Hetero Conversion and Curse Forced Straight Combined.

[robindf1]

[quote="Glory"]Any updates from you guys?

I am resisting hard not to listen to the files again[/quote]

Not for the moment. Do not resist. Dig in, and listen to the files again.

[Glory]

I do not know if I want to listen again, I know that it works now

[Glory]

Update

resisted listening to the files.

Now I feel mentally attracted to men but physically disgusted which makes the entire thing repulsive.

My butthole is like drying up and not wanting to get fucked anymore.

Is this some sort of a stage? Has any of you guys felt anything similar?

[observer]

[quote="Glory"]Update

resisted listening to the files.

Now I feel mentally attracted to men but physically disgusted which makes the entire thing repulsive.

My butthole is like drying up and not wanting to get fucked anymore.

Is this some sort of a stage? Has any of you guys felt anything similar?[/quote]

Why resist when you could just keep going and not have to experience any of this conflict?

[Glory]

Because there are days when I like men back- or so I think, I am not quite sure now. I do like men's attitude much better overall though, men are excellent relationship material.

I do not know if female attraction will become permanent or successful.

And also very importantly I need someone to push me into the files again.

[robindf1]

[quote="Glory":7b9/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/ia319]Because there are days when I like men back- or so I think, I am not quite sure now. I do like men's attitude much better overall though, men are excellent relationship material.

I do not know if female attraction will become permanent or successful.

And also very importantly I need someone to push me into the files again.[/quote:7b9/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/ia319]

Women or excellent relationship material, too. Listen. You know it will make you attracted to them, so do it already.

[observer]

[quote="Glory":74e816/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/id]I do like men's attitude much better overall though, men are excellent relationship material.[/quote:74e816/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/id]

You can't just write women off and say you'd never like a woman's personality.

Honestly, I hate it when dumb faggots say that they are not into women because of personality, as if all women are the same. Really idiotic and misogynistic. Do all men have the same personality? Of course not, so why would women?

If someone says being gay is just too deep in their biology for them to go bi, I understand that. But saying that women just have worse personalities for a relationship is frankly stereotyping and we shouldn't let you get away with it.

[Glory]

“I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to make an ass of yourself.”
? Oscar Wilde

[observer]

[quote="Glory"]“I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to make an ass of yourself.”
? Oscar Wilde[/quote]

I just think it's ridiculous for you to assert that you won't be able to emotionally connect with women the way you can with men, when you have not actually had the motivation to try before.

[Glory]

Having made my previous point abundantly clear (Thank you Oscar...)!

Here is an update.

When horny, womens' pussies make me hard, their tits also. And that seems kind of permanent. And it is nice.

Still do not feel attraction to womens' faces and also have not listened to the files again.

Attraction to men got longer to come back, but it did. And I am happy that it did as I would not have liked to have stayed in a limbo of some kind or an other.

Men I adore their smell, energies, attitudes, philosophy of being , bodies, personalities and their very essence. Maleness is sacred, benevolent, protective, wise, strong, pleasurable, loving and giving.

[Glory]

Have not listened to the files on purpose. They have kind of gotten me in an inbetween state where I could not enjoy men as much. That kind of depressed me and my body felt unhappy on a physical level too.

Have tried CFG to get back to men. It kind of works but it is a slow process surprisingly enough. But my mood and physiology overall are much better now.

However, pussy and tits I sooo need them now. And a scary thought that I try to push back is that all the pleasure that I can not feel about men is all transferred to licking and worshiping, tits, pussy and female ass.

[lew897]

Women are pretty awesome. Id just keep listening until its possible to be attracted to womens faces. Im curious if you, Glory, have been out with a woman yet?

[Glory]

Hey lew897 :)

No, I have not. Stopped listening to the file. CFG helped get back to being able to enjoy men again. It was a slow return at first.

I am getting really horny from these files having experienced how effective brainwashing can be.

Men are fantastic beings :) my body on a physical level is much happier now.

Interestingly enough some of the attraction to tits and pussy although diminished did not entirely go away yet.

[chase1]

Glory, if you want to try cfs again and get rid of the uneasiness try "Accepting your desires, changes and yourself" by control. I have downloaded it, I want to grow breasts, and obviously society frowns on that sort of thing for a man so I am hoping this will help me accept the changes without resistance. I read good things in the comments. I haven't tried yet though, a little nervous about getting rid of my resistance.

[Glory]

Hey chase1 welcome :D

Thank you for the reply.

