Hetero Conversion and Curse Forced Straight Combined.

by **anon13425** » May 21st, 2019, 9:42 am

I read through this thread regularly. Your guys' journey is pretty hot and I hope you find more success with this file! Conco's goal, especially, of being a simple minded straight jock bro is something I'd very much like to keep hearing updates on

by **jeremyjason76** » May 21st, 2019, 1:34 pm

Conco, would you have considered yourself somewhat asexual more than gay before? If so, that may complicate things if there is little to no sex drive to change.

by **jeremyjason76** » May 21st, 2019, 9:27 pm

Tried gay and straight porn again. Only got half hard with the gay but fully hard with the straight. Again, the feeling of some attraction, with some purely aesthetic appreciation, to the gay guys, but put myself in the place of the straight guy.

by **Conco** » May 22nd, 2019, 11:55 am

@anon, your words are very much appreciated... it's good to know that I've got someone rooting for me!

Hopefully it all pans out.

@jeremy, I guess I would have said that I might have been somewhere on the asexual "spectrum" but it's hard to tell. I'm also an anxious/insecure type in general - so is it possible I was just too insecure to imagine sex with people? IDK. I jerk off a lot, like up to 3 times a day at certain periods, so I don't think I have a non-functioning libido, and I did find guys hot, so I'm not sure. For the time being, I'm progressing "as if" I have a sex drive to change, and we'll see where it goes.

I'd also be interested to hear if you listened any more to Male Sex Animal!

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OK, so first in-the-wild effect. I was at college today and this girl was telling me about how she'd gotten a ride home from this guy in our class, (good friends with this girl) and he'd fingered her before driving her back, and she was acting all giggly about it, and I found myself getting like BIZARRELY jealous of the guy and wishing i'd been the one to get that chance. Then I kept noticing her ass whenever she was walking in front of me, and how nicely shaped it was. First time happening!

by **jeremyjason76** » May 22nd, 2019, 3:24 pm

Really fair answer regarding your possible asexuality. Of course, libido is different from sexuality also, so increasing libido wouldn't affect sexuality, as far as I could guess.

Only did the Male Sexual Animal that one time so far, but no immediate lasting effects so far. I will be trying it again, but probably more towards nearing a completion of this file, since trying to concentrate on more than one type of file at a time can sometimes lessen the effectiveness of both. It's different enough that it's different from pairing HC with CFS OT TrainSexWomen.

by **jeremyjason76** » May 22nd, 2019, 3:30 pm

Here are a couple of interesting things I saw posted for CurseForcedGay that sound like a good barometer to judge our success here by.

"You have to distinguish between sexual, romantic and aesthetic attraction. Gays may find girls nice and attractive but just don't want sex with them. Many heterosexuals find a man's body beautiful, but never dream of sleeping with men. In short, you are gay now. That you still find women beautiful don't change this fact."

"I'm in a spot now where I see pretty women and i think damn she's hot. But then when it comes time to get aroused, nothing gets my pulse going like thinking about being with men. I only jerk off now to either gay porn or by googling hot gay men and looking at the pictures. Men can get me instantly hard. So - the attraction to women is there but it's just not worth thinking about being with them sexually."

by **Conco** » May 22nd, 2019, 6:42 pm

Well, I'd say by that metric, I'm straight now. Been weeks since I thought of any sexual act with a guy. It's all been pussy

by **jeremyjason76** » May 22nd, 2019, 11:21 pm

Hope you'll continue to follow my progress, even if you have reached success.

by **Conco** » May 23rd, 2019, 12:36 am

Lol, I'm not done listening, I was just noting how I feel for right now.

by **jeremyjason76** » May 23rd, 2019, 2:22 am

Supposedly, two months of listening is an average for starting to feel it being permanent.

by **Conco** » May 23rd, 2019, 12:28 pm

Awesome. So bro, you enjoying the file still? Been a while since you've commented on how your enjoying the changes.

by **jeremyjason76** » May 23rd, 2019, 1:43 pm

I had minor surgery yesterday. Still got a couple listens in. I think I'm feeling more aesthetic attraction than sexual looking at guys in pics, more like I want to just be friends, whereas I'm staring and more attracted to girls. Still think it's taking longer to change for live encounters. Still noticing guys more in person.

by **solidweeny** » May 24th, 2019, 2:56 pm

Gay2bi_chat in discord

Many people converting

by **jeremyjason76** » May 24th, 2019, 5:52 pm

solidweeny wrote:Gay2bi_chat in discord

Many people converting

I that a forum topic on here? Or is discord something on another site?

by **jeremyjason76** » May 24th, 2019, 5:59 pm

I was watching a solo domination video of a guy flexing and talking down to the viewer. I found myself wanting to just be friends with the dom guy and admiring and wanting to be as muscular as him. Also thought it might be fun being in the video with him, talking down to the viewer.

