becoming a Master

[shinyboi]

subbish/versatile gay guy interested in exploring relationship with hypnotically proficient guy, with the aim of over time heavy hypno being used to change me into a Master, specifically for him. it needs conversation about mutual interests, such as leather / rubber fetishes etc. A vague concept at the moment, but something i would like to explore with the right guy. not much experience with face to face hypno, but like files, especially binaurals, subliminals and distracting, covert files. Based in Ireland, which is unlikely to change, so practicalities such as time zones , age compatibility etc need to be considered. Willing t o commit for the long haul, would like to be transformed into somebody's ideal Master, a double bind of getting off on the control needed to actualise this.

[xdude]

in my experience a sub is always a sub and a true master is always a master...
know your role and accept that you are a sub...
you don't learn that... you just are ..

unless you know you current role of sub is wrong.... then you are a sub..


my 2 cents

[shinyboi]

Well, I guess that's sorted then! Except, it ain't, fortunately, things aren't as absolute or as fixed and determined as that.

[ProfessorPig]

i am going to disagree with xdude. most of the doms i have met have started out as subs. many of them seem to have a similar story of being unable to find a sane dom with the same interests so they switch roles and become the dom they would like to serve.

[Calimore]

When I began in the fetish, I was totally Dom and had no question of that fact. As I began to work with lots of subs though, it became clear to me that I had a submissive side which needed to be explored.

In the time since, it's become clear to me that everyone is Dom/sub in differing degrees, from 100%/0% to 0%/100%. It is very rare that one meets someone 100% Dominant or submissive. Most people, in fact, tend to be more sub than Dom, but mileage WILL vary depending on the circumstances.

I've found that I am 65% Dom/35% sub and prefer to be a Dominant's second-in-command. But it's also become evident that I need to be fluid if I wish to take advantage of all of the opportunities afforded me by the hypnofetish.

So for some, I'm 100% Dominant and for others I'm completely submissive. But again, the ratios do play heavily into that equation. For I am Dominant much more of the time and only submit on occasion to the most capable Dom/mes in the business. Rapport is always key and I only work with people with whom I can establish a trust relationship. Which means that I tend to spend much more time as a Dom than I get to experience as a submissive.

[xdude]

I still say you are what you are ... and pretending to be something else is just not productive...and eventually is a waste of time


as the Rock said "know your role"

[shinyboi]

Thanks for the contributions. sorry xdude, I have to disagree, like the others I believe in a spectrum, I think absolutes are few and far between , and I'm thinking the possibility of switch and change from what we thought immutable is nothing to be afraid of, I've never subscribed to determinism, I guess that's what quite a few of us are on this site for anyhows

[xdude]

alright ... give it a try....but all I ask is that you don't do it half assed .. put full effort in to dominating that boy..
it is what he is expecting....and what he wants

[ProfessorPig]

I still say you are what you are

while it may be true that you are what you are, what you are can and should change regularly as a natural part of growing as a person. i think its perfectly reasonable to assume that it is possible to switch into more of a dom as you grow. even if shinyboi finds that being a dom is not for him, that time is not wasted because the experience will reaffirm his submissive nature is where he belongs.

[xdude]

Well apparently people run the gambit... ( as the expression goes) ..