My desires were always about men. I started the files as an experiment that worked to a certain extent. I liked the fact that brainwashing was effective that made me horny on its own right. It made me realize how many men are also brainwashed through socialization into thinking that are straight too...

I also liked the fact that it worked and that I liked pussy and tits so much. Some of these feelings are here with me still-and I am happy for that. However, it did not progress to womens' faces. And by that time my body would feel dried up in the physical sense and at times I would feel asexual.

So, it was also high time to no longer ignore the signals that what apparently completes me mind, spirit, body and soul is maleness.

Last but not least men are amazing creatures, very well balanced ,benevolent, in tune with their essence and very giving. So, this very rare chance of appreciating them even more should be received as the amazing gift that it is and that men are to the world in general.

[Glory]

Happy New Year to all :)

My attraction to men is back. A need to become more feminine kind of surfaces. Do not know how or why.

Have not listened to the files.

Attraction to breasts or pussy when watching porn seems to be firm and stabilized at a certain degree, which was not to be expected.

[MasterJack]

[quote="Glory"]Attraction to breasts or pussy when watching porn seems to be firm and stabilized at a certain degree, which was not to be expected.[/quote]

I'm not sure what you mean by this, can you explain?

[Glory]

Hello Master Jack :) and a happy new year to you :)

My attraction to men is back and it was a bit difficult to get it back.

By now I have not been listening to the files for some time.

When I stopped listening to the files my attraction to tits and pussy was diminishing gradually. So, I assumed it was going to eventually diminish entirely as the time would go by.

However, I looked at straight porn the other day (I liked the guy model) and there and then realized I liked the pussy and tits of the girl a lot.

It seems that my heterosexual attraction diminished but not entirely or that it reached a plateau and stayed there.

My attraction , need, and arousal for tits and pussy at that point was 100% solid, genuine and real.

[MasterJack]

Well I'm trying to get my arousal for women back recently.

I've been into shemale porn since I was 16, but before that, straight porn and women. I've never found men attractive except their cocks, probably because of shemales, and also messing around with hypnos on here since last year. Basically I have a cock fetish, I was always obsessed with mine, so why not other peoples lol. But not into men any other way (like kissing a man really turns me off, but sucking his cock is a turn on, but mainly due to my feminization hypnos I messed around with before).

But now I'm trying to go full straight again, I created my own hypno awhile back, and I'll try and keep people updated. The problem with me, is I find hypnos still a pain to get into and stick to, but then I never used the curse versions on myself (while this one I am).

Another thing which always use to get me (in previous attempts), is hypnosis is quicker taking away attraction to shemales or anything gay, but doesn't implement attraction to women quick enough, so I end up in a state of sexual frustration while having no libido, and then end up jerking it to some shemale porn, somewhat force-ably.

But with this new file, lately shemale porn or crossdresser porn is really not arousing me at all. I think my new file compared to my previous ladies series of files, is that I am being way more descriptive, and less boring and repetitive in my suggestions.

Anyway yesterday I was trying to get to sleep, but I was really horny and thinking of a woman I once saw at the gym, and if she was my girlfriend, and if I was licking her out, fucking her, cuddling, having sex, etc... And I got really turned on.

So I got out of bed and went to my computer, and put on hentai comic porn. Some reason I find the drawn milfs in hentai really hot compared to real women. I stayed hard, jerked it, and came.

So that's sort of progress to me. Progress as it was straight porn. Not so much progress because it was hentai porn, i.e. cartoons. So I'm hoping I keep progressing until I find real women hot again. Then again in my imagination it was a real women, not hentai, so that's progress.

Whatever the case, hopefully I'll stick to it, and keep you guys updated.

I've posted my main script below (minus some of the standard template stuff). It's mostly a self help script including the woman arousal bit as well.

[quote]Your focus and attention on my voice, is double what it was before.
Your focus and attention on my words, are double what it was before.
Your focus and attention on my suggestions, are double what it was before.
Your subconscious will accept these suggestions and change you forever.
In your waking life, every time you take a breath, each suggestion in this file will become even stronger.
In your waking life, every time you take a breath, each suggestion in this file will become fully permanent and natural to you forever.
If you try to resist changing, the suggestions become even stronger.
The more you try to resist, the stronger the suggestions become and change you.

