearing back how things I write sound (as well as having him tell me some dark fantasies I've written hehe), but I wouldn't use it for actual files.

I've tried recording my own voice in the past for a few personal files that involve very strange topics nobody else would probably care for, but my recording equipment has never been the best and my own voice isn't that relaxing. Maybe it's just personal preference, but I find British accents hard to relax to. American and Australian seem to be the best because they sound less "proper" and more relaxed and laid back in their pronunciation.

I really think my voice would be distracting more than anything.

It seems to be an individual thing. I've had good success with some synthetic voice files -- no way of telling whether they're more or less successful than they would be with a human voice. I personally find the British female voice very dominating and authoritarian, and I like that. :-) But the main reason I mentioned that British voice here is that it seems to be better than the male and American voices. I think I'd probably go with a male American voice for my own files, but I'm tolerant of the occasional voice synthesis glitch. It's the cheap voices that are hard to understand that I have trouble with.
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Postby Alien4420 » March 26th, 2014, 5:18 pm

oxdude wrote:Re the alleged the topic of the forum: I measured my peepee this morning. I am now the proud possessor of a 1.5 inch weenie!

Wow, I'm jealous. Mine shrank to 2-1/2"-3" and won't budge from there. My balls continued to retract nicely, though.

Not sure what to do next, the limpness suggestion was working great and I was getting turned on by it -- which was unexpected since that's a side effect I was scared of -- but when I tried to stroke my weenie was so limp that it had the consistency of spaghetti and it stretched out in my hand like a deflated balloon! And then, all of the sudden, out of the blue, I looked at some porn, got hard, and came hard for the first time in I think three weeks.

I can still have the weenie orgasms, though, if I want and sometimes the shrinking suggestion is in force, sometimes I can just come normally.

So not sure what to do now. I'm afraid I'm not going to get more weenie shrinkage but I'm pretty happy with the shrinkage that occurred. So I'm thinking maybe just work on getting my balls to disappear, but I haven't figured out how to do that. Maybe just listen to Teeny Weenie for another month, or maybe make a file with those suggestions in it?

Of course, if someone can tell me how to shrink my weenie more, I'm all for it.
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Postby OxyFemboi » March 26th, 2014, 5:52 pm

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I'm afraid I'm not going to get more weenie shrinkage but I'm pretty happy with the shrinkage that occurred. So I'm thinking maybe just work on getting my balls to disappear, but I haven't figured out how to do that.


You will get more weenie shrinkage if you believe it. I was concerned because I had been getting strange measurements -- one time it would be 1.5 inches, the next time it was 2.0, then 1.75. It varied but stayed within a certain range.

I decided to examine what I felt how big "weenie" was. I thought of that one brand of beans and franks, and decided that was just a brand name; it didn't apply to how weenie a weenie was. "Weenie" meant something a lot shorter to me that those smallish hot dogs (though they make a good meal).

And today my peepee was a consistent 1.5 inches.

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I can still have the weenie orgasms, though, if I want and sometimes the shrinking suggestion is in force.


My suggestion: induce the weenie orgasms. Play with your nipples and have nipple orgasms. Play with the head of your weenie and enjoy the weenie orgasms. Don't try to induce an "ordinary" orgasm or cum. Forget about coming normally. Just enjoy the ways Sarnoga suggests: play with your nipples and rub the top of your weenie. You won't be thinking about trying to grow again if you do this.

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Wow, I'm jealous. Mine shrank to 2-1/2"-3" and won't budge from there. My balls continued to retract nicely, though.


Don't worry about being envious. You'll soon be shorter than me. I'm envious that your balls are retracting and mine aren't ... yet. But they will, they will. I KNOW it!
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Postby Ranmathreefourths » March 26th, 2014, 6:38 pm

Alien4420 wrote:
So I'm thinking maybe just work on getting my balls to disappear, but I haven't figured out how to do that. Maybe just listen to Teeny Weenie for another month, or maybe make a file with those suggestions in it?

