Hetero Conversion and Curse Forced Straight Combined.

[jeremyjason76]

I did another loop of CFS this morning. I fell into a deep trance, where I blacked out towards the beginning and woke up right before the awakened. From what I understand, this means that I'm receptive to the conditioning, as well as deep unconscious trance still having an effect if your mind already knows the file.

I would say I'm bi sexually but gay emotionally. Girls are an empty surface attraction, almost like a fetish, whereas guys still give me a deeper feeling inside and hold a more genuine attraction. I could probably attempt sex with a girl, but nothing further at the moment.

Have you experienced any changes in interests, like I mentioned about finding myself listening to rap and hip hop out of the blue?

Also, how do you plan to navigate this change in your real life? I don't have any close straight or bi male friends to confide this in and possibly be an offline support. If I turn fully straight, I'm afraid I'll end up in a different closet. Also, there's nothing like a bath house for straight people, so I would have to navigate a whole new world.

[Conco]

Similarly, I'd say for me that it's pretty much solely "while horny" right now that women are attractive, it still hasn't really sunk in as a baseline sexuality thing yet. I WOULD say that some of my interests have changed recently, but I'm also using a bunch of jock files alongside this so it's hard to know if it has contributed... however, my interest in sport has increased dramatically over the last few weeks particularly, and I feel genuinely unhappy to miss games/events, which was never the case before. Maybe this file's contributing, or maybe not, hard to tell!

As for how I plan to navigate it in real life... well, I'm a virgin as is and don't have a lot of people who it'll really affect (starting college in a few months so will make new friends there) so I'm just focusing on how it impacts me for now. My advice to you would be to bear in mind that your sexuality is your own business, especially when it comes to how you want to exercise it; if your friends have a problem with you "suddenly" being straight, I'd question why they care so much. If they're decent people, I'm sure they won't care if you wanna explore another side of your sexuality.

[jeremyjason76]

It's not so much concern over my friends accepting me. It's more of the "suddenly happening" that could be disconcerting. I'm 43 and have been firmly gay in all ways, publicly and privately, my whole life. I understand how you might think that it shouldn't be a big deal. You are young and in that stage of life where experimenting and self-exploration is expected. Also, I feel it is a generation gap thing. Your generation seems more open to accepting the idea of fluid sexuality, not liking labels, etc. If I end up bi, I could easily just not mention it. But, if I stop suddenly being into guys, and being into girls instead, it might be a little hard to explain. It's not exactly the same as listening to jock files and suddenly going to the gym.

[Conco]

Yeah, that's understandable. What I'd say to you is that I do feel that, generation gap or no, those fears probably shouldn't impact your decision to continue or not; if it's something you wanna do, commit to it, go the full way, and cross whatever bridges you need to when/if you come to them. Plus, if your interests are changing like you said, maybe finding new supports in real life won't take as long as you think, anyway!

[jeremyjason76]

I intend to continue. And what said about new interests brings new supports makes sense.

Something I've noticed also is I seem to be so addicted to the files, it's become obsessive and all I want to do. I know there's addictive files, but I've never been affected to this extent.

[Conco]

What's your listening schedule like? Seems like you're feeling it a lot stronger than I am. You listening three, four times in a row, or how you doing it? Seeing your arrangement would be good inspiration.

[jeremyjason76]

Two to three sessions a day. Each session is looped for three or four repetitions. I also edited the inductions and awakeners off so there's one induction, three or four bodies, and one awakeners.

[Conco]

Ah, so you block off like 2 hours for listening then...? Might have to try that.

[jeremyjason76]

And, I've only been at this for six days.

[Conco]

Gonna steal your methodology, haha... If I shoot you a PM, any chance you could send me your edited file and we could trial it together here?

[jeremyjason76]

I'll try.

I joined a bi dating app.

[Conco]

That's a great start, bro! Let us know of any further developments!

[jeremyjason76]

Did you use the term bro before the files?

[Conco]

Hmm... Idk! Not before my jock files, anyway.

