Hetero Conversion and Curse Forced Straight Combined.

by **lego** » July 14th, 2016, 10:45 pm

From reading this and I am no expert and only going on the information I have on myself as I feel nearly as much as you do.

It sounds like you have porn addiction, HOCD and possibly porn induced erectile dysfunction (but no evidence of that for you yet) but it could be so since you have a long exposure to porn and since that you are incredibly nervous at the idea of having sex with a woman. (anxiety kills boners).

Porn can make you feel like utter shit and helpless if you don't recognise that it's a problem. Like how long do you masturbate a day? You said you do it at least twice a day. It also kills the desire to seek relationships with other mates, causes self-esteem issues, depression, porn-induced erectile dysfunction, desensitization, extreme fetishes etc.

http://yourbrainonporn.com/

I sent you a pm about effective files but personally I think you should just get off all things erotic until you've felt better about your situation as you say it is making you miserable. I don't know if this will make it any bit better. Feel free to correct me but it sounds like you have a porn addiction is all.

by **desperateguy** » July 16th, 2016, 2:22 am

Hey, sorry I didn't get your private message for some reason. (tried to pm you)

I masturbate for 2 hours on average. Sometimes this is due to edging, sometimes because I haven't found anyone to chat with. Like I say, this isn't so much about the porn as about erotic fantasy and having cybersex with gay men. I'd say maybe only 50% of the time I'm looking at porn.

I'm very glad to hear that you don't think I'm gay at least!

by **Glory** » July 16th, 2016, 3:09 am

Hello desperateguy and everyone else,

Try watching strapon videos were women fuck men up the ass. If there is verbal humiliation in it also, it usually works quicker.
That should replace all male attraction attributes than you find men to have - with attraction towards women and very soon you will totally be possessed by lust for women to give you what you thought men could.

Here is one good scene to get you started http://xhamster.com/movies/158463/strap ... _of_3.html

Combined with the hetero files the other parts of your attraction will be changed and adjusted accordingly. Then find a woman to get all this porn watching to becoming an actual butt fuck by a woman. In less that 4-5 times of her fucking you, you will most probably find that this is probably the sexiest thing for you and you will be totally addicted in the best way possible.

The only downside is that you may find that your attraction to men will be lost and even if you try to have sex with a man you will not enjoy it and return back to your strapon girlfriend to complete you and make you feel right and sexually aroused again.

Try this desperateguy and you all guys and tell us what you think? Know that it is like playing with fire and that it works.

Would be interesting to hear your changes with this. And I have got those of my friends to share if/when you start with this.

Who has similar experience? Or is up to the challenge?

by **desperateguy** » June 29th, 2017, 3:22 am

Hey guys, so it has been a while.

Okay, I have not been listening to the file I have (i dont know what it is called, but it focuses a lot on pussy, and has no music to it, just a robotic type voice). but since my last post, I have stuck to a regime of gay and straight masturbation every other day (with no jerking at all on Sunday). I've only had one slipup, and that was this week, but im committed to carrying on. I don't think I've done badly. I listened to the file all throughout my sleep last night on repeat. Still woke up with gay thoughts and cravings, but when i masturbated thinking of fucking a girl, i actually came pretty quickly. don't know if that means anything.

Are there any other files people can recommend me? Thanks

by **CumSlutDamien** » February 24th, 2018, 11:48 am

Hi. My story is a little different from the norm for this thread. I am a multiple with an alter who has been listening to these two files. I myself, the primary, am gay and want to stay that way. My alter is trying to change from gay to straight, but is aware that he may only end up bi in the end.

He has listened for a little over a month, first to just Hetero Conversion, then the combination of that and Curse Forced Straight. He has acquired an attraction to girls and gets off to females in porn. His attraction to guys fluctuates from slight to moderate, but the attraction to girls seems to be stronger and doesn't appear to fluctuate. I know guys here have spoken of results coming and going in waves, so I assume this is a form of this.

One thing that I have noticed is that his changes seem to create a sort of cognitive dissonance between the two of us. I close myself off when he listens to the file, so I don't have any attraction to girls myself. It's sort of just a general feeling of uneasiness at times.

Also, as my friends don't know about my alter, and are mostly gay males, my alter is wanting to make some friends of his own, especially some straight guy friends who might be able to help him transition and be mentors, so to speak. So far, he has tried online and has not really had much luck finding his own friends. Does anyone have any suggestions? Also, how would he go about explaining his situation to them without coming off as weird?

by **CumSlutDamien** » February 25th, 2018, 3:00 am

One other thing I noticed is that my alter wants to have sex with girls, but does not, as yet, have any desire to have a girlfriend, just sex. Don't know if this will come in time. Emotionally, he still is attracted to guys.

by **lacaz** » March 9th, 2018, 2:32 am

The file has no effect for me right now, maybe it's because I have trouble to trance.

by **Glory** » March 14th, 2018, 6:38 am

Hello lacaz and CumSlutDamien,

Have you guys and/or your partners made any more progress with the files yet?

by **lacaz** » March 14th, 2018, 3:29 pm

Made some progress with trancing thanks to cardigan's files, I'll try these curses again when I have the time.

by **Glory** » June 6th, 2018, 6:13 pm

Any new guys trying the Curse Force Straight file? Or even better any men thinking that this will not work that dare to take this up as a challenge?

Think you know your selves? Get ready to feel a completely new and much hornier self...

Couples especially welcome!

Start reporting...

by **survivor99** » June 30th, 2018, 7:27 pm

I'm a straight guy who listened to a hypno that fucked up my attraction to women so I tried to use hetero conversion to try fix it. Originally I only listened for a month and didn't notice anything, never became addicted to the file. Then later listened like 2-6 times a day for two months and at first didn't notice anything (still no addiction). My attraction to women hasn't come back but I'm now almost completely uninterested in sissy stuff anymore and my submissive fetish is mostly gone but every once in awhile comes back. I also know that I'm a man and am not confused about my gender anymore. While before I was neutral to being gay (just didn't want to lose attraction to women) now I don't exactly find it disgusting just a little unsettling and am not curious or on the fence anymore and I know it's not for me. I have received lasting change because it's been months since I listened so am sure the few effects I received are permanent.

The file itself is hard for me to get into especially because its a male voice and I'm not aroused by the file itself and it bores me which is why I think it didn't transform me a lot. I think the only reason it kinda worked was because of my determination despite the boredom and because I forced myself to listen to it so much.

Found a new version of this file with a female voice that also has suggestions to remove feminization hypnosis so that seems promising. Will hold off though due to personal problems making it hard to concentrate while in trance. Fingers crossed that when I get around to it this hypnosis will fully restore my attraction to women.

by **survivor99** » July 1st, 2018, 3:43 am

Went ahead and listened anyways and was pleasantly surprised.

Normally I'm terrible at trancing but this new version of hetero conversion (hetero transformation) works well. Listened to it on loop for like an hour before falling asleep while listening and listening in my sleep.

Already feel this weird almost "spiritual" attraction to women like I can feel their energy and how it compliments my masculine energy.

Also the file has more of a focus on making gay sex disgusting and at first when I woke up I tried to test it out and looked at gay porn which just felt wrong not necessarily disgusting. But then later I watched regular porn and felt literal disgust at the guy who was having sex with the girl like I wanted to throw up (wasn't super strong but strong enough to notice).

So far I'm liking these fast changes

by **survivor99** » July 7th, 2018, 3:37 pm

Yeah ended up stopping cause my subconscious interpreted "you desire the body of a female" as wanting to have a female body instead of desiring a woman's body and I don't want to be a shemale so yeah... stopping this file. Really a shame. This file was perfect for me; covered all the bases I wanted and more, good tts female voice, removal of feminization hypnosis, and more concise and less boring than hetero conversion. Too bad...

by **RockHard98007** » July 9th, 2018, 5:00 pm

I haven't listened to this file, and as a gay man don't really like the whole concept of it, but:

Would it be possible to edit out the phrase that is messing up the experience for you, using Audacity (a good, free downloadable program) or some other audio editing program? If it's only the single sentence that is bothering you, give it a try.