You will find women sexy and beautiful.
You will find women so sexy and beautiful.
You find everything about a woman makes you extremely horny, and turns you on so much.
All her feminine features look so sexy.
All her feminine features turn you on so much.
Her lovely face, her beautiful eyes, and her luscious lips, all look so sexy to you and makes you extremely horny.
Her beautiful soft boobs feel so incredible, and look so sexy as they bounce and move around, and this makes you extremely horny.
Her hard nipples, and arey olas, look so amazing and sexy to you, and this makes you extremely horny.
Her soft skin feels so soft and looks so amazingly sexy, and this makes you extremely horny.
Her bum, her beautiful soft bum, which bounces around all so feminine like, is so amazingly sexy to you and makes you extremely horny.
Her pussy, moist, warm, beautiful like a flower, and incredibly sexy, and this makes you extremely horny.
Everything about a woman makes you extremely horny, and turns you on so much.
And you love the taste of pussy.
Pussy taste so amazing to you.
You love to eat out pussy.
Everything about a woman just turns you on and makes you extremely horny.

And you are in control of the relationship whatever it may be.
You analyse everything with a level head, because you see the bigger picture.
You see the bigger picture more than just love or sex.
You are astute and aware of scams and gold diggers.
You are in full control of your emotions.
You know when, and what to do.
You are smart about it.
You don’t let her realise you are in control, but you are.
You know not to reveal everything, and when to keep them a little happy, and when to refuse.
You are in total control of the situation, without letting them realise.
Because you analyse everything with a level head, and you see the bigger picture.
You see the bigger picture more than just love or sex.
So you're in control of the relationship whatever it may be, without letting them realise.

And you have drive, motivation, and confidence in yourself.
You become a man of action and learning.
You go out and get the things you want, because you know you can.
You work and study with ease.
You know anything that is humanly possible, you can do.
All you have to do is work and study toward it, step by step, and within time you will get there.
And you find any work and study is enjoyable.
You find any work and study is pleasurable.
You will find each step you need to take, is enjoyable.
You will find each step you need to take, is pleasurable.
You always work toward your goals, dreams, and ambitions for the rest of your life.
You always work on your body and health for the rest of your life.
And you enjoy and find pleasure in all the work and study you do.

You take care of your body and health.
Because you want lots of sex from women.
So you take care of your body and health every day.
You avoid unhealthy foods, unhealthy drinks, unhealthy drugs, supplements that make things worse, and bad habits.
And only incorporate a healthy lifestyle into your life.
Which includes healthy food, healthy drinks, supplements that work, calorie restriction, fasting, and exercise.
And you forget to eat when fasting.
If you need to lose extra body fat, you fast and starve yourself until you are at the right body fat.
You find drinking water fills you up and suppresses your appetite.
Drinking water fills you up and suppresses your appetite.
When you want to lose extra body fat, all hunger will disappear.
And you will forget about food until all your extra body fat is gone.
And you will also take cold showers.
You will find cold showers easy and pleasurable.
You will find cold showers fun and invigorating.
And exercise is one of the best, easy, and pleasurable things to do.
You feel so good exercising, it is fun and invigorating.
You exercise regularly, because you like it.
Exercise feels so natural and pleasurable.
Exercise feels so good and enjoyable.
And you take care of your body every day for the rest of your life.
So you can have an amazing sex life with real women for the rest of your life.

And people’s judgements and negativity go right over your head.
You’re so confident in yourself that negativity and judgements go right over your head.
You can analyse what they’re saying to see if it’s useful.
And take the useful advice and discard the rest.
But whether useful or not, any negativity and judgements from what a person says goes right over your head.
Negativity and judgements don’t affect you at all, because you’re so confident in yourself.
And you know people who have a problem with you, is their own problem in their own head.
So as long as you know you haven’t done anything wrong, then you just won't care when other people think negatively of you.
This is why you’re a real man.
You have courage and confidence.
You live your life how you decide to live it.
As long as you haven’t done anything wrong, you won't care what other people think.
But if you have done something wrong, you learn from it, so you don’t do it again.

And you analyse each situation with a level head.
So you can make the smart decisions to benefit your situations.
Because your goal as a real man, is to diffuse or avoid any negativity directed at you.
And you do this as swift and pain free as possible.
Even though negativity goes right over your head and you don’t feel hurt or angry by it.
You still don't want it to become worse from the other person, just in case they become violent or there are other repercussions.
So you try and diffuse or avoid negativity from other people in the smartest way possible.
Because violence is only necessary as a last resort, in self defense for you, or your loved ones.
Otherwise as a real man you walk away, and there's no shame in it.

