Hetero Conversion and Curse Forced Straight Combined.

by **jeremyjason76** » September 20th, 2019, 3:58 am

Well, I'm back trying CFS to see if I can prove again that it won't work on me beyond a minor effect.

by **jeremyjason76** » September 20th, 2019, 9:03 am

I found the fabled Ladies file was reuploaded here. Only two listens of CFS and still queasy, but one listen to the Ladies file had some interesting immediate effects, which disappeared after orgasm. Interesting.

by **selfbiped** » September 23rd, 2019, 1:44 pm

Still haven't decided whether to listen yet! Trying to figure it out...

And jeremy, it looks like the fact that you keep coming back might be an indicator that it's what you really want

testing "just to see" if it'll work is the subconscious' way of making you do it despite your misgivings... looks like you're destined to be straight after all. I'm sure it'll work if you stuck with it.

by **jeremyjason76** » September 24th, 2019, 4:25 am

As I stated a few months ago, I do not feel that I will personally progress beyond a stage of bisexuality. I would be sexually attracted to girls on a physical level, but remain emotionally attracted to guys. One of the reasons I feel this way is that the files only really deal with changing your physical sexual reactions to stimuli. An improvement might be reached by adding something that attempts to change your emotional attractions, as that is the flip side to the sexual aspect of sexual orientation.

Another thing is I wish NorCalKid were interested in giving an update. He is the poster boy for success with turning straight, and an update on effectiveness over a few years would be of interest.

One thing that does bother me is that a couple of successes stated that they ended up having new friends in the end, implying that their old friendships didn't survive.

by **selfbiped** » September 24th, 2019, 4:53 am

Well, part of that is probably that the things they once bonded over changed; these might have been friends who went to gay bars together etc., and so wouldn't have a reason to hang out if one turned straight. I don't think they mean they lost their best best friends because of it. If you do lose someone platonic over changing your sexuality, it can't have been a very good friendship to begin with.

and also, there are some other files that focus more on the emotional aspect. Straight Male by JackStock and I'd even argue Hetero Conversion lean more into that side of things; but for the rest of it, I guess it's going off the idea that who you're sexually attracted to will generate its own kind of emotional attachment, which I think is the case for some. I might test the files myself to see how they work and so I can see if they measure up to my big talk.

And yeah... agree re: NorCalKid, but from the posts I read on an archived version of the site, he literally got married/found a girl he was in a relationship with and deleted the stuff so he woudn't have to see it anymore. Too much of a success to ever dip his toe back in I'd say lol

by **jeremyjason76** » September 25th, 2019, 3:02 am

I don't think there's much difference between CFS and HeteroConversion, except that HC is less about submissiveness. StraightMale and UltimateWomanLover both seem to be an attempt at remedying the emotional connection.

As far as new friends, I had been trying online on MeetMe and elsewhere to connect with guys who want to help a bi-curious gay guy explore the straight world, and didn't have much luck. My hope was to find a guy to help me navigate through the transition and help me get into some typical straight interests and tastes.

by **selfbiped** » September 25th, 2019, 6:44 am

What about instead of approaching guys looking for help with the conversion, you just go look for friends and pretend to be straight to start off with? Just hop on some friend making apps/services and make friends, if you can, don't bring up the transition at all. Their "help" can be indirect, just their presence will take you further along.

Ad would you consider something like those two files you listed in addendum to CFS/Ladies or whichever you like?

by **jeremyjason76** » September 25th, 2019, 11:27 am

I will try StraightMale along with CFS as a trial.

Since I don't have straight interests or mannerisms, I wonder if they will form naturally like they seemed to with NorCalKid and Kingy.

by **jeremyjason76** » October 5th, 2019, 1:09 am

I got some repeat effects as before, but changed back. I am happy being gay and it was causing me much anxiety.

by **selfbiped** » October 5th, 2019, 10:14 am

If you don't like it, probably wise to stop trying, yeah.

Anybody else listening at the moment?

by **solidweeny** » December 28th, 2019, 3:50 am

Any more males ready to be coverted? Who's next?

by **outkast1728** » December 29th, 2019, 6:14 pm

I'll do it if i have someone to talk to about it daily

by **solidweeny** » January 4th, 2020, 8:30 am

Hi there and Happy New Year. I am here for you to talk daily during and after your transformation into heterosexuality.