Rock

by **survivor99** » July 10th, 2018, 12:59 pm

True enough. There's also a mistake in the statement "Is it not enough to be bisexual?" when it's supposed to say "It is not enough to be bisexual". Tried to edit it out with audacity but couldn't without ruining it, might try just removing the whole phrase and yeah I'll probably edit out that phrase you're talking about just kinda sucks my subconscious interprets it that way.

by **RockHard98007** » July 10th, 2018, 10:47 pm

A more labor-intensive possibility is: re-record the whole thing, either in your own voice (if suitable), or get someone else to voice it, or use one of the TTS engines on the Internet.

That means going through the scripts (or manually typing them, if they don't exist), but you can edit them to be sublimely correct for your own psyche.

by **survivor99** » July 10th, 2018, 11:29 pm

Thank you man. I ended up correcting it finally without screwing it up. But sadly won't be using it, at least yet, because...

I made my own file to deal with a mix of personal issues. Which does include becoming attracted to women so if I notice any results I will post them here. Although the attraction to women thing is more like a sidenote in my hypnosis so I may end up using hetero tranformation too later since it is more focused on that.

by **survivor99** » July 12th, 2018, 6:27 pm

I realized why barely any attraction to women came back on hc. It was because the file simply didn't affect me that much. The other effects I notice are noticeable enough but nothing major. I think it was because the file bored me so much and I suffered day in day out listening like 5-7 times a day when I really didn't want to.

by **survivor99** » July 21st, 2018, 10:05 pm

While I'm waiting for a custom file to be approved I created my own version of what I wanted. Still waiting on that custom approval though to see if it can beat the one I made.

I have to say it came out beautifully. It has everything I want and it's working after only the first day.

It's called Shining Hetero Transformation.

Of course I have to attribute some of the success I'm getting to the subliminal I'm pairing with it called "trance training-subliminal".

Basically the file is a combination of Hetero Conversion and Hetero transformation and uses a metaphor I found in sissy hypnosis. It uses pleasure and submission and then flips the script and turns you into a masculine hetero man. It combines stuff I learned from the sissy hypnosis that ruined my attraction to women to fix it instead!

Oh yeah and I borrowed some stuff from enchanted keyboard that makes it so you can change anything around once you accept the suggestions if you don't like them or you can reverse them, otherwise it says it's permanent and irreversible besides that. Oh yeah and it says that you can change or reverse any programs you've listened to in the past evern if they're permanent or irreversable (don't know if it will work on permanent hypnos but why not try) Also I included another part that makes it so you can change your beliefs using the enchanted keyboard method.

It includes dissolving sissy hypnosis and dumbing hypnosis (and has suggestionis to increase intelligence!). It makes you bored with porn and masturbation and makes you only want real sex, bored with the idea of being a woman, being a sissy, and sissy hypnosis, and it makes you lose your confusion about your identity and gives you the identity of a heterosexual man using metaphors of the sun and the soul.

It also makes you super attracted to women more than normal but makes it so you are more comfortable with it and it makes you masculine and dominant.

It also contains a bunch of other goodies and covers more of the attraction to woman process like hair, face, spirituality, feminine energy etc.

I might release it but idk cause it's kinda niche since I created it for my specific issue and it has my personal tastes but I believe some people could benefit from it.

The most important thing about this file is that it has everything I want and it doesn't bore me!

It's extremely addictive though :0 and this is coming from a guy who addictive files never worked on. And I'm normally not a very good subject. Eh it's probably mostly the subliminal I'm using but still I'm happy.

by **survivor99** » July 22nd, 2018, 1:39 pm

Yeah this file works amazing on me. After two days I'm noticing results. I'm getting that whole pushback thing from the old sissy programming and that's a good sign that it's working!

