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If file's audience is marked as "Any" other option
Posted:
January 5th, 2011, 11:32 pm
by Jeshi
I find that the audience search isn't very useful because it's often abused. When a file is for anybody, gay, straight, male, female, TF, ect. People often mark it as "Any, Gay men, straight men, Gay women, Straight women, TF men, TF women." Which makes it so if I search for only files targeted to gay men, I get every single file that doesn't explicitly state not being for gay men.
If I'm using the audience search, I'm searching for file specifically for that audience. I don't want to see "This is just a basic gender neutral file." in my results.
So can it be set somehow that if you mark your file's audience as "Any" it doesn't allow you to also mark other audiences as the same time? Because really, if it's marked as "Any" you really don't need to also see every category included in "Any".
Just a suggestion.
Posted:
January 6th, 2011, 12:46 am
by Liann
People search in unpredictable ways. I do files which might appeal to "any", or more narrow searchers.
Usually the only people who wouldn't like my files for certain is "TG men" because they are headed in the opposite direction. That group never goes in my list.
A couple of straight guys objected that I indicated "straight men" for feminization files when they specifically were not interested in this phase of their lives, but their interests may change and they may be looking for exactly what I offer later (whether they know it now or not). Lots of femme men go through a strong denial phase in their lives.
There are straight women who could benefit from more feminization -- you have all seen them and felt sorry for them.
"Gay women" is a category which includes lipstick lesbians, the fluffy kind, "bottoms" or subs, who might be interested in some hypno-bust expansion help, or more girly attitude, or the file might get picked for them by their butch partner.
Really, I don't see your point. "ANY" does not EXCLUDE "TG MEN", and I think that those searching for TG MEN files would like not to be reminded of femme temptations.
Specified searching permits one to sift out files which are possibly directed to your audience, according to the author.
Believe it or not, there is wide diversity inside every audience. Your example of "GAY MEN" includes gym jocks who would beat you to a pulp if you implied they were in some way sissy, but it also includes "twinkies" which are the epitome of sissy. Cross-dressers are more likely straight than gay, but drag queens and female impersonators are more likely than not gay, while transvestites are straight/gay/trans who knows what, but there is no "tranny" catchall audience.
I think the authors are in the best position to decide who they are creating for. I don't think my audiences looks for "ANY", but looks for a more specific audience group. I only include "ANY" to show that I am more inclusive than exclusive who uses my files, ANYbody who reads the description, and wants that, could give it a go.
Posted:
January 12th, 2011, 8:59 pm
by Jeshi
I think I'm even more confused by your response than you were by my original post. I didn't use an example. Saying "gender neutral" is the closest thing to an example.
I think maybe we both have different ideas of what the point of the filter is.
I think if you check "Any" then it's redundant to specify any other group. But if you check "TG Men" then you probably don't care about finding files that aren't specifically for TG men.
The filter isn't "Which one of these are you" it's "What audience is this file directed at." It's not "Can these audiences listen to it" it's "Specifically which ones do you want to listen to it."
So if I filter with "gay men" then that means I only want to find files specifically for gay men. If I wanted to find a generic file or a file which could be listened to by anybody, I wouldn't add the filter. I would just check the rest of the details and not bother with the audience filter(or check Any.) Gay men doesn't mean sissy men or masculine men, it means gay men. So if a file is voiced by a man and is about feeling your dick get hard when you pleasure other men, clearly that is only intended for gay men. While someone might be in denial and say they are straight, that doesn't mean it should be marked as for straight people. If they're in denial they probably don't want that stuff showing up. (In the same way that TG men don't want femme stuff showing up.)
And the reasoning of "They don't know they want it yet" is a horrible reasoning. Imagine if you asked a store clerk for a specific item and they kept offering you generic products that were unrelated "Well madam, I know you're looking for grapes but this dish detergent is really great! You probably just don't know that you want to buy it yet." And using it is not much better than those people who put "COCK BOOBS BREASTS PORN CHARLIE FUNNY HAHA BABIES GIRLS WOMEN OBAMA REPUBLICANS TEA PARTY NUMA" in the descriptions of their youtube videos so it will show up in unrelated search results.
The point of a search algorithm to find what you're looking for. And if it can be abused by tagging it with unrelated information then that needs to be fixed.
If a file is for everybody except TG men, then just don't tag it with TG men and don't use Any! But so many people tag their files with "Any, Straight men, Straight women, gay women, gay men, TG women, TG men." So it will show up in every single filter. And doing "Any, Straight men, Gay men." is pretty bad too since that's like saying "This file is only for men but it's also for everybody!" it's a contradiction.[/i]