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falling out of trance

PostPosted: April 12th, 2005, 7:36 pm
by Folsom_god
hey i find when im in the middle of the mp3 that i sometimes lose focus and fall out of trance what do i do?

PostPosted: April 12th, 2005, 7:39 pm
by danmalara
Try really hard to stay in the trance. :D

PostPosted: April 12th, 2005, 7:40 pm
by Folsom_god
the one i try is the female orgasm one sooo i dont think im trying to get out of it.....at all

PostPosted: April 12th, 2005, 7:42 pm
by Hatebreeder
A lot of people report doing things to focus on the words help. Just affirm them in your head, repeat them or mouth them worked for me. If you browse similar threads other people gave a fair bit of decent advice.
Files that suggest regulating breathing helped me too. I had to make a bit of an effort to do it, so it didn't let me wander as much.
Have a nosey, see if anything catches your eye.

PostPosted: April 12th, 2005, 7:43 pm
by Folsom_god
i shall try that for trighousecat and trigfreeze MAN I WANT THOSE TO WORK

PostPosted: April 12th, 2005, 7:54 pm
by Hatebreeder
Strangely enough, even though TrigFreeze worked for me brilliantly and played a big role in getting my head into the whole hypno-lark it only really worked properly for me when the trigger was voiced by someone else (i.e. the trigfreeze test on the wmm yahoo group).

PostPosted: April 12th, 2005, 7:57 pm
by Folsom_god
itll be fine dan will test it

PostPosted: April 12th, 2005, 8:01 pm
by danmalara
I think he ment over a mic, because he said "voiced it" (correct me if i'm wrong)

"Self Triggering"

PostPosted: April 12th, 2005, 8:01 pm
by rodentgrl
I've got a kinda good alternative if you find self triggering not working cause it needs to be in another voice...

http://www.research.att.com/projects/tts/demo.html
Let's you type in whatever you want, and it sends you a voice recording of it... so it's your computer... I guess that counts as someone else :wink:

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PostPosted: April 12th, 2005, 8:04 pm
by danmalara
lol.....i mean (giggle), then what??? If you do a trig freeze one, how are u going to un-freeze yourself?? (Cool site though!!)

Evil little fluffball...

PostPosted: April 12th, 2005, 8:12 pm
by rodentgrl
Maybe that's what the point was (giggle)

Seriously... it sends them as wav files... you do each trigger (on & off) and you use something even as simple as Sound Recorder to space them apart for how long you want frozen

So you can freeze and unfreeze yourself, depending on how long you want to leave yourself frozen, that's how much dead air you set in the middle

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PostPosted: April 12th, 2005, 8:15 pm
by danmalara
That's a really good idea!! You're cool person. If EMG ever creates a buddy list thing (like I suggested he should do), I'll add you!! (giggle) lol

Evil Little Fluffball

PostPosted: April 12th, 2005, 8:28 pm
by rodentgrl
:D :D :D

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PostPosted: April 12th, 2005, 8:41 pm
by danmalara
(giggle) Are you really an "Evil Little Fluffball?"

PostPosted: April 12th, 2005, 8:51 pm
by Folsom_god
i wanna be a kitty

Evil Little Fluffball

PostPosted: April 12th, 2005, 9:33 pm
by rodentgrl
Don't you know... all women are evil, it's in our job description.

Folsom, if you turn into a kitty, I'm not food!

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PostPosted: April 12th, 2005, 9:35 pm
by Folsom_god
i dunno you might be but i think ill be one of those fat cats who just chills and does hell of catnip

PostPosted: April 12th, 2005, 9:39 pm
by rodentgrl
Nope... I'm not for eating...
last feline that tried that just tossed me aside after almost 10 years...


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PostPosted: April 12th, 2005, 10:45 pm
by danmalara
are u talking about a real relationship with another girl?? for 10 years??