And besides actually starting to feel something for women I'm also noticing I'm more comfortable in my skin.

Oh and I ended up releasing the file. It's called Shining Hetero Transformation.

Edit: and where did everyone go?

Edit 2: yeah the reason it's working so well was the subliminal I was listening to. I'm not falling as deep anymore after awhile off. In light of that I'm now testing the subliminal I created myself to see if it works similarly. Will report on that.

Edit 3: yeah the subliminal I paired with it works great but I'm making a new one called subliminal trance trainer or something and it's more complete. Will report if it works better.

Oh yeah and the magic keyboard type effect I put in the file is working mildly already. Sweeet.

Edit: yeah definitely the new one I made is the best I've used so far. It's called Trance Trainer - Subliminal. Went really deep on that one and I'm a terrible hypnotic subject.

by **lacaz** » July 23rd, 2018, 10:37 am

Tried Hetero Transformation today. I was having a full erection during the file but nothing after.

by **survivor99** » July 23rd, 2018, 11:32 am

Did you use "Shining Hetero Transformation" or "Hetero transformation"?

Anyways so far Shining Hetero Transformation and Trance Trainer may be working too good. It's not in full effect but I can kinda feel what it's gonna be like and it's pretty strong. My attraction to women is going to be ridiculously strong. Don't know if that's a good thing but I'll take one for the team for testing

. It's only been 3 days so far. It helps that I'm listening to both a lot though.

It wouldn't be possible without using the trance trainer subliminal, that thing is strong. Without it I find hypnosis a little boring. I'm already becoming addicted to it and Shining Hetero Transformation. All I want to do is listen to both. I'm noticing that I'm becoming more calm and comfortable with myself too.

by **lacaz** » July 23rd, 2018, 2:51 pm

survivor99 wrote:Did you use "Shining Hetero Transformation" or "Hetero transformation"?

Anyways so far Shining Hetero Transformation and Trance Trainer may be working too good. It's not in full effect but I can kinda feel what it's gonna be like and it's pretty strong. My attraction to women is going to be ridiculously strong. Don't know if that's a good thing but I'll take one for the team for testing . It's only been 3 days so far. It helps that I'm listening to both a lot though.

It wouldn't be possible without using the trance trainer subliminal, that thing is strong. Without it I find hypnosis a little boring. I'm already becoming addicted to it and Shining Hetero Transformation. All I want to do is listen to both. I'm noticing that I'm becoming more calm and comfortable with myself too.

I used "Hetero Transformation" but I might try Shining Hetero Transformation, have you compared it to the other files ?

by **survivor99** » July 23rd, 2018, 3:34 pm

It's a file I made. It covers a lot more than the other files as far as being attracted to women, but it's by no means professional. After all it's my first file. My personal opinion is that it's better than Hetero Transformation and more interesting than Hetero Conversion (though less professional). Then again this is my file and I made it how I wanted.

The file by itself is kinda boring to me (I'm a terrible hypnotic subject), like most files... that is, by itself. But with my subliminal "Trance Trainer" it becomes the most interesting file in the world and I noticed results very quickly. And that's coming from a bad hypnotic subject. I listened to hetero conversion for 2 months and had less results than I'm getting from 3 days of this file.

If you try out Shining Hetero Transformation listen to "Trance Trainer - Subliminal" at the same time and/or before for awhile and tell me your results. I notice the subliminal starts working at about 10 minutes in and starts really coming on a half hour in.

Oh yeah and you can still just use Trance Trainer with the other files if you don't like Shining Hetero Transformation. It's interesting because I had listened to a file that was supposed to permanently erase my attraction to women but it's coming back

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Shining Hetero Transformation: https://www.warpmymind.com/index.php?ga ... e_id=11329

Trance Trainer - Subliminal: https://www.warpmymind.com/index.php?ga ... e_id=11332

Edit: I only just realized both files are premium :/... will probably upload in a little hold on.