Have you tried the masturbation castration file?
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Postby Alien4420 » March 27th, 2014, 8:45 am

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I'm afraid I'm not going to get more weenie shrinkage but I'm pretty happy with the shrinkage that occurred. So I'm thinking maybe just work on getting my balls to disappear, but I haven't figured out how to do that.


You will get more weenie shrinkage if you believe it. I was concerned because I had been getting strange measurements -- one time it would be 1.5 inches, the next time it was 2.0, then 1.75. It varied but stayed within a certain range.

I decided to examine what I felt how big "weenie" was. I thought of that one brand of beans and franks, and decided that was just a brand name; it didn't apply to how weenie a weenie was. "Weenie" meant something a lot shorter to me that those smallish hot dogs (though they make a good meal).

And today my peepee was a consistent 1.5 inches.


That's an idea. When mine stopped shrinking, I got frustrated and started asking myself whether I'd hit my limit. Not everyone shrinks to nothing. Started listening again for another 3 weeks and then measured and hadn't shrunk more. So I started thinking well maybe I'm in the gradual phase where I'd have to do this for another year to lose another inch, and that's a bit investment in time, at least 1-1/2 hours a day, for an uncertain outcome.

I think also there's some resistance, remember that I didn't start this with the intention of shrinking all the way and losing all my functionality. That's why I didn't listen to the curse version. The file was winning towards the end and I started to want to shrink all the way and not get hard, but then my subconscious rebelled. Right now it's a tug-of-war -- sometimes I can get hard, sometimes I can't and stay soft and get weenie orgasms. Actually, having both isn't half bad. :-)

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I can still have the weenie orgasms, though, if I want and sometimes the shrinking suggestion is in force.


My suggestion: induce the weenie orgasms. Play with your nipples and have nipple orgasms. Play with the head of your weenie and enjoy the weenie orgasms. Don't try to induce an "ordinary" orgasm or cum. Forget about coming normally. Just enjoy the ways Sarnoga suggests: play with your nipples and rub the top of your weenie. You won't be thinking about trying to grow again if you do this.

This is what I was doing the last month or so. It works and I think it would work again if I started listening to the file and stopped looking at porn. The reason it stopped working is that I read an article on bi guys and got turned on by the idea of being bi. And when I think about sex with women, I naturally think my organ has to be hard. Well, bi isn't realistic for me at this point, I can think that would be nice but when I actually look at pix of women I end up bored. However, I looked at some couples porn and the damage was done, I got hard and suddenly had to come. Now when I look at guys half the time I get hard and once that happens, I fight off the TW suggestions because the need to come is so strong.
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Wow, I'm jealous. Mine shrank to 2-1/2"-3" and won't budge from there. My balls continued to retract nicely, though.


Don't worry about being envious. You'll soon be shorter than me. I'm envious that your balls are retracting and mine aren't ... yet. But they will, they will. I KNOW it!

Oh, they definitely will! It seems to be the slowest part of the process. Whatever happens, I'm going to work on that suggestion, because I know it was still working. And it hasn't reversed since I've been having the regular orgasms, my balls are still close in, my left one is actually part of the way in the inguinal canal much of the time. In fact, reading and responding to this, my scrotum has started to tingle and tighten up.
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Postby Alien4420 » March 27th, 2014, 8:50 am

Ranmathreefourths wrote:
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So I'm thinking maybe just work on getting my balls to disappear, but I haven't figured out how to do that. Maybe just listen to Teeny Weenie for another month, or maybe make a file with those suggestions in it?

Have you tried the masturbation castration file?

No, but that's a great idea, thanks. I've seen it around but for some reason had never read the description.
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Postby OxyFemboi » March 27th, 2014, 11:57 pm

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I didn't listen to the curse version.


Maybe you should switch to the curse version. That way you'd be listening to a different file ... and you might start shrinking again.
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