[Conco]

Just had an in-the-wild effect. Saw a picture of a hot girl on my timeline and found myself pausing, involuntarily staring at her tits and ass, and getting hard because of it. Never did that before.

[Conco]

Just looped three times (HC) and went straight to Brazzers... Came too soon to judge my response to the girl lol, I was edging during the third listen, but felt great

[jeremyjason76]

What is Braziers?

[Conco]

I'm sure you'll find out yourself at some point...!

[jeremyjason76]

I'll look it up.

[jeremyjason76]

In all my porn searching, I've never come across the name Brazzers.

There was mention way back in the forums about CFS about taking a break from masturbating for a bit to help your brain reset and was supposed to help with the change. I'm thinking of trying it, but I'm hornier than I usually am, so it'll be hard.

Interestingly, I don't always get hard during prancing with the files. My mind just goes blank a lot.

[Conco]

Alrighty, so bit of a backslide tonight. Found myself looking up this guy and thinking about how hot he was... Lol. Not aroused by him, but very aesthetically pleased.

[outkast1728]

I wouldnt call that a backslide, more of bro-preciation... its like dudes at the gym envious of other's skill and gains

[jeremyjason76]

Well, conco, I wouldn't really call it a backslide if you are still in bi status.

[jeremyjason76]

Last night, while watching a movie, I had some mournful feelings about being gay that I might be leaving behind.

[Conco]

Do you mean you were mournful about stuff you might be leaving behind, or that you're leaving behind the mournful feelings?

[jeremyjason76]

I was feeling mournful/depressed about what in my current life I might lose.

[Conco]

I mean that's fair bro, but for the time being, focus on what fun stuff you might gain! Any opportunity has a price, I guess... It's normal to feel a little mournful of it

[jeremyjason76]

That's true. Probably it was partly not knowing what will replace it, so I can't compare it yet.

[jeremyjason76]

So, I'm at the one week point. I have stayed away from porn for two days. Just did a test with some pics, some nude, some not. With guys, my attraction is a little duller, and I am almost unsure if I want to have sex with them or just be friends. With girls, my attraction is stronger and gets me hard quicker.

[jeremyjason76]

So, I just experienced some daydreaming, which is rare in itself. I was sitting with my legs wide and suddenly imagined a girl appear between my legs sucking me off. Then, a few minutes later, I was randomly looking off and imagined a girl standing in the corner.

[jeremyjason76]

Outkast, have you used the files and had success? You seem to speak from experience.

[Conco]

Sounds like it's going well for you, bro. Keep it up! Listened twice in a row for the last few days... still haven't really had a super strong reaction to stuff, but that may be because I have a lower-than-average libido as is. Any suggestions on files that can help increase libido would be welcome...! Haven't gotten off to guys in like 2 weeks now, always girls. Finished listening this morning and went straight to a pic of two girls with their legs spread and got off like never before... lol, liking the effects, just wishing they were a bit stronger post-file/manifested more in real life! The files have worked to eliminate gay desires, but not so yet to implement new ones.

[jeremyjason76]

I have a lower libido, generally and due to mess I take, but I get harder with girls than I get in general. I know there's suggestions for high libido with girls in HC. Don't know any files offhand that deal with libido specifically.

I was out earlier and was noticing guys and girls with almost equal intensity.

Do you switch between HC and CFS, or are you staying with one?

[Conco]

For the time being, going to stick with HC, but listen to CFS if I feel like it. I think the specificity of the suggestions in CFS is alright, but I'd rather not JUST be into eating pussy... which is what a lot of CFS is. I do think CFS is more intense, though, which is useful. HC for now, anyway, looping twice a day for two times each, and then CFS if I feel like it in between.

[solidweeny]

Wow, Guys I really like what you are doing to yourselves and most importantly the support that you are giving one an other.

It seems that there are many gay guys out there that suddenly feel the need to succumb, obey and comform to their new heterosexual self emerging from their very own inner core.

Have you observed or feel similar?