Edit2: here they are. Limited time only cause of the file host: https://files.fm/u/m9nhhurv

by **survivor99** » July 23rd, 2018, 11:19 pm

I was playing around with the enchanted keyboard part of the file for awhile and did a lot of things to myself to fix my fucked up demon girl situation and it worked! It didn't completely get rid of her but I feel more relaxed and my head feels clearer and the voices I hear are muted like they're really far away.

The only problem is that suddenly the intesnse attraction I was feeling towards women suddenly disappeared... maybe it's because I jerked off like 3 times today. Don't normally do it that many times but I really couldn't help myself with all the arousal I was feeling... Hope it continues to work.

Edit: yeah it was just cumming too much. It's starting to come back again.

by **survivor99** » July 24th, 2018, 9:43 am

Effects seem to have been dulled. Guess it's one of those wave things. Anyways its hard to trance now because of all the pleasure I'm feeling from the hypno and subliminal. Need to take a break from it for a little as I've been listening non stop for 3 days.

by **survivor99** » July 24th, 2018, 6:42 pm

Ugh, I'm taking a break today all this pleasure is overwhelming and I just want to feel normal... enchanted keyboard effects are working again though... but attraction to women still seems to be dulled.

Before I knew it I started getting addicted...

by **Jackstock** » July 25th, 2018, 7:17 am

Straight Male file can be found here.
https://www.warpmymind.com/index.php?gadget=HFiles&action=GetFile&file_id=11024

by **survivor99** » July 25th, 2018, 7:59 am

Yeah I ended up downloading that file, never got to try it though because I ended up loving the file I made for myself might still check it out.

Anyways, used the enchanted keyboard effects from my file again and they seem to kinda work over time rather than right away but the effects are awesome

. Although it doesn't work on everything. Seems that since I haven't listened enough it only works on things I think it could change.

by **survivor99** » July 25th, 2018, 12:06 pm

Sweeeeet. The effects are back. My attraction to women seems to come and go in waves. It gets stronger each time. Right now I just find women so cute and it's awesome!

Using the enchanted keyboard part of the file to remove the old programming that removed my attraction to women is helping immensely. My attraction to women is finally coming back! And so far it's only been like 4 days! I've tried many different files including ones I made myself but what worked for me was using the combo of "Trance Trainer - Subliminal" and "Shining Hetero Transformation".

My attraction to women has been gone for over a year! And I tried so hard to get it back with no success until now.

Finally I found something that works for me. Let this be known to everyone who thinks that some files can't be removed. They can, you just have to be creative. Maybe change the definition of the word permanent in your mind then remove the file and change back the definition of permanent after. Stuff like that, you just gotta be creative and have hope. For me what worked was using a subliminal to aid my escape.

by **survivor99** » July 27th, 2018, 2:07 pm

There seems to be pushback from the old sissy trigger that replaced my attraction to women. It wasn't really in effect because I resisted it this whole time but it did wipe my attraction to women.

Well for some reason it's gotten stronger and more noticable. I think this is because it's pushback before it gets changed. It seems I'm in another wave of not being attracted to women. These waves seem to be 1-2 days for me so far and can even fluctuate throughout the day.

Before I was really being affected by my file and felt a lot of pleasure from it but now I seem to be bored and even fearful/avoidant of it and also the subliminal and am noticing less results. This seems to be resistance from my subconscious because it knows it's going to have to change and the lack of results seems to be from resistance too.

As a sidenote that's unrelated I used the enchanted keyboard part of my file to start decalcafying my pineal gland and for a few days have had splitting headaches on and off followed by increased awareness. It's not very pleasant being aware of all your insecurities at once that you'd been suppressing. The effectiveness of this part of the file seems hit or miss and seems to be heavily influenced in my belief in it. Also the suggestions seem to sink in over time rather than activate right away and it helps if I forget about it.