I have been listening for two weeks now. I seem to feel an internal peace with accepting my being changed.

by **Conco** » May 25th, 2019, 4:42 am

That's really awesome, bro. The way it should be, clearly, if you're coming to a sense of peace with it! Keep it up.

I went out to a party last night to celebrate finishing my semester and got kind of drunk - for pretty much my first time - and was with this girl who was wearing this tight yellow jumpsuit, and I swear I was staring at her tits all night, lmao. I was noticing every girl when they passed me, and even though I didn't get aroused, I felt compelled to check their asses and tits. Fucking awesome. When I saw another guy doing the same we had a moment where we winked at each other and laughed and it just felt so, like, RIGHT. IDK, I really loved it. Listened twice to CFS this morning and jerked off to thoughts of just making out with that girl, I was so boned up. Really loving what I'm experiencing so far, and am not planning to stop until women are all I notice EVER

by **jeremyjason76** » May 25th, 2019, 7:59 am

That also sounds like you had an awesome experience. I got hard just reading it. I guess you checked out every girl you saw, but obviously found yourself more attracted to at least the one. You seem pretty straight to me.

Watching the domination videos, it was weird wanting to join in calling the viewer a loser and a fagot.

After considering that my porn attractions and my live attractions seemed to not be evenly changing, I switched to bi files today. I feel that being gay is so innately part of me that, having had some success with straight files, I would easily transition to being a homoromantic bisexual. Listening to the bi files turned me on and gave me a feeling of peace and relief and calm. I may turn completely bi by the end of the two months, but looking objectively at the situation and my reactions thus far, I felt this was the best choice for me and the right timing before it became hard to revert to the middle or recover my attraction to guys.

Hope this doesn't disappoint you.

by **Conco** » May 25th, 2019, 8:59 am

Nah, that's all good bro. You gonna keep posting here or...? You gotta do what's best for you. I'm gonna keep listening and, until I get to a point where I find myself involuntarily being attracted to/turned on fully by a girl IRL, will not stop. Next marker then will be if I feel confident/secure enough to approach them...! But that's a story for another time. For now, my success is super exciting!

by **jeremyjason76** » May 25th, 2019, 9:05 am

Yes, I'm going to continue posting. I still have a good deal of time before I figure out where I'll end up on the spectrum after a couple months of listening. This could actually be an interesting twist on the nature vs. nurture conversation.

by **Conco** » May 25th, 2019, 12:34 pm

I agree. The nature v nurture thing is the big debate with this conversion stuff; I'm of the opinion that it comes down to neural pathways in general, and that the files help to create new ones/open the opportunity to form new ones. I think that the post-rush of the files is enough to let someone get off to a different kind of stimulus than normal while weakening the reinforcement of the old, but it'll obviously take longer with someone who's been fixed gay for longer. If you were bothered, I'm sure you could commit to becoming straight; I really think the only limit would be patience/time/your own imagination. Not to say you should stop going bi, lol, I was just noting the practicalities of it. For me, someone who's never engaged in gay acts or anything, it's logical that the files would take faster, assuming we had the same level of hypnotisability or whatever. I'm hoping I'm flexible enough to change fully... but until I start to get like rock-hard with girls irl and feeling cock-led, for want of a better word, I won't consider myself converted.

by **jeremyjason76** » May 25th, 2019, 9:00 pm

Like I said, we both have a while to go before judging any success on our parts.

by **Conco** » May 29th, 2019, 4:42 pm

Feeling super horny for tits and pussy right now. Hard as a rock and just staring at pictures... I'm so fucking ready to be a straight guy, and to out to fuck chicks

by **jeremyjason76** » May 30th, 2019, 7:19 am

Awesome!

by **Conco** » June 1st, 2019, 6:32 am

In an "off" wave right now. Struggling to stay motivated

by **jeremyjason76** » June 5th, 2019, 12:20 am

After some listening, I do not feel that I will personally progress beyond a stage of bisexuality. One of the reasons I feel this way is that the files only really deal with changing your physical sexual reactions to stimuli. An improvement might be reached by adding something that attempts to change your emotional attractions, as that is the flip side to the sexual aspect of sexual orientation.

Good luck to anyone else continuing. I will continue to keep up with the thread.

by **Conco** » June 5th, 2019, 5:23 am

Still listening, as an update to my own process, but entering exam season right now and so have to prioritise tht for a bit! As of right now, it's been over a month and a half since I properly got off to any image of a man, and have only felt fleeting attraction towards men twice. The effect of making me not gay has certainly been successful; it remains to be seen if I'll become intensely straight or not, as right now I'm not overly pushed!

by **Conco** » June 13th, 2019, 6:19 am

Missed a few days of listening, but found myself reeeeaallly staring at tits and ass yesterday on Instagram despite that, and thinking about what it would be like to fuck literally every hot chick I saw. Pussy looked great, too; definitely in an up-wave right now. Need to re-commit to listening, these effects are great..!

by **jeremyjason76** » June 15th, 2019, 7:32 pm

Hey, that sounds like real progress. Keep it up, so to speak.

by **solidweeny** » June 17th, 2019, 2:13 pm

How are you progressing guys?

Any new people converting?

by **Conco** » June 20th, 2019, 7:46 am

So, I think I've reached a stage where my results are now being curbed by my own low baseline arousal. I was never a super horny dude, and this file hasn't changed that... but I've gotten a point now where I'd rather jerk off to girls than guys, and I literally searched "pussy worship" on pornhub last night because that's what I felt like I was in the mood for, and the thought of licking out the pussy onscreen seemed way better to me than sucking cock ever did. For me, I think my results feel confused because of their coexistence with my jock tf fetish - something which is hard to separate from being homoerotic, despite never featuring male on male sex - and my own low libido. I'm still listening and continuing, and I do consider that I am/am very CLOSE to being straight, but I think I'll need to try something like Male Sex Animal now on a longer basis to see increased effects!

by **jeremyjason76** » June 21st, 2019, 2:40 am

And of course try to go for a real-life experience and see how it turns out.

by **Conco** » June 23rd, 2019, 10:25 am

Still too anxious to do that, haha, totally inexperienced to all kinds of sex with guys or girls. No clue where I'd even start doing that, super scared to even try! If anyone has recommendations to help solve that problem, I'd love to hear them.

by **jeremyjason76** » July 20th, 2019, 3:39 am

Hey, Conco, any new updates?

by **Conco** » July 22nd, 2019, 10:14 am

Hey, unfortunately not. Had to take a break from listening for a while due to some mental health stuff, but hoping to get back soon. Thinking for now that I might pick a single file and stick with it for a month from now on, since I'd been rotating before that. I think I'm going to listen to a jock file for the next month and then rotate back to CFS/HC and commit to not masturbating till the urges and straight desires are uncontrollable. Effects have waned, naturally, but still not returned to how gay they were. Still fantasize about women, just more sporadically than when I was listening.

by **Conco** » August 11th, 2019, 7:37 am

Starting now, I'll be listening to CFS once a day for thirty days and not jacking off to ANYTHING, if possible, but only to straight porn if I ever do. Interested to see how the effects progress.

by **jeremyjason76** » August 27th, 2019, 3:30 am

Hey, Conco, how goes it?

by **jhfromsf51** » September 6th, 2019, 8:33 pm

Hi group

I’m new here and I’m interested in trying gay to straight hypnosis. I’m a 100 percent gay guy living in San Francisco who has a lot of kinks and fetishes and the idea of changing my sexuality and becoming something that I’m not is a turn on to me. I have no experience with women and all my sexual and emotional attraction is towards men. Are there guys who are in the same boat as me who tried the hypnosis and it actually worked for them?
Also what are some good files on here to get started with and are there some I should avoid or are not very effective?

by **solidweeny** » September 7th, 2019, 5:25 am

Hi jhfromsf51,

Welcome, you will be changed to something that you are not and this is going to be the greatest turn on ever during both the whole process and especially afterwards.

Files you can use are Curse Forced Straight, Hetero Conversion and Train Sex Women.

I suggest you start with Curse Forced Straight (CFS) and stick to it at least once a day for two months. This file will not allow you to change back but you won't want to change back either.

Keep us posted both here and via sending me pm's

You will be so horny and so happy

by **jhfromsf51** » September 8th, 2019, 6:22 am

Thanks for the welcome, I will try out the files mentioned and keep the group updated of any progress. It seems to me that for something like this to work someone would be have to be motivated and really want it. Also what I was thinking is that a gay guy would respond better to a man helping out with the process than getting help from a woman. I was thinking along the lines of finding a straight Bdsm master who is skilled at turning gay guys straight through hypnosis, conditioning, different kinds of reinforcement. I don’t think most gay guys would respond to woman trying get him to become straight the same way he would to another man. I could be wrong though.

by **solidweeny** » September 8th, 2019, 1:21 pm

You are very welcome jhfromsf51,

Great do keep us updated in the group.

I tottaly agree with you that a man at an early stage would be the one to make you convert.