Sent you PM.

by **selfbiped** » January 17th, 2020, 9:17 am

Been using CFS on and off (never been consistent) for about 6 months now, and even though it's been 9 days since my last listen I'm starting to have some notably strong effects. Before, naked women were hot kind of as an abstract thing, like it'd be hot to WANT to WANT them more than them being hot by themselves... but in the last 2 days I've found myself genuinely lost imagining what it would be like to fuck pussy, finding myself staring (and I can't stop) at tits and ass, wanting to touch and feel and slap them around... what's happening to me, lol!?

by **brentdent** » February 5th, 2020, 8:38 am

I’m gonna try these. This thread has got me very interested. I’ll see if they work for me

by **garotoanakin** » February 8th, 2020, 8:21 pm

I've used those files but not consistentlly. I strugle to lesten the files every day and feel lonelly in a path most people say does not exist.

I would be happy to have friends in same boat ans support each other, maybe form a group of friends going to straightness, talk to each other and whatch for each other in order to everybody stay consistent and share experiences.

Maybe a whastapp or telegram group, were we could really stay in contact.

What do you guys think?

by **brentdent** » April 3rd, 2020, 11:32 am

garotoanakin wrote:I've used those files but not consistentlly. I strugle to lesten the files every day and feel lonelly in a path most people say does not exist.

I would be happy to have friends in same boat ans support each other, maybe form a group of friends going to straightness, talk to each other and whatch for each other in order to everybody stay consistent and share experiences.

Maybe a whastapp or telegram group, were we could really stay in contact.

What do you guys think?

Make one and post the link or whatever

by **garotoanakin** » April 4th, 2020, 12:07 pm

I've sent you a private message and email

by **brentdent** » July 5th, 2020, 3:58 pm

Updating to say I’m pretty much completely straight now. I’m totally attracted to women and trying to date (virtually or whatever we’re calling it under quarantine). Feeling pretty good.
Definitely recommend these two files + straight male by jack stock and that one titnosis loop(but that’s just my opinion)

by **MasterJack** » July 5th, 2020, 4:59 pm

How many times did you listen to them do you think?

And did you do it before going to sleep or just during the day?

by **brentdent** » July 6th, 2020, 5:51 pm

Idk exactly how many times probably more that 50? I listened to them whenever I had time and sometimes while doing other stuff. I didn’t usually do it before bed. I also would just try and do things the files suggested.

by **selfbiped** » July 13th, 2020, 2:03 pm

brentdent wrote:Idk exactly how many times probably more that 50? I listened to them whenever I had time and sometimes while doing other stuff. I didn’t usually do it before bed. I also would just try and do things the files suggested.

Since success stories are so rare, it'd be nice if you could answer a few more things for the thread, so long as they're not too personal!

1. before listening to the files, did you consider yourself to be a top or bottom (i.e, dominant or submissive)? Did this change?
2. When you say you listened 50 times ish, is that 50 times of one listen to one file? (So with roughly 30 minutes per file that's 25 hours?)
3. Have you noticed any personality changes as some listeners did, to become more masculine or stereotypically masculine?
4. Any comments on how it feels to be straight? Feel free to wax lyrical on this, lol, I'm sure we'd all love to know how it feels!

by **brentdent** » July 17th, 2020, 5:24 pm

Woah lots of questions. I was a top. 50 is just an approximation of listening to all of those files a lot. I wasn’t really keeping track. I think I did get more masculine. I also moved and have made new friends who are just good bro’s so maybe that’s part of it.

by **MasterJack** » July 22nd, 2020, 4:47 am

Hey Brent I’ve got a question if you wouldn’t mind asking.

Do you feel any difference in your sexually arousal to women compared to your previous sexual arousal to men?

by **MasterJack** » August 4th, 2020, 7:58 am

Just a quick background bio. I'm 32 years old. Been watching shemale porn since age 18, and got into sissy around 2009, and feminization stuff around 2013. Dated and married a girl since 2016. Sex wasn't great since the beginning. Originally had trouble coming, was still into shemale porn up until today. I told her about it a couple of years ago so she knows. Been living in a sexless or little sex marriage, it hasn't been the biggest issue.