Edit: oops turns out I've been listening for 8 days not 4 or whatever I was saying.

by **survivor99** » July 28th, 2018, 1:10 pm

I was surprised to find that when a hot girl passed by I became aroused like I did before I fucked up my attraction to women

. But that bullshit sissy hypnosis is still there too :/.

by **Conco** » April 10th, 2019, 3:35 pm

This thread has kinda died but yeah I'm starting to listen to the files now (not simultaneously, kinda whichever I feel like at any given moment) and will post here with any updates. Loved reading about everyone else's transformations.

by **Conco** » April 24th, 2019, 9:48 am

Still not feeling any super strong effects, but I've noticed in the last day or so that I've been noticing hot girls a lot more than I used to. Like instead of scrolling past them, I linger a minute. Don't get turned on by em yet, but I'm starting to get drawn to them. Been thinking passively about pussy, too. Less about cock. When I fantasize, I usually feel drawn to looking at pussy or tits instead of guys.

by **Conco** » April 27th, 2019, 9:41 am

I guess they're important to me because the idea of being turned on by tits and pussy is a turn on in itself... Besides that though, the idea of sliding myself into a wet pussy is super hot. I think it'd feel better than getting fucked for sure.

by **Conco** » April 28th, 2019, 2:12 pm

Wanna say I'm straight, but not sure I'm there yet! Will update when I have a clearer answer on things.

by **Conco** » April 30th, 2019, 3:44 pm

Still at an interesting point where I feel like guys get me hard but it's almost like as soon as I start j/o I feel like I SHOULD/NEED to be looking at pussy/girls instead, even though it hasn't quite sunk in that I should be attracted to women irl yet. Committed to listening, hope the effects increase. The idea of being a straight, single-minded jock (part of the overall picture for me, hahah) is still a super huge turn-on, and it's keeping me dedicated.

by **Conco** » May 8th, 2019, 6:45 am

Find myself starting to jerk off to thoughts off guys and always ending with some thought of pussy... Now when I look at guys I get turned on by the thought of being straight like them rather than by their own bodies. That's all I can report for now, feeling kinda demotivated with the file in general because I'm afraid it won't work. Any encouragement would be appreciated !

by **Conco** » May 8th, 2019, 9:34 am

Yeah, I've only been listening once at most, so might be best to listen more! Will try get a few listens in tonight and report back.

by **Conco** » May 8th, 2019, 5:50 pm

Just had a great trance, came out rock hard and completely needing to get off to women. Had really intense visualisation of hot women during the trance, completely filled my mind... felt fucking awesome. Listened to it twice.

by **outkast1728** » May 9th, 2019, 12:48 am

Not to hijack, but im starting this combo myself, any warnings or advice yall got for me? the redneck file got me started lookin at chicks now and now my faggy ass dick was throbbin all night surrounded by chicks in their lingerie

by **Conco** » May 10th, 2019, 5:47 am

Like most listeners, feeling the effects in waves. Sometimes when listening, I get incredibly hard imagining naked women and having sex with them... other times, not so much. Sticking with it, listening twice a day. Loving when an on-wave is in progress, but I haven't yet felt anything too intensely for anyone, guy or girl, yet since listening. Should I pair this with Male Sex Animal or something to augment the sex drive increases?

by **Conco** » May 11th, 2019, 12:52 pm

Dumb question, so - do you think that listening once, jerking off to straight porn, meditating on the fact that I'm straight and vocalising it aloud, and then listening again would be a good way to manifest that kind of change? Set like 1hr30 aside a day to do it?

by **garotoanakin** » May 12th, 2019, 6:56 pm

Is there any hipnotist who would like to work with me aiming the goals of masculinization and develop of heteressexual feelings?

by **jeremyjason76** » May 14th, 2019, 5:20 pm

Hi. I've just started listening to these files five days ago. I am a gay bottom, happy with being gay, and, while being able to aesthetically appreciate nude women in art, have never been attracted to girls and grossed out by the thought of sexual contact with a female.

I figured I would try this to see if it would work.

