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What files work best?

PostPosted: January 19th, 2011, 2:21 am
by radosity
Just as the topic asks, I'm interested in knowing what files work best. I've listened to several, with no success. I'm quite the overthinker, so that's probably a big part of the problem.

Anyone in my position had success with certain files?

PostPosted: January 19th, 2011, 3:25 am
by Fizbin
First, a few things on general principle:

1. Different people will respond differently to any given file.
2. Behavioral changes are easier than physical changes.
3. Short-term/temporary is easier than long-term/permanent.
4. Trance-time effects (particularly "experiences") are more likely to be successful than post-hypnotic suggestions.
5. The more radical the effect, the more you must (at some level) really want the effect to affect you.

No matter what effect you are trying to achieve, a good induction really helps. So does focusing on one effect at a time. Many of the effect files have either no induction, or a fairly lightweight one (also called a "deepener") - watch the descriptions carefully. Check out the dedicated induction files (Note: the "Bubble" is labeled as an induction - it isn't.)

Almost everyone who has commented seems to go under to some degree with Blink's Basic Induction. You might consider using that, followed by a single effect file, to see where that gets you.

Re: What files work best?

PostPosted: January 19th, 2011, 7:05 pm
by bandler
radosity wrote:Just as the topic asks, I'm interested in knowing what files work best. I've listened to several, with no success. I'm quite the overthinker, so that's probably a big part of the problem.

Anyone in my position had success with certain files?


I am an overthinker too, and I just had success with Cardigan's Lucid Dreams file. I listened to it once to make sure it was not trying to slip in any sneaky stuff, and then once for real. I went into trance pretty deep, and had lucid dreams the next morning.

PostPosted: January 20th, 2011, 4:28 am
by radosity
Fizbin wrote:First, a few things on general principle:

1. Different people will respond differently to any given file.
2. Behavioral changes are easier than physical changes.
3. Short-term/temporary is easier than long-term/permanent.
4. Trance-time effects (particularly "experiences") are more likely to be successful than post-hypnotic suggestions.
5. The more radical the effect, the more you must (at some level) really want the effect to affect you.

No matter what effect you are trying to achieve, a good induction really helps. So does focusing on one effect at a time. Many of the effect files have either no induction, or a fairly lightweight one (also called a "deepener") - watch the descriptions carefully. Check out the dedicated induction files (Note: the "Bubble" is labeled as an induction - it isn't.)

Almost everyone who has commented seems to go under to some degree with Blink's Basic Induction. You might consider using that, followed by a single effect file, to see where that gets you.


Thanks for the suggestion. I tried confusion induction as it seemed to work well with people who think too much, and I went pretty deep. I had moderate success with another file.

And bandler, I've actually tried that file before, but to no avail. That was years ago though, I'll definitely give it another try. Thanks for the suggestions, you two.

PostPosted: January 20th, 2011, 6:38 am
by Fizbin
You're welcome!

Blink's Basic is an Ericksonian induction, which you might consider a "confusion" induction, but it is more "distraction" as there are a lot of different threads he makes you follow. Analytical types in particular seem to go under quite well with it.

PostPosted: January 20th, 2011, 11:06 am
by bandler
radosity wrote:

... I tried confusion induction as it seemed to work well with people who think too much, and I went pretty deep. I had moderate success with another file...


You might also try my file - counting confusion - It is just an induction, but it is a modified confusion induction with fractionation that works well on overthinkers and analytical types.

PostPosted: January 20th, 2011, 2:59 pm
by ocntrl
Feel free to try my Total Relaxation (remix) in the free section or if you are premium any of the other inductions I did.
They work ok for some people.

PostPosted: January 20th, 2011, 5:13 pm
by slutinmyhead
Check out my files. Other than Harvard Suggestibility (which is more traditional), my inductions tend to work pretty well for overthinkers.