Guy looking for advice/help.

[HypnoJ]

I've had an interest in Hypnosis for years, and have been trying various files and methods of hypnosis for pretty much the same time. There have been a number of times I've felt like I may have entered trance, but I am unsure, because, no matter what I've listened to, no matter how often I tried repeating it, I have never been able to achieve even the smallest effect. I have been unable to make even the simplest suggestion work unless it was the kind of thing i could just "play along" with, which I tried to see if it would maybe "trick" my mind into accepting suggestions better.

I have tried both erotic and non-erotic suggestions, text, audio, and video inductions, while sleeping, while tired and while fully awake, laying or sitting, Sometimes for months on end listening to the same file repeatedly without the slightest result.

I'm beyond even hoping for a hands-free orgasm or anything like that anymore but i can't even manage a hands-free erection or creating an urge to do something(even a controllable urge).

I can't really explain why I am so desperate to make this work, but I am. What advice can you give me?

[Nate80]

relax.

seriously, it's called the law of reverse effect. basically you're putting so much effort into it, it's stopping the suggestions from working. And it's right up there with constantly watching for the trance state on the list of things likely to hinder a newbie subject :)

So kick back, relax and stop trying to force it, don't worry about if you're trancing or not. Also, audio files are known to take longer than live work, so don't expect immediate success - especially if you're constant watching each session for the "ah-ha!" moment :)

Give an audio file a month or so of passively listening to it daily, before you decide if it's having any effect

[HypnoJ]

I've given files months before a number of times, and I haven't always been so...desperate about this.

But after years of failure I guess it's hard to be relaxed about something you want so badly.

But I don't think i'm worrying too much about if i'm going into trance. The rest maybe, but not that one, most of the time I don't even think about it.

What kinds of suggestions tend to be easiest to make work? In other words, what kinds of files are most likely to succeed after a month of so(compulsions, feelings, involuntary actions like getting an erection, forgetting things, seeing reality differently than it actually is, etc). I feel like if I could achieve anything, even something small, this would be a lot easier.

[Nate80]

yeah, the need for it to work stymied me a lot at the beginning, and I'm still a difficult subject, so I do appreciate your dilemma.

Maybe take a break for a few weeks to clear your head of all things hypno and come back with a "enjoy the ride" attitude.

In terms of getting *anything* to work, try something like blank, but before you listen to it, take several very slow deep breaths and say to yourself something along the lines "I am going to relax and let this audio take me where it will, enjoying the journey and not worry about when I go into a trance."

That said, it may be worth putting up a request for a tist on the meeting grounds (I've got a full card atm) and getting an initial induction with a trance trigger set up. Live sessions in general are significantly more effective and you'll probably find you go under quite quickly.

[Nate80]

oh, and of you're of the disposition you've tried all that and nothing works no matter how hard you try, congratulations.

You've got at least one hypnotic suggestion to work for you ;)

[HypnoJ]

Alright...I appreciate the advice. I'll try and get a one on one session and in the meantime try using Blank(I think I've tried it, but I don't think I gave it very long compared to some others). I've lost track of what all I've listened to at this point.

I've definitely taken breaks before, sometimes months, but I can't keep away from the idea even if I stay away from actual files...

And I want this for more than just the erotic aspects. I'd also like to try to improve some things about myself that have held me back In the past.

I considered trying to go to a professional hypnotherapist to "break the ice" so to speak, but it was just too much money for something I wasn't sure if it would work.

[Nate80]

no worries - like I said, I know where you're coming from, self taught is one of the harder ways to learn how to trance (let's be fair, getting someone else to put you in state and set up the trigger is pretty easy, at least from your position :p)

If my availability picks up and you're still having trouble, we might be able to try a chat session some time.

And good for you for using it for more than just porn ;) It's a very powerful tool when you get the hang of it.