The first day, I listened to CFS, HC, HT, TrainSexWomen, Straight Male, and something called, I think, Demonic Straight Transformation. After listening to them all, I decided HC would be my main focus file, with some TSW, SM, and the demonic one mixed in.

On the second day, I listened to the file twice. I had an intriguing feeling when looking at pictures of girls, compared to neutral to grossed out. Also, I was a little turned on by straight porn and came.

The third day, I listened three times. I couldn't really get off to straight porn, and switched to gay porn.

Also, I read in one of the forums about listening three times a day, looping it for about 40 minutes at a time.

Yesterday, I listened twice. The first was a loop of three listens. The second was a loop of two. I intriguingly noticed a couple of girls walking on the street. Once a guy was walking with one of them and, after noticing her, I had a stronger desire for him. Then, last night, in the store, I got really turned on by a girl in line who was dressed in tight clothes and acting "dumb" for her boyfriend, which I never understood. When I got home last night, I got off to bi porn, with two guys and a girl. I was attracted to all three, but came when finally concentrating on the girl.

So far, I would say that I'm more than intrigued by some girls, but my attraction to guys is still stronger and more "genuine", for lack of a better term.

It looks like this thread has died out mostly, but any advice or encouragement would be appreciated. Or, I would be willing to converse with a mentor in PM. I'm interested in seeing how far this can go, and if I end up straight or bi. Straight scares me somewhat because I'm openly gay and my friends consist of a few girls and some gay guys. I feel like it would be entering a new closet in a way.

by **jeremyjason76** » May 14th, 2019, 7:00 pm

Just listened to a loop of four.

A couple of things I've noticed that I thought I would mention.

I have opened up to the idea of hooking up with a trans man, even if they are pre-op and still have a vagina. I suppose that should not be surprising. I know there is born with trans women, but I've never come across any with trans men to try looking at any.

More curiously, I found myself listening to Eminem and other rap and hip hop last night. This is definitely far from my usual musical taste of Broadway, disco, eighties, etc. I usually can't stand hip hop or rap. I wonder if this is an effect of the file and it's idea of being straight is more masculine.

by **jeremyjason76** » May 15th, 2019, 12:46 am

For my second listen tonight, I switched to CFS for a loop of three. I was choosing HC primarily because I wanted to not have the submissive effects of CFS if this works fully.

After, I watched more bi porn.

The first scene was one guy and two girls. The guy seemed to fade into the background for me, even though he was attractive.

The second scene, two guys and one girl, I noticed the guys, but more of a sense of putting myself in their place.

The final scene, one guy and one girl, was pretty much the same as the second scene, putting myself in the guy's place. I came during this scene, then, after coming down from the orgasm, my attention became more equally split between the guy and the girl.

This is starting to get a little scary, since stuff seems to be progressing faster than I expected.

by **Conco** » May 15th, 2019, 3:30 am

Hey bro, good to see another person listening! Since you've been using both, have you found that HC/CFS is better? Which would you recommend I continue with?

by **jeremyjason76** » May 15th, 2019, 10:15 am

Thanks for responding. Hopefully some others will join the conversation and give some encouragement.

Not sure yet if using the combo is better than choosing one. I would say that my porn viewing last night was the most successful yet, but don't know if it was the combo or the switch to CFS. Only thing I want to avoid is the submissiveness of CFS, but it might be the stronger file. I would definitely say that listening for a loop of a few listens at a time is a good idea, along with at least two or three sessions a day.

How long have you been listening? What stage do you feel you are at?

by **Conco** » May 15th, 2019, 11:17 am

So, I've been listening for like 2 weeks and I think I've missed two days. Probably listened between 17-18 times. I feel like I'm at a stage where I'm not noticing men pretty much at all, but rarely notice women either - at like the midway point of the seesaw, so to speak, though when I do j/o it's always to women and always to thoughts of fucking them. Just not feeling super intense arousal towards them yet, but my affection for men is very much decreased.