And you don't watch pornography.
You have no need for porn.
You forget about porn.
You have sex with real woman instead.
So you have no need for porn.
You forget about porn.
And you take care of your penis using topical treatments.
But you have no need for porn.
You forget about porn.
Because you have sex with real woman instead.
And it's ok to use topical treatments to help heal and keep your penis healthy.

And now any allergies you have, are being washed away.
Any allergies you have, are being washed away forever.
All allergic reactions you have, are being washed away.
All allergic reactions you have, are being washed away forever.
Any negative emotions behind your allergies are being washed away.
Any negative emotions behind your allergies are being washed away forever.
Any negative emotions behind, your allergic reactions, are being washed away.
Any negative emotions behind, your allergic reactions, are being washed away forever.[/quote]

[Glory]

Hello again Master Jack I really like your files.

What about a file removing the same sex attraction parts program of the mind and replacing them with an opposite sex attraction new program installed by you? This way I think there is going to be space for the new program to take effect and no conflicts created by the older programs.


A main reason I stopped with the files is that I was kind of stuck in asexuals states as well and that was no fun.

However, the sudden need to feminize my self that I have felt a few days ago may have to do with a sub conscious appreciation of female bodies resurging.

I am sooo tempted to listen to the files again. What do you (guys) think? I will do what you suggest, provided I get a firm and steady direction. You can also pm me.

[MasterJack]

Hey Glory, at the moment I'm busy with a lot of things so I can't help you, but I think you should try it again.

As for removing the gay/transgender attraction (thus creating a void), and then replacing it with straight attraction (thus filling the void). This was actually something I believed would be very effective in helping recondition my sexuality, and I did actually include creating this void in this series this file is part of. But for some reason in this specific and newest file of this series, when I did a lot of rework, I must have taken this void suggestion out temporarily, and forgotten to add it back in.

It was simply:

[quote]Because this masculinity will change you.
You will find women sexy and beautiful.
And will find anything remotely gay, including trangenders, repulsive and disgusting.
But you will find women so sexy and beautiful.
[/quote]

That one suggestion (which is in bold), was the only line I used to take away my attraction to shemales and crossdressers, and it actually worked incredibly well. That's why I talked about, how well it was at getting rid of my attraction for shemales and crossdressers in my earlier post, which is down to that suggestion.

The weird thing is, as I mentioned before, when I'm horny, I look at some shemale porn forcefully, because my mind knows that was the thing that turned me on, but when I actually look at it, it doesn't turn me on anymore. Thus why I was saying I can't replace it with the straight attraction strong and quick enough.

Anyway I just wanted to say thanks for reminding me. I did not notice that suggestion wasn't in there anymore, and when I get time, will add it back.

Also I still haven't been listening to my files like I should be.

[Cruise-Control]

Glory, why would you want to continue to listen to the file if it's causing you spiritual and emotional pain to attempt this conversion?

You answered why to 'transformed' on the second page:
"Why I am doing this now? Probably Mr Right is somehow delayed and me getting bored with just sex I want to play with really 'kinky' thoughts as to whether we can have more straight men playing around with becoming gay and more gay men playing around with becoming straight."

But now I ask why are you continuing, 2 months later when it is still causing you pain? You have to be who you are because that's what the world needs and that's what your soul needs... right?

Look at what you have said in this thread:

"Men I adore their smell, energies, attitudes, philosophy of being , bodies, personalities and their very essence. Maleness is sacred, benevolent, protective, wise, strong, pleasurable, loving and giving."

and

"Last but not least men are amazing creatures, very well balanced, benevolent, in tune with their essence and very giving. So, this very rare chance of appreciating them even more should be received as the amazing gift that it is and that men are to the world in general."

Wow... when I read that, I was amazed. You know yourself and you know that deep appreciation and love you have. If you know it so well, why try so hard to change it? That love is something coming from the spirit. I feel that womannessis sacred in the same way. I didn't realize that same attraction comes from the same place in a gay man, just towards maleness instead. My point is though, if you have such a grand appreciation and such clear self knowledge, why not just be yourself and have that confidence that comes with the real spiritual power, and experience those amazing gifts?

In my whole life I have only met one gay man who, as far as I could tell by speaking to him, was fully comfortable being himself. He was much more masculine than me, and he radiated a spiritual love. I found myself actually a little attracted to him. His name was Mike. I know I can't generalize because everyone and every situation is different. Maybe I'm actually truly bi because I have that cock fetish/attraction that MasterJack talks about (I think lots of guys have that actually), but I have never actually been attracted to a man's energy like I was with him. Such a crazy thing to experience.