Anyway recently (last few weeks) I've been using my own self hypnosis (not available here, though you can access one of my previous ladies files someone uploaded here) to try and return my sex drive back to pussy and breasts. A week ago I recently watched the movie apocolypse now, there's a scene in there where you see the naked breasts of a french woman. All I'll say is, the feeling you get from being turned on by a woman, doesn't compare to the feeling you get being turned on by shemales or sissys or cock. I mean the feeling wasn't explosive, but it felt so much better and different. It's not the same turned on feeling. And this isn't from the hypnosis alone, as I've used feminization hypnosis in the past and to increase my horniness for shemales and sissys, and the horniness just isn't the same.

It reminds me of my post previously on here which I wrote:

It felt like the beauty of women being sexy was at another level. Like I've been living on horniness and lust alone when watching porn. Now there's this other level of sexiness to it all.

I've also been having more sex with my wife. It's still more mechanical, as in I haven't reignited that horniness feeling to the full degree.

For example at the moment, sissy or shemale porn doesn't really turn me on much. The same goes for women and straight porn.

But I've had times after a session, where I've seen the sexiness of a woman. Like her butt when shes walking down the street, it's a different level of turn on, so much better.

I also remember a previous time when fucking my wife when I was drunk after doing a lot of self hypnosis around this subject before. And it felt like real horniness, a real turned on feeling. Something I have never experienced the last 14 years of sissy or shemale porn or feminization or increasing my libido.

There's definitely a missing component from getting horny to other stuff then there is to women. Even though horniness can feel strong for either. There's an extra sexiness, spark, spice for being horny for women.

I will say even though I've never used hypnosis to make me think women of their parts were disgusting or unattractive. When you go into other stuff like sissy and shemale stuff. Pussy does become foreign and unattractive to you. The main reason I think shemale porn is a straight porn fetish is because you get turned on by the cock (because you have one yourself), and then the illusion of a female body. Plus I was into anal straight porn before that (ages 16-18), and so anal becomes the new norm and not pussy (though I find fucking anal disgusting in real life when I tried it, even after years of the illusion). So I think you don't necessarily have to create an aversion to pussy, you'll naturally start finding it disgusting when you indulge your sex drive in anal and shemale/sissy porn long enough.

The whole point of this, is my aversion to pussy has lessened significantly, I'm not so disgusted by it, it's not as foreign.

The last point I have to make, is I had to give myself suggestions to only do straight/women hypnosis stuff. Because there was definitely a battle within me, that even though I have experienced this wonderful spark I never got with any of the sissy stuff and want to amplify that spark as it feels so much better and it only comes from women, I kept wanted to go back into the kinky sissy stuff as well. Thankfully I'm more asexual and mechanical at the moment. Neither shemale/sissy or women really turn me on though they can still make me erect, and so whenever I do a session I don't struggle with focusing on the straight stuff from now on.

Then again, while I never got that into being a real sissy but more making me feel like it and turned on about it, so I never really wore clothes. I might after I finally sway my mind to women, indulge in a kink that I love wearing some lingerie when fucking my wife or watching straight porn. I have no idea lol.

Anyway a lot of rambling. If I make any significant steps I'll be sure to update.

by **garotoanakin** » August 4th, 2020, 7:33 pm

Hello Jack.

I still feel that strugle im my mind when using you hetero conversion file, altough i feel its the strongest hypno file i EVER have listen. I think the problem is the attempt to remove the sexual attraction for males has my subconsciouns mind reject that because it does not want to lose a pleaserous thing.

Considering that, i think a more realistic goal is not heerossexuality but bissexuality instead: just add something that pleasurous rather than remove

by **MasterJack** » August 14th, 2020, 7:41 pm

You’re mixed me up with the wrong Jack, you’re thinking of jackstock, I don’t create or distribute my files anymore, I only create and use them for my own goals.

The only file I have up here now is ladies4 which was reuploaded by someone else. You might want to try that out if you like, some people found it effective for helping arousal for women.

by **garotoanakin** » August 15th, 2020, 12:14 pm

You’re mixed me up with the wrong Jack, you’re thinking of jackstock, I don’t create or distribute my files anymore, I only create and use them for my own goals.