PostPosted: April 12th, 2005, 10:51 pm
by rodentgrl
yes... the Evil Little Fluffball had a life partner from HS till last year

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PostPosted: April 13th, 2005, 4:27 pm
by uk_guy4
Hatebreeder wrote:A lot of people report doing things to focus on the words help. Just affirm them in your head, repeat them or mouth them worked for me. If you browse similar threads other people gave a fair bit of decent advice.
Files that suggest regulating breathing helped me too. I had to make a bit of an effort to do it, so it didn't let me wander as much.
Have a nosey, see if anything catches your eye.


Whilst I haven't made it into trance before (although I'm trying hard) I have read some stuff about hypnosis.

The trick seems to be in distracting your conscious mind from paying attention, whilst the unconscious is absorbing all the commands.

It described the brain as a large office block with lots of offices with filing cabinets (sub conscious). It's night time and there is a security guard (conscious) blocking access to the filing cabinets.

From what I've read, the security guard is distracted by things like numbers (counting) and breathing. If it's too simple the security guard can still keep an eye out for intruders. It has to be a little complicated.

So give the security guard the following task. Focusing on breathing - in through nose, out through mouth, at the same time as counting backwards from 300. Doing 2 things at once is more than the security guard can handle and it should distract him enough so 'you, the hypnotist' cam sneak past and gain access to the filing cabinets.

The security guard isn't stupid, and if you make too much noise upstairs in the offices (lose focus), then he'll sound the alarm (you'll snap out of trance) and you'll be back to square 1. It's important to keep the security guard distracted with the breathing and the counting to maintain the trance until the job is done.


That's a lot of metaphors, but hopefully it proves useful for someone. :D

PostPosted: April 13th, 2005, 6:58 pm
by danmalara
lol, wow! That's a really cool way to think of it. It fits perfect. The only problem with it is if you think about the whole "police cop guard guy protecting files" too much, you won't be able to get in to a good trance because you mind will wander to that idea. That's not good. The mind will wander to anything that it has to wander about. So filling your brain up with ideas like that isn't a good thing to do (in my opinion), because while EMG is talking in his files, you might start thinking, "is my little police man gone yet," and thinking, isn't good to do, when you are trying to get in a trance. lol, do you get the picture?

PostPosted: April 13th, 2005, 9:04 pm
by makidas
i think that is an awesome way of describing how the mind works, u could also apply that to deep meditation and astral travel!!!

PostPosted: April 13th, 2005, 9:36 pm
by danmalara
Hey makidas, have you done any astral travel? It is a topic I know only a little about.

PostPosted: April 13th, 2005, 9:38 pm
by makidas
yea actually, i could walk u through it if you like

PostPosted: April 13th, 2005, 9:41 pm
by danmalara
That is so awsome, you have to help me! Do i need to be asleep or what? How does it work??

PostPosted: April 14th, 2005, 1:31 am
by uk_guy4
you might start thinking, "is my little police man gone yet," and thinking, isn't good to do, when you are trying to get in a trance. lol, do you get the picture?


That's probably why I haven't made it into trance yet. :D :oops:

PostPosted: April 14th, 2005, 5:35 pm
by danmalara
uk_guy4 wrote:That's probably why I haven't made it into trance yet. :D :oops:


That's exactly what I was thinking when I read your post. Don't give up though, it'll come to you. All you got to do is just belive that it will work.

PostPosted: April 28th, 2005, 1:30 pm
by gregi696
UKguy: if you are still having problems going into trance. Try using the the focus induction files. Or what I do and it really helps is to give yourself a focal point. Something that you can just stare at. Just keep your eyes focused on it and eventually, atleast for me it will go out of focus and then I usually go under fully a minute or so later.

PostPosted: April 28th, 2005, 2:25 pm
by loadedkaos
even if you don't feel like you are going under you should still sit through the whole file and go through the motions, you may not go into somnambulis(not sure about the spelling but that's hypno talk for deep trance)but you may go into a light trance. Just because you can conciously hear whats going on doesn't mean it's not having an effect as long as you dedicate yourself to focusing on the instructions. That and staying with it like I stated will convince your concious mind of your dedication. After all if it didn't work than why would you be doing this?