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Lilith wrote
could this file help if someone has a tulpa but is having trouble to fully manifest them or wouldif just create a new personality instead?
pczelda wrote:Hey everyone been quite a while since I've been here, and I've missed talking to my friends here, hope everyone is doing well.
I have some questions I wanted to ask of anyone willing to answer/who has been in situations like I'm wondering about.
1) Those of you who have to hide the new personality from most/all people you interact with, of anyone like that who knows you well (let's say friend A), even if [she (your alternate personality)] isn't out at the time, has said someone (friend A) been able to tell anything different about you/your personality (as a whole), etc? That could be a potential problem to anyone considering the use of this file.
2) Any of you who can't let [her] take control much, (have a job or family that's very demanding of your time etc) to the point where you'd only be able to relinquish control rarely and/or for very short periods of time, where you'd have to take back control immediately at a mere family member calling your name or your job suddenly calling on the phone, what do you do? How does [she] take this?
3) I'm sure everything's not perfect, even though this file is an alternate [extremely feminine] personality formed from and based on your personality, have you had any fights where you don't get along? This could be a potentially scary aspect of this file, because no matter how well the file is worded, eventually things could potentially go wrong, and there's no way you 2 can be separated, while I'm sure one of you can take time out and stay separate and hidden for a while, it might still be awkward at times because you'd both know the other is extremely close by always.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
JackDrago wrote:There are four of us (all male as we made our own files) and relatively few people know all of us. Our AA sponsor can tell us at a glance and pretty much instantly tell who is out. Our spouse insists that everyone but Jack, the primary, stays hidden, though he will sometimes talk to the jock alter Butch as he works out. Our hypnotist alter pretty much only comes out to trance people and the subjects just think "oh, he is doing his hypnotic voice now. "
Beast here: Butch and I both do a really good Jack impression, nobody has to know if we don't want them to. We all have our own friends (thank Satan) and people who know me usually think Jack is shy and over-educated compared to how I express myself. People who know Jack see me as a mischievous or sometimes evil look in the eyes.
Yo @pczelda! Butch here. Dude! Sometimes it's tough when we have to switch too fast. I can get a real bad headache if Jack switches in too fast. I dunno about the trance that you guys use, bro, but ours has a feature called "shining through" where I can just step out of the way for a second to let Jack talk, then take back over as if nothing happened.
Like, if I am working out, man, and Jack's husband has a question only Jack can answer, I ain't gotta switch all the way out, bro, I can just let him shine through a sec and go back to my business.
By the way, dude, don't get an alter if you ain't gonna be committed to letting her out, bro. It sucks to be locked away in somebody else's head. Beast was locked in 7 years, man, and it drove him fucking nuts until Jack finally agreed to let him out.
It all depends on the trance that you are doing and what you happen to have supressed in your subconscious. "Manly Spirit", the file that I used to create Butch specifically says that he is my other half, built to get along with me and programmed to support me and mentor me into increasing manhood. My subconscious has never failed to live up to the text of the trance in his behavior.
We're equal and opposite by design, and neither of us feels like a whole person without the other. We are each strong where the other is weak; he's a dumb jock, I am a nerdy genius; I am lazy about housework and personal appearance, he loves to fix things and dress us up like a manly metalhead biker.
We get along, bro. It's kinda like being married but even more intimate, man. In the year that I have been alive, dude, we've really only had a couple of fights. I fucked up real bad when I was about 3 months old, bro, and I considered self-supressing and just going away from consciousness, but Jack decided that he didn't want to live without me, so I stayed and he wrote a trance to fix me and make me permanent.
Dude! I ain't saying that it's always easy, bro, or that we always agree on shit 'Cuz we don't, but we talk inside a lot and we can pretty much always come to an accommodation. With 4 of us, we gotta be a bit more formal about governing ourselves, man. Our body don't belong exclusively to any one of us, so the rules are nobody can hurt the body or make any permanent changes to our life without the consent of the rest of us, bro.
We actually do have a mechanism for dealing with one of us being unfit for being in the body. There's a cage that we can go to in our mind if we don't want to participate or the rest of us can send us to if we are in an unsafe state of mind. I personally have been sent to the cage on more than one occasion to keep me from drinking or harming the body.
Lilith_Kuraihime wrote:I listened to the file again and it seems to have helped me hear her voice better. we started to have conversations more often. we haven't really switched places since we haven't a need to. we had tried once but we weren't successful, also she gives advice and can only use my arms. She seems to be a bit more obsessive/protective over me though.
Zafari wrote:We think there's definitely female traits that pop up, and I do have to get better at giving her more time out, but I personally believe a lot of what you might experience will wholly depend on how you view your feminine side. I've never really felt that J has been overtly feminine; we haven't purchased anything over the top or flashy.
I also believe that if you're still having doubts, or think you won't have a "proper environment" for *any* other personality, then don't use these files. This is essentially an additional person, save for the extra physical bits, and they want to do things too (in general)
Anyways, best of luck with your decision,
-Z & J
pczelda wrote:To any of the personalities that aren't Jack, do you feel that you've taken any personality traits or abilities from him that he would have had before letting you come to be in him? Naturally I realize this could be hard to answer, you'd probably have to confer with Jack over this I'm sure, because you wouldn't know what he had before/whether he'd personally lost something to you.
pczelda wrote:On the impression thing, if I got a female personality in my head (because I have no interest in another male personality), I'd doubt she could do an impression of me very well (at least by voice), so that could be a potential challenge.
JackDrago wrote:Yo @pczelda! Butch here. Dude! Sometimes it's tough when we have to switch too fast. I can get a real bad headache if Jack switches in too fast. I dunno about the trance that you guys use, bro, but ours has a feature called "shining through" where I can just step out of the way for a second to let Jack talk, then take back over as if nothing happened.
Like, if I am working out, man, and Jack's husband has a question only Jack can answer, I ain't gotta switch all the way out, bro, I can just let him shine through a sec and go back to my business.
By the way, dude, don't get an alter if you ain't gonna be committed to letting her out, bro. It sucks to be locked away in somebody else's head. Beast was locked in 7 years, man, and it drove him fucking nuts until Jack finally agreed to let him out.
Hmm that "shining through" feature could be useful if it was only a momentary answer needed and not something more involved. Do you know if the Your Other Half file has anything like that?
pczelda wrote:And yeah, that's one potential issue I'm facing, I've become pretty set in my ways, while I think having a female companion in my head could be very nice (and maybe even be happy to do things for me I have trouble with, such as exercising), I'm not sure at this point if I could take a lot of time out to let her be in control. Although, when push came to shove, there's probably very few things where that'd make much of a difference, who was in control at the time.
CyrilMtl wrote:I have a question for JackDrago, Oxy and the other 'multiple' here,
when you trance on a file, is it only the 'one in charge of the body' that trance ?
does the others know about the trance ? observe it from 'inside' ?
CyrilMtl wrote:I have a question for JackDrago, Oxy and the other 'multiple' here,
when you trance on a file, is it only the 'one in charge of the body' that trance ?
does the others know about the trance ? observe it from 'inside' ?
It all depends on the trance that you are doing and what you happen to have supressed in your subconscious. "Manly Spirit", the file that I used to create Butch specifically says that he is my other half, built to get along with me and programmed to support me and mentor me into increasing manhood. My subconscious has never failed to live up to the text of the trance in his behavior.
CyrilMtl wrote
I have a question for JackDrago, Oxy and the other "multiples" here:
when you trance on a file, is it only the "one in charge of the body" that trance ?
does the others know about the trance ? observe it from 'inside' ?
