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Has my deep trance erased my light trance work...?

PostPosted: February 5th, 2013, 1:56 pm
by maverika
I finally got a deep trance the other night of SIMH 'Hypnosis works too well'. My first time blacking out also, i came back just before the end of the file(it runs for approx 30m), my breathing was very heavy, and my eyes droopy, i also found it hard moving. So it goes to the next file and the pleasant sensation of EMG's words washed over me,(this confirmed for me i was indeed in trance and not just 'feeling sleepy') I used cumCurseBody followed by CCS full, jogging to halfway through to just get the body and awakener.
As i came out of trance, with a bit of difficulty i might add, i did feel a bit off, i couldn't put my finger on it, i felt contented, very VERY relaxed and, a little bit odd. I have to admit CSS/CC just barely work, the compulsions are so-so and dont always activate. This at least had been my experience with my normal level of trance, so i was a little surprised the files yet again didn;t seem to have any increased level of compulsion.

Now for those not reading my other thread, i recently devised a reinforcer subliminal file for wearing panties, it reinforces wearing panties, to the point where you may actually struggle to get them off! It also helps reinforce your sissy/bimbo/subcon nickname. So, you can say aloud, and actually address your subconscious with short questions and instructions. This has worked extremely well for the last few weeks, with me occasionally listening to CCS and GG panties/eternal sissy happiness + Bimbo Blessing 2. I love to wear my panties and feel confident and happy in them, i've even become bolder and now sneak them into my normal washing and dry them inside my socks to hide them! ;)
I tried to recently check the degree of reinforcement on removing the panties recently, i still feel sexy in them and happy, when i put them on. However, the reinforcement has disappeared! I used to be able to say 'take of your panties' and my voice would say straight back 'i cant take off my panties' and i couldn't, through compulsion, remove them!
Now this has weakened, there's a very small degree of resistance, and that's overcome with almost no effort.

This has only happened since the deeper trance, has this happened to anyone else? It actually feels like almost the last 3 weeks of sessions have all gone. I actually feel very neutral and relaxed, like no sessions whatsoever have taken. I have some residual feelings, but largely...i feel a bit like a blank slate.

I was wondering of this is like the dual alphabet thing, you know they say that 'a' is different to 'A' and you dont just learn 26 letters you have to learn 52, (even size is relevant in understanding a capital letter) do i need to experience different levels of trance to maintain different types of post hypno suggestions?

I have noticed while out and about, one post hypno sugg remains in that i no longer perv over pretty girls, i just perv over their make-up, clothes and manner instead. I still study them, although this feels less intently than it had been previously too.

Thoughts?

M 8O

PostPosted: February 5th, 2013, 8:27 pm
by Endo
Wow, this is unexplored territory. I have a feeling IACurious knows something about this.

Several people (myself included) have experienced blackouts as we've become more accustomed to hypnosis. Personally, I can't say one way or another which is more effective, being awake or blacking out being "awake", but Foxfuz told me that (s?)he has had stronger hypnosis with blackouts. (I actually haven't tranced in at least a month, so my memory of how I respond to all this stuff is very hazy.)

I have a few questions for you: Did you notice the changes right away (the next day)? Have you blacked out since then? Have you listened to your files since then?

PostPosted: February 6th, 2013, 2:51 pm
by maverika
Endo wrote:Wow, this is unexplored territory. I have a feeling IACurious knows something about this.

Several people (myself included) have experienced blackouts as we've become more accustomed to hypnosis. Personally, I can't say one way or another which is more effective, being awake or blacking out being "awake", but Foxfuz told me that (s?)he has had stronger hypnosis with blackouts. (I actually haven't tranced in at least a month, so my memory of how I respond to all this stuff is very hazy.)

I have a few questions for you: Did you notice the changes right away (the next day)? Have you blacked out since then? Have you listened to your files since then?


Okay so, I noticed the following morning as i have a negative reinforcer compulsion to not take of my panties, i always try it out, as, once i touch my panties then the positive reinforcer kicks in. Lets just call it passive/ aggressive reinforcement for the moment. If i hadn't been able to move the knickers with a negative, i should have at the moment of contact(where the positive kicks in) wanted to keep them on. Thats what made me initially suspicious. I then tried to stare into middle distance, to lightly trance, and perhaps bring something forward. Nothing. I've also dropped some physical movements, my limp wrist has evaporated, as has playing with my hair, i have shoulder length hair, when i wake up, a marked diff since using sissy/femme files, is that as i lay there, getting my bearings, i play with my hair. I used to stroke my beard! I'm attributing this to learned behaviour(observation leading to emulation). Anyway, thats all gone.

I used the simh file with a panties file/overlapped with my reinforcer last night, I felt a very familiar sensation come back over me for this. But the effects seem to be trance duration effective only, although this morning i did experience some disorientation, similar to when i first started using files from this site and i would basically be in bed for 1-2hrs in the morning, just trying to allow my thoughts to align correctly.

I appear to blackout everytime i use that file, my usual induction files will trance me(light-medium) in about 10mins and i will normally be fairly functional(can move arms, watch things, fiddle with playlist) This one puts very deep,(reflected by breathing and when i watch, open eyes, its usually only for very short periods, a few mins) arms are persistently heavy.

I do feel when using the files under deeper trance, it does feel more 'weighty', i think thats the best way to describe it, not ness with more gravitas, but just more, important.
Comments very welcome...

~M~

PostPosted: February 6th, 2013, 11:04 pm
by Foxfuz
I see I was quote on this. My blackouts actually started to fade my effects a little after I posted that. I found that staying awake and alert does have it's benifits. The best thing to do in hypnosis is to not get distracted. Generally you do remember things during a hypnotic trance but amnesia is rare if not suggested. Blanking out does have it's advantages but many hypnotists would rather have you aware then to have you what might be falling asleep on them. I'm not sure about the exacts but all I have to say is that you shouldn't get distracted and keep your focus on the hypnotist.

But, if you find that blanking out to be beneficial then go for it. But, if you find better results being aware during trance then I would suggest you keep yourself aware.

PostPosted: February 6th, 2013, 11:06 pm
by Foxfuz
P.s. Why I feel that being aware is better for me is because, when I hypnotized myself and I started to black out, I shocked myself awake because I was the hypnotist and I had to stay aware of what I was saying.