But anyway, Glory I think you should stop trying to change yourself when it is messing with your love and causing you pain.

And I think this attraction and love humans feel for eachother is all sexual in nature. And I think it is ONE energy, coming from ONE place. I think that we change this energy as we filter it through our personalities.

I guess I have the opinion that hypnosis files like the ones on this site should be used to follow one's highest excitement, which includes allowing one to get more in tune with their deeper self... but not to go against what is in the deeper self, and in your case, Glory, what is already known to you in your deeper self.

Lastly I would just like to say that if we could all be as comfortable and confident in our skin as Mike, god damn the world would be an enlightened place. Oh yeah and to drive the point home, Glory, what I'm trying to get at is that because Mike respected himself so completely, he radiated such power that to disrespect him was clearly folly. He radiated love and respect.

[MasterJack]

The one problem I have with a lot of people on this forum.

Is the Cursed Forced Gay file is widely accepted and promoted here, and you don't hear straight men saying no don't do it, who wants to be gay, or post their homophobic comments in that thread. Nor do you hear straight men saying, why change who you are, being straight is OK, why force yourself to change your sexuality?

But you'll often see comments or back handed comments here and on the original curse force straight thread, where gay men are getting offended when a gay man is trying to turn straight using hypnosis.

We are not talking about gay conversion therapy here. Most gay men who use this file and posted about it, are openly gay men who are out of the closet and who's family and friends know. So this isn't about them becoming straight to fit in with the world. They're mainly in it for the kinks and excitement it brings.

And you never know, he actually might be happier fucking women then men (like the NoCalKid who started the original curse forced straight hypnosis thread). And likewise, some "straight" men might be happier coming out of the closet and fucking men then women. Just because these might be the cases with some people, it doesn't demean or exalt either sexuality. All it means is personal and sexual preferences vary from person to person.

So can we leave this rhetoric out of why he's trying to change his sexuality from being gay. It doesn't really matter as long as he wants to. Live and let live.

[Glory]

It is quite amazing that both Cruise-Control and MasterJack described things that I totally agree with. And hopefully I will be able to somehow illustrate how they sort of both work for me. I sincerely thank you both.

Cruise-Control I agree with you about the spiritual aspect. I am aware of many things and like MasterJack mentioned I am not ashamed or closeted so yes I do radiate the confidence that you mention.

Interestingly enough the Ancient Greeks and the Greek Philosopher Socrates mentioned that there are 3 kinds of whole beings (The story goes that the Gods were so afraid of the power of those human beings that split them into two separate beings - each looking for its counterpart ever since)

Those beings were of the following composition Male&Male , Male&Female, Female&Female [Unfortunately when the story is quoted two wholes (guess which ones) of the set of the 3 are conveniently left out...] And there is great meaning behind this narrative...

Here is something new from me, my "problem" and what had me rather sad in the past was that the men that left me where only the ones that had started to love me. So, MasterJack's mentioning of other "straight" men might becoming happier coming out the closet and fucking men paints a rather complete picture here.

And Cruise-Control I also need to thank you here of the honesty of your emotions towards women and of this amazing sounding guy Mike that you mentioned. I am very perceptive of people and often enough is not my luck of love and respect that is the problem but the lack of balls (ironic isn't it) when it comes to falling in love from other men.

So, I would open the spiritual door for someone if asked but I can not take him through unless he wants it himself if you get what I mean. Unfortunately for all of us life is too sort and humans are easily manipulated into being most things but themselves.

Lately the straight files do not give me distress for when I see pussy I need to stick my cock in it for ever and give everything to the girl. I need her hole to envelop me and sometimes men to men sex seems boring even. So I do not longer mind. No disrespect to pussy , cock , women or men but it is a great kink to be brainwashed so hard and end up loving it. And maybe with the right push I will be taken over completely.

[Cruise-Control]

The thing is though, MasterJack, that the "cursed: forced gay" files are mostly used by men who are trying to come out of the closet. Those who are interested in it that are not already homosexual are those who, like Glory, have a fetish for being given a compulsion that is opposite their normal desires. Or maybe a little more extreme like a dissolving of ego and experience of "sub space" that would come with the brainwashing. So the files are essentially the same. Now if I was cruising that thread and saw somebody who I felt was using the file seemingly against their heart's wishes, I would have the same reaction. My point is that such a situation is unlikely to exist. I did read the forced gay thread (5 random pages out of 130) to see for myself. I saw a situation in which a guy cheated on his girlfriend. File or no file, that might have triggered me to post too.