ArcherT wrote:So iff'n anyone's still itchin' da try files like dis, 'sides dat female takeova ting, dat don't seem safe, we recommend it. Y'all prolly dunno me but I'm Boltz. Rocky and Butch are my olda Bros. Dese files are da real deal. Youse gotta work at it an' shit but eventually youse can make contact.
I'm takin' da reins daday 'cause da kid (Mephi, Archer whateva ya wanna call 'em) is still beat and plans da workout on toppa dis. S'only eight hours an' since I managed da right dat long add email da Yoshi and da gang I figured I could do dis. Ain't easy but I like da challenge!
Only two hours da go an' today I ain't heard much from da kid or Devil Boy (Kid got 'em from dat Satan worshipping, white junkie tug file ting from Oxyfemboi). Kid's nappin' mostly in da cabin 'cause he's beat, I'm kickin' ass wit da manly dudes I work wit and Devil Boy's lurkin' in da darkness like he always does.
Archer T wrote
Ey Butch!
Tanks Big bro! Kid couldn't undastand why I wanted dis name an' a New York accent when we live in da South but how ya are is how ya are. 'Sides, dey could use a lil' more North down here.
Yea, jus' da tree of us. Don't tink I could handle havin' to share dis space wid anyone else! Almost tought we heard a babe dalkin' da us last night and kid out his foot down heh heh. Said tree is enough fo' now. :Rolling Eyes:
OxyFemboi wrote:
Hi, dudes.
We had the pleasure of talking to both Boltz and Angel/da Kid tonight. We're sure we thoroughly confused them cause Yoshi-chan (as Kid/Angel called him), Rocky, and Oxy came out to say "Hi".
ArcherT wrote:OxyFemboi wrote:
Hi, dudes.
We had the pleasure of talking to both Boltz and Angel/da Kid tonight. We're sure we thoroughly confused them cause Yoshi-chan (as Kid/Angel called him), Rocky, and Oxy came out to say "Hi".
Hehehe mosta youse guys ca me out an' it was jus' me an da kid ova here. Kinda like a guessin' game but mo' fun.
Angel/da kid here. P: Boltz was pretty beat yesterday, he only talked maybe three or four times and usually he's a chatty guy. We're going to listen to the file we used for Mephisto and see if we can get him talkin' again. Seems like Boltz asserting himself so much slowed whatever gains slowed our resident demon's progress. Don't worry though, we'll have him prodding Snake (jokingly of course) in his gentlemanly way in no time.
chase1 wrote
Oxy, I have read son of your posts and was wondering, when you write a post do your personalities come to a consensus on what you are writing or does the dominant personality at the time write whatever that personality chooses.
ArcherT wrote
So's like, we been workin' our asses like crazy tryin' da survive at work an' shit. Go da work, come home an' pass da Hell out! We's got news 'bout da psychos I share dis lil' space wid here. Dhere's FIVE 'o us now. Fo' freakin' real, s'like, buy two get tree free! Oh's an' I changed my name da Apollo. Gods are bomb as all get out!
Now, now Apollo, there's nothing here that you've got to worry about! We're all very friendly and get along quite well in my opinion. You may all call me 'Sassy' and I was birthed by the song of the same name, coincidentally, the product of one too many listens!
Honestly, while I rather enjoy make up, some fashion, music, etc my interests are nearly entirely separate from 'the Kid's' to the point where I am almost a foreign entity. Which is fine, we're learning to compromise and make common ground of course~ After all, even Apollo loves men's wear. -grins mischeviously-
Didle (you say it Diedle but having a name wth die in it would make us sad!) and Edith are here too!
We're the twins and the youngest! We like nature, animals, stuffies, video games, fun music, cartoons, candy, sweets, and theme parks! Angel also said that 'we gave him an affinity for wiccanism and belief in multiple Gods'. We just know we like nature and being in it!
We think lots of the same stuff and sometimes we finish each others Sentences and thoughts!
