Getting there..strange scenario. Any Advice?
Posted: August 27th, 2008, 8:09 pmhello all, I'm a 22 year old guy that has had an interest in hypnosis for a while now. I can remember that I started to pratice and get into it at around the age of 15. I started to get the interest when occasionaly I would have naturel lucid dreams. When I looked this up online and discovered more about it and how hypno can help/is beeing lucid, I decided to start to pratice it.
To be honest the easy part is to hypnotise people. I am still amazed at how easy I can hypnotise my freinds etc etc. But my primary reason for learing this is for my own self.
In my teen years I tried various methods to help with lucid dreaming. I got into the routine of reality checks etc. I was able to get lucid a bit more but nothing that great and my control was never great or id get exited and snap out of it. I even tried the WILD technique and as wired as this sounds. I would never get it. But there was the od rare occasion lets say it was early in the morning like around 7 am I would get up to go to the washroom and go right back to bed.. a few times I was able to just close my eyes and Wild and within a few moments I was in a lucid dream. Wasnt very long lasting or any more special then the other ones. Just was strange to me that this only worked when I was still half asleep but it makes sence in a way since the brainwaves are still close to delta I assume anyways. Now with not much success today I am still pritty well at the same level.
What my goal is and has been since 15 is id like to just be able to self trigger myself into this deep state. Get my brain down to those freqencies at will rather then having to wait hours for it to set in on its own.
This way I could experiance this deep level of awareness at will anytime.Now I know its possible. And maybe the hard part for me is already done since I can and have lucid dreamed and felt it for myself.
So still not much luck. a few times a day I try and medetate and relax and do some self hypno and also listen to a few audio files. My problem seems to be anxiety. I have a naturel tendensy to it also that does not help!
I have no problems to relax the first part of hypno where your body gets light you cant feel it no more it gets heavy etc etc. But once its all over and its time to go deeper everytime thats where the anxiety kicks in the mind goes OMG im there or I can feel myself drifting deeper (its a great feelling that I can't describe in words)and it sets me right out of the lite trance. if its not that ill start thinking of my breathing parterns how all of a sudden i feel like im not getting anough air or body parts start to itch. (anything to get me aware of my body again)think of a stupid destration and i prob had it! So more or less 7 years of trying and with strong dedication and not much farter ahead.
So now im still trying everyday I really want this and seriosuly after all this time it should be easy for me. I more then proven my will to want this. I know how the outlook of it can affect its outcome so I always been strong and postive and faithful and its not like I never had experiences so I can blame it on disbeleif or imposibilty!
So I was just wondering if anyone would have any tips so I can get on with this darn thing :( heeeeelp lol
But with all the reading and research I found something of interst on line. Its a device called the neurophone. it more or less converts sound to high freq and translates it directly into the brain bypass the ears true the skin conduct ( look it up it really works!) Now this is great cause this meens.
I could play a steady lets say delta wave by beeing hocked up to this unit. and having the tone play directly into the brain. It forces it without control or choise down to that state. (if you do some reading on this it was used long long time ago in some countries millitary. They would more or less tie down the poor dude and just simply hock up the electrodes to the head. Play the brainwave freq in it and then feed the poor dude anything they want and everything would just sink in since they were able to bypass the whole induction thing to bring someone down and to keep them there.)
So thats my idea. But there are a few problems....
1 Is the neurophone is like over 600$ way over prised for the parts needed. But this site has the scemetics to some you can build yourself with a handful or radio shack parts for a few bucks! but im not that tallented. Here is the link for anyone whos Interested
http://home.dmv.com/~tbastian/nuro.htm
one of the circuits seems super easy. Just a 8 watt audio amp IC and a couple parts. Dono on its performance.......
2 Well im not to sure how I would play the tone directly. See I can't use some of the brainwave softwares out there cause they dont produce the tone directly. And im not to sure if a computer sound card can playback such a low freq. I know not by speakers but if it can output it and then hock up to neuro line in. I should be able to get the wave direcly. But then again what software if it can be done? or audio device would i need to produce those low freq tones?
So if I could figure out those 2 issues. I could be able to hock myself into the neurophone play Theta waves and then lisen to my hyp audio files true normal head phones. I would think this would create much more of a kick to its effects no? I really dont know.. just a tought.