Never heard about what you are mentioning before. Are there Male bdsm masters that convert gays into becoming straight?

Very hot idea indeed.

by **jhfromsf51** » September 9th, 2019, 9:03 pm

Hi solidwenny,

I’m not sure if a straight Bdsm master who would take a gay guy under his wing and convert him to being straight exists , that’s just a fantasy of mine lol. I believe they are more focused on submissive women and wouldn’t really be interested.

I’ve started listing to the files and I’m definitely still gay but I did have and interesting experience while listening to curse force straight tonight. I starting having pleasurable daydreams about women while the file while playing. I was picturing myself doing some of the things described and it didn’t feel gross and yucky, it felt desirable. I’ll keep on listening and see if it continues. Although I feel the files could be better by having actual real voices that aren’t mechanical.

by **jhfromsf51** » September 11th, 2019, 1:09 am

This is getting frustrating. I’m not finding much support for what I’m trying to do. One gay erotic hypnotist told me that what I’m asking to do would violate his principles. Other people are telling me that changing your sexuality is impossible though hypnosis. But I’m not going to let the lack of support get me down. I’m going to keeping listening to the files and see what happens.

by **selfbiped** » September 11th, 2019, 12:06 pm

Don't believe them on the sexuality front. Just looking through the Curse Forced Gay thread should change your mind of that; sexuality conversion is very possible through hypnosis because it's simply stimulus control. Nothing more to it. The reason there's less gay-straight success is not because it's more mechanically difficult, but because there's less of a shame/humiliation element powering the original transformation (not that I support the shaming of gay people, but it's undeniably a factor) and because changing to be more "vanilla" is less appealing to the kinksters of this site. If you wan t to stick with the file, do so; there's nothing morally wrong about trying out a fetish. Sexuality isn't identity, and you're not attacking gay culture by trying to become straight. It's an individual choice, and you're free to make it.

...Plus, I'd love to see you succeed, lol. I need more gay-to-straight stories since the most popular one (NorCalKid) deleted his posts after he got married to a woman. You can only see them on the waybackmachine now

by **solidweeny** » September 14th, 2019, 1:55 am

Hi jhfromsf51,

I totally agree with selfbiped

Do CFS once a day for a couple of months and you will soon become the straight male converting other gay men into becoming irreversibly straight.

You will love your new you.

Do keep us updated.

Any more to convert? Who is next? Time to report and be totally converted

by **selfbiped** » September 14th, 2019, 5:40 am

How many months do you think it would take?

by **solidweeny** » September 14th, 2019, 12:45 pm

Hi selfbiped,

Give or take a month an a few days, in couple of months by listening to just once a day you are a done deal....

But by then you really do not care because you are driping about pussy more than you ever did about men.

Who is going to be our next straight convert?

by **selfbiped** » September 14th, 2019, 4:01 pm

Hmm... I'd be willing to take that dare, if you want to make it. Virgin gay here but it seems like it'd be so much hotter to be a straight guy. Should I give it a month of listening and abstaining from gay stuff to see?

by **outkast1728** » September 14th, 2019, 9:46 pm

I'll take the dare as long as i have someone to keep in near constant contact with to do it with and talk about it

by **jhfromsf51** » September 15th, 2019, 12:09 pm

Hi group,

Just thought I would post an update. Not sure how well the hypnosis is working since I still feel gay. But I noticed I have definitely been checking out women more. I went to a gay bar last night to meet a friend and a big group of young good looking women came in and I found myself focusing on them and checking out their looks and being drawn in by their energy , It wasn’t the same intense feeling as being horny for guy but there was something there. It’s like some kind of buried impulses for women are rising to the surface from time to time. I’m wondering if the hypnosis works on someone could it be because it is bringing out something that’s already there but has been suppressed or buried?

by **selfbiped** » September 16th, 2019, 8:11 am

jhfromsf51 wrote:Hi group,

Just thought I would post an update. Not sure how well the hypnosis is working since I still feel gay. But I noticed I have definitely been checking out women more. I went to a gay bar last night to meet a friend and a big group of young good looking women came in and I found myself focusing on them and checking out their looks and being drawn in by their energy , It wasn’t the same intense feeling as being horny for guy but there was something there. It’s like some kind of buried impulses for women are rising to the surface from time to time. I’m wondering if the hypnosis works on someone could it be because it is bringing out something that’s already there but has been suppressed or buried?

Yeah, definitely. Biologically, men are made to fuck women - it's possible that those desires lie dormant in even the gayest men. I think that's why the files are effective, tbh, they play on a natural biological inclination. Not that there's anything wrong with being gay, I'm just pointing it out!