The problem is... people aren't honest. In the example given above, the guy was like "oh it hurt and it was so embarrasing" but he LOVED it. Cheating on girlfriend aside, he loved it so he should follow his love. But it's hard sometimes for me to judge when it is a good time to try to offer something in a thread. Because it's hard to know if that sort of service is really requested or appropriate. I apologize if I offended anyone with my post.

I guess what triggered me to post here was I felt that Glory was allowing himself to be taken over against his heart's wishes. Glory, what you wrote about the whole beings is very interesting. Thank you. More power to you.

[MasterJack]

[quote="Cruise-Control"]The thing is though, MasterJack, that the "cursed: forced gay" files are mostly used by men who are trying to come out of the closet.[/quote]

This point I strongly disagree with. From what I've read from the Curse Forced Gay thread. Most of the men on there considered themselves totally straight, have only been sexual with women, and have never fantasized about anything gay. A lot of them did it because of a dare, curiosity, someone asked them to, or disbelief that it would work.

You are assuming just because people turned gay after using that file, that most of them were closeted homosexuals who were in denial. But you can't assume that, nor assume them were secretly lying about their sexuality to themselves and the world in general.

Many users, for example Alien, had been totally straight throughout his life, fucking women all his life until the age of 5/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i, didn't have a doubt in his mind of what his sexuality was. Then he became gay because of that file, and nearly a cross dresser because of the curse stroke sissy file (which he created another file to counter this files effect).

I think this whole website, it's files, and it's users are a testament that you don't need to be in denial or in the closet to change your sexuality. All you need to be is curious, willing, and open minded to go into trance and accept the suggestions on a regular basis.

Some may have been closeted. But I disagree most were. From the experiences I've read, I highly doubt it.

Even my own experiences of messing around with my own files confirms things you never considered or thought about, can become your natural way of thinking and turning you on.

The whole point of this website is to warp your mind, and that's exactly what it does.

[lew897]

Cruise control, your story also applies to Glory because he also likes women but doesn't want to be straight because of his bias towards men. Unfounded because I doubt that there are men out there that are all of those great things in one person. Those same great things can also be said of women. Unless they are Ghandi or Oprah. I wouldn't want to sex with either of them. So personally, I think Glory just wants that physical attraction to men and not to women.

[xavious]

[quote="MasterJack"]But you'll often see comments or back handed comments here and on the original curse force straight thread, where gay men are getting offended when a gay man is trying to turn straight using hypnosis.[/quote]

Probably because being gay has been, and in many ways still is, treated as something "wrong", so there's probably a greater reaction to someone trying to "turn straight"; it carries more weight.

I agree that adults should be able to decide what they want to do as long as they are consenting, it's just that fetishes, especially ones that affect the mind like hypnosis, blur the lines of consent and can have potentially lasting repercussions, positive or negative. That's why everyone should show restraint and only do what they are comfortable with; obviously this doesn't always work out because people are naturally flawed.

Check just the latest page of the Cursed Forced Gay thread and you'll see members advising another who is concerned about his sexuality to be sensible and certainly not acting like wanting to be straight is inherently "wrong" and that he should like men instead.

It's possible that some members carry negative views towards people embracing heterosexuality, but they are obviously a minority entitled to their opinions, no matter how ill informed they may be.

[Glory]

Oh guys some of you are real fun spoilers, sometimes.

To me men are great beings and that is both my subjective appraisal and also my very real objective past and present experience with them.

I you do not like men then do not fuck them and do not get into relationships with them.

And to get back to my "Socratic metaphor" Yin and Yang are within, seeking them externally is fine too - but will not always be as readily available as when united within, to say the least....

[Glory]

still have not listened to the files.

still enjoy men.

however, I did look at some pussy gripping porn and for a few days now everything else seems to almost faint in comparison

[lew897]

Glory you cant be both subjective and objective... In either case I don't really care anymore if you do or don't listen anymore. I advise you to start training to go into deeper trance and try other stuff. You are so warped. Good luck.

[Glory]

lew897, If you care or not is irrelevant to me.

To be exact, I did mention specifically which the objective and which the subjective parts were. However, each to his/her level of understanding...