The only file I have up here now is ladies4 which was reuploaded by someone else. You might want to try that out if you like, some people found it effective for helping arousal for women.

Yes, my mistake.

Anyway, i am planning to start a group with some other guys interested on hypnosis for sexuality conversion and i have some theories in that regard. Please send me a private message

by **selfbiped** » August 17th, 2020, 3:00 pm

MasterJack wrote:Anyway recently (last few weeks) I've been using my own self hypnosis (not available here, though you can access one of my previous ladies files someone uploaded here) to try and return my sex drive back to pussy and breasts. A week ago I recently watched the movie apocolypse now, there's a scene in there where you see the naked breasts of a french woman. All I'll say is, the feeling you get from being turned on by a woman, doesn't compare to the feeling you get being turned on by shemales or sissys or cock. I mean the feeling wasn't explosive, but it felt so much better and different. It's not the same turned on feeling. And this isn't from the hypnosis alone, as I've used feminization hypnosis in the past and to increase my horniness for shemales and sissys, and the horniness just isn't the same.

As someone who's been dabbling in this for a few years now, I agree with this. I've felt effects from these files many times, and though I haven't got them to stick (mainly due to laziness, the longest I've ever listened in a row is legit like one week), it always feels so, so great when it does. There's something different about the arousal, and it might just be the novelty of being attracted to something "different" to usual that works on so many with CFG but... idk. It's a great feeling. This thread's making me want to get back to it myself.

by **jeremyjason76** » August 20th, 2020, 3:35 am

So, here I am. Despite trying to avoid it, I'm back to listening to HeteroConversion. Apparently, my mind is caught in the addiction of it. I don't want this, but I'm drawn back in.

by **jeremyjason76** » August 22nd, 2020, 7:48 am

Been listening for about three days, so far. Sort of in a bi place. Girls went from gross to matter-of-fact to wanting to touch, kiss, and lick them. Guys are still in a stronger position, but they have dulled a bit. Have been listening to it low on a loop while doing things. I'm definitely caught again.

by **jeremyjason76** » August 22nd, 2020, 12:12 pm

Tried straight porn for the firsr time in a couple days. Beginning to put myself in the place of the guy.

by **jeremyjason76** » August 23rd, 2020, 2:46 am

Tonight at work, I was checking out a girl, gazing at her chest and legs coming out of her shorts.

by **jeremyjason76** » August 23rd, 2020, 2:57 am

I like this bi phase I'm in. I'm wondering if I should switch to a bi file instead. I am actually at peace with liking girls this time, but am not sure if I want to lose being attracted to men. I assume that if I were to continue with this file, I'll eventually not care.

by **jeremyjason76** » August 23rd, 2020, 9:09 am

I tried gay porn. Usually I'm a bottom, but I wanted to be the top. Pretty good turn-on. Then tried straight porn. Stronger turn-on. Guy disappeared into background, put me in his place. Second time cumming today.

by **MasterJack** » August 24th, 2020, 2:17 pm

Keep us updated and go all the way, it’ll be worth it.

by **jeremyjason76** » August 25th, 2020, 1:01 am

Sort of vague with girls, attracted but hazy, when looking at pics. Guys, sort of same, but less hazy. With porn, was into gay, but switched to straight and definitely more reaction. Got harder than with just guys. Only was looking, not jerking off.

by **jeremyjason76** » August 25th, 2020, 9:43 am

Gay porn, I'm more admiring the guys. Interest seems to be on a wane. Straight porn, I'm getting hard and continue to put myself in the guy's place.

It's like I'm admiring the guys, but want to be friends, not sex partners.

by **Glasnerven** » August 26th, 2020, 1:33 am

Interesting. I'm already (mostly) straight but I wouldn't mind having my sex drive and lust for women enhanced.