[Conco]

Yeah, lol, felt right to start this and stick with it. IDK where the compulsion came from, but it feels like what I'm meant to do.

[jeremyjason76]

Solidweeny, this forum is pretty lonely with only Conco and myself. Where are all these other guys you speak of? More people interacting would help even more.

[jeremyjason76]

Conco, I try to do two sets of HC, with CFS if I do a third listen. I'm not sure if HC would be enough on its own without the other supporting it. But, I wish there was one file combining HC and the strengths of CFS. Even throwing in some more libido heightening and masculinization. One that was spoken by a person would be even better. That's supposedly the advantage CurseForcedGay has over the straight ones, the fact that it's a human voice that can be more emotionally suggestive.

[Conco]

So, for people reading, how much time approximately are you dedicating to the files per day? i'm currently only giving between 40-80 minutes, usually closer to 40 as 4 listens can be too much time-wise.

[jeremyjason76]

Is anyone else reading this regularly?

[jeremyjason76]

So, I was noticing more guys than girls while being out today. But, haven't used porn or jerked off for four days. It was a scene with two guys and a girl. Was into one of the guys most of the three, but it turned into me following him and putting myself in his place, so got off to what he was doing with the girl. Almost like my attraction to him helped me easier imagine myself as him.

Two things have definitely changed. I no longer desire or think about getting ducked by a guy. Still think of blowing, kissing, and licking guy's bodies. With girls, I think about pretty much the same scenario, with licking their pussy instead of blowing them obviously. Some desire to fuck a girl, but not as strong as the rest.

The other change is, I go on Grindr, but almost don't care about nobody responding back.

[Conco]

Still haven't tried not jerking off, but distinctly still not thinking of anything sexual with guys when doing it. All women. Still get, like, INITIALLY turned on by guys? But it's more like I'm being turned on by their masculinity than their bodies... Weird shit

[jeremyjason76]

I'm only a couple days into the second week. So, you are about two weeks ahead of me, if I'm right.

[Conco]

Yeah but only started listening more than once daily around the same time as you

[jeremyjason76]

So, I guess you have an aesthetic appreciation for guys and admiration for their masculinity, in the sense that you want to be like them, but not a deeper attraction or desire to be sexual in any way. Have you found being around guys different or easier, since there's no attraction? Also, have you encountered a guy you had a crush on previously? If so, does anything still linger emotionally or otherwise since you had been more attracted to them than a random guy? Have you had a girl crush yet?

[jeremyjason76]

So, I tried gay porn for the first time since starting listening. I thought all the guys were hot, got pretty hard, but found it bland on another level. I even thought something like a guy would work as a mouth when you're in need. I switched to straight porn and got fully hard and turned on and came. With the guys, I also had the feeling like I was hanging out with them and they happened to get horny, maybe after we were talking about girls, and started relieving themselves with the available holes. Interestingly weird.

[jeremyjason76]

Compared to jerking off to porn, there isn't so drastic a change when out and about. Still notice guys more. I saw a couple guys I have crushes on and nothing seems different. I do occasionally notice a girl here and there, and am attracted to them.

[Conco]

Considering how fully you identified as straight before, though, that's quite a change... keep it up, bro!

For my part, I haven't really been out enough to assess the effects (I know, lol, I'm a homebird) but still have not felt true attraction to any guy, and am completely gone from my old idea of "pussy looks kind of gross" to now enjoying looking at it when I jerk off, etc. Missed two days of real listening, only got one loop of HC in on both days, and need to recommit for the week ahead!

[jeremyjason76]

I assume you meant to say how fully I identified as gay before.

It might be where intentional attempts, such as looking at porn, change before automatic reactions when other things are going on at the same time. I do find the occasional girl attractive out of the blue when going out.

[Conco]

Yep, meant to say gay, whoops. Either way though bro, keep at it. It seems like the files are taking better for you than me; might be because I'm not super sexual in general/have no experience, lol, so I rarely even found guys that sexy before.