Hell in some cultures even the subject the object and their whole interaction can be seen as ONE thing instead of 2 or 3.

Thank you for the advice by the way, however, a) keep it to your self, b) try not to be projecting onto others in the future...

Pretending that you do not understand something and/or actually being unable to understand it, in either case does not nor will it ever fly with me be it from you specifically or anyone else generally.

I wish you all the best in the future also :)

[lego]

I'm returning to attempt this file again lol

[lew897]

Glory since you never were fully attracted to a womans face and, I am assuming that you never had sex with one, I am saying you did not fully become straight therefore you can not be objective in saying that men are the better option for you. Being subjective means having limited experience or perspective. As for being objective your appraisal reminds me of Watson ,in Sherlock Holmes, talking about the woman that walked into their study. Based on Watsons opinion she was beautiful but Sherlock simply did not observe. I recommend -How to Think Like Sherlock Holmes- by Maria Konikova. Of course this isn't advice directed at Glory since I am either pretending to not understand or I don't understand. Understand what? (This reminds me of a Machinma Respawn video. choose unlimited bacon and no video games or unlimited video games and no games- retarded genie) Just because you think a man is great because of your emotions doesn't mean its true.

If you were being objective you would step out of your own situation and see how would another person would deal with it. Since this site is about warping your mind everyone encourages the person to keep going. You have lashed out at the people who have wanted you to succeed. For this I am saying that I don't care for your success with this file anymore. So good luck trying other things.

Considering it didn't work too well I suggest you work on going into deeper trance. This is the general antidote for people that have failed at getting results. You said you've listened a ton to this file already so I am assuming that it hasn't worked fully. I think that if anyone has any trouble with a file that means that going into deeper trance is the only option.

[lego]

I think he has a problem with this views of men. He loves them but does not want to lose that love. That is what is causing him conflict preventing the file reaching it's highest effectiveness. If you don't want to lose the love and stop this conflict. Stop listening to the file. But if you want to be straight, give woman a chance. Your views of men will dwindle away and you will be caught in a woman's web of fascination and arousal. You already have said that you are more sexually attracted to women at this point. Now the rest of you has to catch up with that.

[lew897]

As for not understanding trying to find Mr. Right or your other half just sounds like b.s. to me even if it was from a story about Gods splitting people into two and then making them search for the other. Then saying this is all self knowledge is obviously false when you are changing your sexual preferences by listening to hypnosis in a relaxed state. Then calling me an idiot is obviously the way to go.

[lew897]

Sorry lego I didn't see your posts so I posted in between them with a discussion about Glory. Ive been wanting to listen to this again and seeing that you are too I actually might be motivated to try again because I seem to get more excited when listening to CFG or CFS since I am or was originally bi and going either direction is a huge turn on for myself.

[Glory]

Dear lew897 thank you for just verifying my point exactly... :)

Hey lego try Train Sex Women by EMG at the same time it works well.

Anyone else trying this alone or with his partner at the same time?

[blanketcross]

I am sure that you guys probably don't agree with this, but I think it would be sad if I never liked boys again. I call myself Pansexual, leaning towards the guys, and I can't imagine myself never liking guys again. (I do have cfg downloaded and on my list of files to listen to). Hopefully you guys don't end up regretting not liking guys any more!

[lego]

That's probably why you are not trying this file, haha. Thanks for the warning. But you never know, you might end up liking girls way more. ;P

[Glory]

Welcome blanketcross :D

I think that you are right, thank you for a clear and well meaning advice :D

[lew897]

Dear Glory,
I doubt you even read what I wrote. I also doubt you can even make a reasonable argument against the things I wrote. Are you really basing your decisions of your sex life based on a story about gods? And your gay? Blantcross gave his opinion and not advice.

[Glory]

Dear lew897, the way you go on and on about this, it is really fascinating....and says a lot..., regardless thank you for proving my points once more

[Glory]

This is probably the final update as the sexual orientation part is concerned.

On the good side was that I did get to like pussy and tits and that was pleasurable.

However, I could not relate to the rest. Some might say it is because I did not go more with the files ,however, this has been going for a very long time already. As far as it relates to my own self it seems that trying to twist my nature was not complementary to the totality of my being on top of everything else to say the least.

Lastly and more importantly here is something that I have not seen being mentioned by other users of similar files and even I was failing to notice it for a long time. At some point I would notice bodily complaints in the sense of muscle pains accompanied by melancholic mood swings.

Meditating on it I came to the realization that the muscle pains were energetic blockages I had brought to my self through the use of the files. When I started releasing and balancing that through self acceptance, removing all of the against my nature (in my case) programming of the files then all the energies balanced out again any and all physical complaints disappeared and have been happy and more energetic ever since.

I hope this helps others that maybe experiencing similar.

Love your self.

Know thy self.

Glory

[lego]

Going to have to say I agree with Lew has said in this thread in the last few posts.

Anywaaaaaaaaaaays.

I've been training with a trance file for a few weeks and I go really deep.
I've listened to trainsex woman like Glory said and I do enjoy it. It's short and sweet.
I've listened to Trainsex woman by emg 5 times and curse forced straight twice in the last two days.

I don't have any issues with what I want and letting it do it's work instead of making it complicated and fight it. I'm just going to listen and see what happens.
At the moment I would say I am more gay and a huge sissy faggot who is addicted to porn (working on that). I'm feeling good so far.

[lego]

The voice of cursed force straight is something I can never get used to and I quite enjoy tts voices. I think I will be rerecording it in a different voice and may alter some of the suggestions. I feel like it drones on and on but idk if that's just me.

So far I've only really had arousing dreams and glances at women and thinking of certain stuff. It doesn't get rocks off yet though.

I like trainsexwoman a lot as I can listen to it over and over and it gets right to the point.

[Glory]

Hi lego

Any updates from any other Men?

What about you lego?

[lego]

So, I've been a long way with this now.

Currently I've been listening to power erections cock growth, resmasculinization files and Curse writing.
Curse writing to help me go deeper with suggestions and give myself some words to act as.
Power erections cock growth and resmasculinization to get rid of all the sissy programming I have in my mind and to become manlier.
I've been listening to my own file and the other straight files.
One of my biggest problems I have been having is getting rid of a porn addiction I realised I had and that's what made my sissy fetish spiral out of control to begin with. So far so good, though.

I went on a date with a girl I talked to on tinder, she was really nice and a good looking girl. We had a great time and I pulled her at the end. Went to a bar/restaurant and lied in a park for a couple of hours.

[lew897]

Awesome! I am quite happy for you. Keep it going and us posted! I know that in time you will get what you want.

[desperateguy]

Hi

This is my first post, and I have a complex story, so bear with me.

Since my sexual awakening (about 12) I have always been fixated on ideas of submission and humiliation. This started with an ABDL fetish, but it was all heterosexual. I found girls interesting and enticing. Later on, I discovered pet play, which was positive as well, since now I not only got off on the idea of being treated like a dog by a girl, but also could get hard to the reverse situation (I visited PetGirls.com A LOT).

At around 16, things went very wrong. I got into furry porn, specifically homoerotic (both explicit and non-explicit) furry artwork and fiction. Masturbation during this time increased exponentially and it was always over homosexual thoughts. I discovered gay puppy play, and other forms of homosexual submission. As it stands today, I masturbate usually twice a day, always over either being in a private chatroom talking to gay men about my fantasies, or looking at gay fetish tumblrs. I am still a virgin btw.

I can get hard and climax to heterosexual thoughts, but it is not compelling, and very hit and miss. Sometimes I will need gay thoughts to get hard, then can finish myself off with straight ones, or sometimes I will get hard to straight thoughts but will be cruelly kept from orgasm until I allow a gay thought to take over.

The thing is, I don't think I am gay. I do not notice attractive men at all in my daily life, but do occasionally notice attractive women. I also got really frustrated with myself when I screwed up the chance to flirt with a girl who was obviously interested. Regular gay porn doesn't do anything for me really, just seeing naked men elicits very little response without some further thinking of an elaborate scenario. What I think I did was brainwash myself into homosexuality by accident because of my desire for humiliation. I was always looking for the next most embarrassing thing in my mind, and it amplified all my previous fantasies to have them done by men and not women, making them more taboo, so that is what took over my thoughts.

I'm looking for advice on what to do, what to listen to, etc. I know I cannot just stop masturbating to gay stuff, I've tried, but I want to cut it down, balance it out, slowly grow out of this as I'm now in my mid 20s and an opportunity may be coming up this year to finally have sex (I am terrified I wont get hard or wont cum, ironic I know). I guess I need a regime that is relaxed but determined to recapture the excitement girls once gave me.

Any help would be appreciated, I am kind of desperate here and it is making me miserable. Am fine with questions, if you want to psychoanalyze me, that is totally cool. Also open to private messages too.