You have no idea how weird it is to listen to them giggle and talk guys, you really don't! And don't get me started on how much 'Uncle Apollo' hates (read: loves) babysitting the kids in the Cabin in the Woods while I work so they'll behave. Sassy wasn't quite strong enough at the time to help and I was still reluctant to let her develop with the rest of them.
SHUSH ANGEL SHUSH SHUSH SHUSH. Okay, back to us! 'Cause we're awesomeee. Mr. Oxyfoxy...urm, Mr. Yoshi-chan said it wasn't good to be lotsa kid ages so we're eight! Isn't that cool? ^-^
Angel says that we were born 'cause he repressed his inner child for so long and things were coming to a head after he had an incident thingy at work. We broke through at last when Uncle Apollo 'cemented' himself in our head and Angel was at the height of physical and emotional exhaustionnn. Or whatever that means. >-< I just know it's fun to be out and see and do so many things! C: If you guys are reading this hiiii Mr. Yoshi-chan and your...um, yous and Mr. JackDragony and Butch.
There was a demonic personality emerging whose name was Mephis but the development of the others has seemed to overshadow him. We haven't heard from him in a while and we're all wondering what's become of him. Other than that, we're all doing well though hardly ready for Christmas with the family. And now exhausted again after writing this. I don't know how Yoshi and the Gang handle it. @_@
blanketcross wrote:Oxy. There is a manga/graphic-novel called "Rosario+Vampire" that has a character with 2 personalities. One was locked away by a rosary and the other one is the one who is mostly active. It gets really in depth around Season II, Book 6-8.
I am not sure you would enjoy it, but it is definitely interesting to read. In fact, I think I am going to start listening to YOH now.
blanketcross wrote
I think I am going to start listening to YOH now.
ArcherT wrote
Hiya Yoshi-chan and the gang, special hello to boi and um, Dick. Can't say that gracefully.
Anywho and first of all, try Irial for Yoshi's new name? In the Wicked Lovely book series (give it a look see), Irial is the King of the Dark Court. Suave, strong, dependable, intelligent, the list goes on. I think he would be a great character to be named after!
Work has been...let's just say I'm ready for my chair in Hell now, haha. Most of my alters are either blocked because I can't take anymore physical and mental strain or have kind of faded...maybe? I know Apollo is sitting on the edge of my mind but I'm usually too exhausted to communicate with him. Quite frankly don't know what to do. Feeling hella bummed.
...and after break it was like this rotating merry go round. Everyone popped out but mostly Apollo (Jock) and King (inner demon). We're all ready to collectively die.
[b]Dracari and Cael wrote[/b[
its been along time. we've been busy, our mother's death still on Cael's Mind, day to day stress making us Both want to retreat (this is Tom as my real name goes [Thomas] but i've still been using the new online name i've taken Dracari) but I've been dealing will bills for my brother, i've been kinda sortof a defuser for some friends arguments over the months. i've been wrapped up in a Tabletop RPG run by a few friends ( i think it was cael who pushe dme to try i've alway sbeen afraid to try one as i use dto be bit of a "God Mode" RPer as a teen)
This is Cael, i wanted to start using Blue for myself there's no color to match my Fur. its been very taxing to Surface i have to push hard like Scream. Tom or Dracari as he calls himself has indeed been under alot of stress especially dealing with his health. he has to take Testosterone cyponate injections due to the Thyroid problems and Teeny Weenie (i've managed to get him to Stop listening to it Neither of us Enjoy the weekly 2inch long Needles he has to use for the stuff.) i'm so tired from this i'll let him speak now.
dkumd wrote
so what are you guys using to develop personalities that aren't feminine?
dkumd wrote
thanks! i listened right away...not sure how this is supposed to feel, or what i'm supposed to experience, but it does feel like something...someone...is up to something.
dkumd wrote
haha well i'm glad things are right on schedule then! i (we?) will be sure to keep you all informed on how things go.
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