I wouldn't mind having my lust for hard cocks enhanced either.

by **jeremyjason76** » August 26th, 2020, 2:54 pm

This will do the first, but not the second.

by **garotoanakin** » December 29th, 2020, 9:01 pm

I've listening the straightmale file, by Jackstock every day for 5 days now

Now im having spontaneous thoughts of straight sex with strong erections in random moments during the day. This morning i had to masturbate looking at straight porn on my cellphone

by **MasterJack** » May 10th, 2021, 11:44 am

I have an update on this. So recently I’ve been self medicating with pramipexole for my anhedonic bipolar depression (now up to 3mg and going to stay there). However one thing I noticed when I started this, was all of a sudden trance felt so much easier to obtain. However at the same all of a sudden my twitching got really bad when doing self hypnosis, so bad that I couldn’t trance. So I found out what it was called (can’t remember now), found a pubmed article saying 5htp can help, started taking 200mg 5htp, and now twitching is minimum. I won’t go into this anymore or some of the small side effects, all I will say is the above medicine felt like it’s really effected my ability to trance positively.

Now the hypnosis stuff:

So I start training with Cardigans 3 trance files. I think within a day, after not that many listens, 4 listens max (of the first two files), I am now able to go into a deep trance using his 3rd instant trance file. Also reading his posts on here, telling people not to focus on the words but on the trance feeling helped me a lot, because I always thought I needed to focus on the words.

Anyway I had a file which has the following suggestion in there which was only repeated 10 times:

Every day your libido and horniness are becoming stronger and stronger, and all your sexual desire is for your wife, because you find your wifes breasts, pussy, and body, look so sexy, beautiful, and taboo. which makes you really horny, sexually aroused, and feel lots of sexual pleasure. this feels so natural and normal to you, and feels like it's always been this way forever.

Well after one listen, my interest in sissy porn diminished greatly, and my wife showed me her pussy later that day and there was the seed of sexual attraction to it. All from listening to the above suggestion 10 times only once! 2 perspectives changed in a matter of minutes.

I’m absolutely stunned how all of a sudden my ability to go into trance and suggestibility has gone up.

What’s more crazy is I was ready to leave my wife literally a week prior. See when I started taking pramipexole, I became hyper sexual, compulsively watching porn and compulsively writing erotic hypnosis scripts. One of those scripts was about becoming a transgender and washing away all guilt, shame, worry etc..., also had feminising suggestions as well, and after just one listen I shaved all my body hair, and told my wife I wanted to leave her because I’m tired of fighting these feelings (which was a lie because I only had them that for a day). Anyway my point was, I’ve gone from one extreme to the other, and all with simple compounded (repeated) suggestions.

Anyway I’ll keep this thread updated, when I saw that sexy spark of my wife’s pussy yesterday for a second, I definitely want more. However I have other problems I need to address which are a higher priority. Insomnia, sleep routine, sleep apnea/snoring, and cigarettes. Hopefully I can address these fast, and then move on to the more fun stuff soon.

by **grover27** » May 11th, 2021, 3:08 pm

MasterJack
I've experienced rapid swings like that too so I know where you are at. I'm curious about the file that you listened to that renewed your interest in your wife. Could you share what file it is?

by **MasterJack** » May 11th, 2021, 5:45 pm

They're my own files I make with text to speech software. Making files like this is literally the quickest way for me to make hypnosis files, change the script, and add or take away suggestions. They're very much tailor made for my goals and problems, not just regaining sexual attraction to my wife. Though I haven't been able to do hypnosis recently because I developed a tickly cough these past few days.

If you have the ability to trance using an induction, for example using Cardigans Instant Trance, then all you have to do is put that file first in a playlist, and your file second, and the worlds your oyster.

If you're interested in making your own, download Balabolka (it's free), buy the Salli Ivona voice (or if you can get hold of the file Salli.exe, it should come with a 30 day free trial), and start making. I did make 3 changes in the software though, setting the volume to 80 and changing the "length of pauses between sentences (in milliseconds)" to 300, and "length of pauses between paragraphs (in milliseconds)" to 500 which are found in Options > Settings > Pauses.

The famous Bambi hypnosis uses the Salli voice, something I was using before Bambi ever came out, but it's literally the best in my opinion.

But even though I've seen various changes here and there on my goals/problems, my journey has really only started afresh again since I feel my ability to go into hypnosis has suddenly gotten better. Only time will tell whether it actually has, or I'm just over confident is has. Hence I need more time to tell. But I'll try and keep this thread updated with my results.

by **grover27** » May 12th, 2021, 11:27 am

MasterJack - Thanks for the reply. Yes I use Balabolka and then change the pitch, tempo and make other edits using Audacity. I've uploaded several creations onto WMM that I have done that way. Like you, I also have more personal scripts that I have made more focused on direct goals. I've had varying success with my own files, but admittedly, I haven't given them the full time they deserve. I am currently listening to some affirmations that I have made in this safe fashion and am trying to listen to those for at least 30 days, which is more than I have ever listened to anything else before.

by **outkast1728** » May 12th, 2021, 1:00 pm

Can yall not take up this thread for that? This is a decision from the topic and is annoying scroll past

by **warren101** » May 12th, 2021, 1:36 pm

No body else has used this thread since Dec of 2020. At least someone has used this thread.

by **MasterJack** » May 12th, 2021, 1:44 pm

grover - I have the same problem. I have too many goals and don't stick to one long enough. Then when it comes to the erotic stuff, I go back and forth with adding transgender/sissy suggestions and then back to just using straight suggestions, and then creating a multifaceted goal script. I made the decision today to just focus on one goal, which are straight suggestions, and I'm hoping I'll just stick with it for 1-2 months. Once I get that sexual attraction back to my wife and real sex, I can mess with other suggestions for goals and erotic stuff. Whenever I've had a glimpse of the sexiness of women when experimenting with this in the past (and also my recent experience 2 days ago), it always feels way more powerful than all the transgender stuff, the sexiness is on a higher level imo, at least for me it is. Also I have a beautiful wife, so would be good to make use of her, rather than having a low sex marriage.

outkast: the threads been dead since Dec 2020, and we're all here to discuss straight conversion. Maybe use some hypnosis not to get annoyed at such small things.

by **grover27** » May 12th, 2021, 6:57 pm

Outkast - all of these threads take minor detours occasionally but I respect your displeasure for the annoyance.
MasterJack - And I believe this comment is actually highly relevant to this thread - I think you have hit the nail on the hit about focusing on one path. That is exactly what I am doing (I almost said "trying to do") because I realized that I am totally conflating my erotic pleasures with my personal improvement goals and there is no congruence whatsoever. As a result, I am likely wasting my time. So to highlight that point for anyone else who is reading this, if your goal is truly hetero conversion, you shouldn't also be listening to sissy hypno, watching sissy hypno, etc. If you want to be straight, you have to go all in or your subconscious will just reject it.

by **MasterJack** » May 14th, 2021, 6:41 pm

Well it seems like I must be highly suggestible these days, or it's because I took my pramipexole after 2 days of forgetting. But the last time I listened to my file was early in the morning before going to sleep.

This is maybe a 2nd or 3rd listen overall. Not many at all, and I'm always updating my file here and there.

Anyway this morning I noticed my libido was down for transgender porn again, more down than last time (but this could have been not taking my prami). But I did tell my wife that I think the hypnosis file is working because of this.

Then in the evening my wife has a bath, and after getting out and drying, lies naked flat down on the bed and asks me to give her a massage because her lower back was hurting. Well I started to see glimpses of sexiness of her bum while massaging her, nothing major, but glimpses, and was also giving her bum and back small kisses here and there. But what's next is the most shocking change in behaviour. I kept spreading her cheeks because I wanted to check out her asshole, and it looked sexy to me. But then I went in and started licking it, I didn't poke or prod, just licking the outside of it up and down. Why this is shocking, is I have never wanted to do that in my life, and don't believe I ever have. The other thing that's shocking, is it isn't mentioned in my hypnosis script, instead breasts, pussy, and body are, but not bum and asshole. Obviously they are both part of the body, but it shocks me that I was more interested in her asshole then her pussy which I had suggestions for, though I had a glimpse of sexiness of her pussy 2 days ago. Anyway my mind is racing with thoughts of giving her anal sex in the future, I start getting a hard erection that won't go down, but she was tired, and me too tbh, but I ended up fighting it and staying awake because of the sexual thoughts of her asshole and bum and giving her anal sex were just on my mind, that I had to update my hypnosis file to include references to them 2 as well now lmao.

Hopefully I'll keep on progressing and update here with any other progress.