Now I really can't think or find of other ways that could get me there quick or even there someday soon. Again if anyone has got sme ideas that could help me please share! Crossing over to this level is been a big priority in my life :D and it sucks I can bring my friends there with just a few words!!!!!!! :roll:
To be honest the easy part is to hypnotise people. I am still amazed at how easy I can hypnotise my freinds etc etc. But my primary reason for learing this is for my own self.
In my teen years I tried various methods to help with lucid dreaming. I got into the routine of reality checks etc. I was able to get lucid a bit more but nothing that great and my control was never great or id get exited and snap out of it. I even tried the WILD technique and as wired as this sounds. I would never get it. But there was the od rare occasion lets say it was early in the morning like around 7 am I would get up to go to the washroom and go right back to bed.. a few times I was able to just close my eyes and Wild and within a few moments I was in a lucid dream. Wasnt very long lasting or any more special then the other ones. Just was strange to me that this only worked when I was still half asleep but it makes sence in a way since the brainwaves are still close to delta I assume anyways. Now with not much success today I am still pritty well at the same level.
What my goal is and has been since 15 is id like to just be able to self trigger myself into this deep state. Get my brain down to those freqencies at will rather then having to wait hours for it to set in on its own.
This way I could experiance this deep level of awareness at will anytime.Now I know its possible. And maybe the hard part for me is already done since I can and have lucid dreamed and felt it for myself.
So still not much luck. a few times a day I try and medetate and relax and do some self hypno and also listen to a few audio files. My problem seems to be anxiety. I have a naturel tendensy to it also that does not help!
I have no problems to relax the first part of hypno where your body gets light you cant feel it no more it gets heavy etc etc. But once its all over and its time to go deeper everytime thats where the anxiety kicks in the mind goes OMG im there or I can feel myself drifting deeper (its a great feelling that I can't describe in words)and it sets me right out of the lite trance. if its not that ill start thinking of my breathing parterns how all of a sudden i feel like im not getting anough air or body parts start to itch. (anything to get me aware of my body again)think of a stupid destration and i prob had it! So more or less 7 years of trying and with strong dedication and not much farter ahead.
So now im still trying everyday I really want this and seriosuly after all this time it should be easy for me. I more then proven my will to want this. I know how the outlook of it can affect its outcome so I always been strong and postive and faithful and its not like I never had experiences so I can blame it on disbeleif or imposibilty!
So I was just wondering if anyone would have any tips so I can get on with this darn thing :( heeeeelp lol
But with all the reading and research I found something of interst on line. Its a device called the neurophone. it more or less converts sound to high freq and translates it directly into the brain bypass the ears true the skin conduct ( look it up it really works!) Now this is great cause this meens.
I could play a steady lets say delta wave by beeing hocked up to this unit. and having the tone play directly into the brain. It forces it without control or choise down to that state. (if you do some reading on this it was used long long time ago in some countries millitary. They would more or less tie down the poor dude and just simply hock up the electrodes to the head. Play the brainwave freq in it and then feed the poor dude anything they want and everything would just sink in since they were able to bypass the whole induction thing to bring someone down and to keep them there.)
So thats my idea. But there are a few problems....
1 Is the neurophone is like over 600$ way over prised for the parts needed. But this site has the scemetics to some you can build yourself with a handful or radio shack parts for a few bucks! but im not that tallented. Here is the link for anyone whos Interested
http://home.dmv.com/~tbastian/nuro.htm
one of the circuits seems super easy. Just a 8 watt audio amp IC and a couple parts. Dono on its performance.......
2 Well im not to sure how I would play the tone directly. See I can't use some of the brainwave softwares out there cause they dont produce the tone directly. And im not to sure if a computer sound card can playback such a low freq. I know not by speakers but if it can output it and then hock up to neuro line in. I should be able to get the wave direcly. But then again what software if it can be done? or audio device would i need to produce those low freq tones?
So if I could figure out those 2 issues. I could be able to hock myself into the neurophone play Theta waves and then lisen to my hyp audio files true normal head phones. I would think this would create much more of a kick to its effects no? I really dont know.. just a tought.
Now I really can't think or find of other ways that could get me there quick or even there someday soon. Again if anyone has got sme ideas that could help me please share! Crossing over to this level is been a big priority in my life :D and it sucks I can bring my friends there with just a few words!!!!!!! :roll: