hey guys!

[hypnotism_sucks]

Changing the original post is pretty bad, but I don't care.

[Lord_Mizaru]

This probably would have been better posted in Meeting Grounds, since I'm sure you'll meet lots of happy people ^_^

[Phoenix-D]

Eh, not too bad but you gave things away too early with your name.

I give this a 3 out of 10 on the Troll O Meter.

[n00b]

Judging by the vote page. WE'RE the weird people that come up with the ideas. EMG just makes the files :)

[lostrose]

Hmmm, let's see...A bunch of people who have an unusual, even "weird" and yet mostly harmless pastime vs someone who wastes his/her time browsing over a website devoted to a topic he/she thinks is for "bizarre ass mother fuckers". Which one is more sad?

[loony28]

Hmmm, let's see...A bunch of people who have an unusual, even "weird" and yet mostly harmless pastime vs someone who wastes his/her time browsing over a website devoted to a topic he/she thinks is for "bizarre ass mother fuckers". Which one is more sad?

:twisted: I'd say the sadder of the two would be the second one. hypnotism_sucks, I've been to hell and it's not as bad as you would think unless you're a real monster. I'll end it here as I don't want to feed the trolls any more than I have. :twisted:

[makidas]

I was going to delete this thread, but it seems everyone is having fun with it, soooooo.. :)

On second thought.... I fixed it, I think thats what he/she meant to say, lol!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[danmalara]

Mak, you're such a character! And I was just wondering...wht did the original post say?

[johnbohnrevenge]

Hey, hypnotism_sucks? I completely agree with you! Especially when you said, "EMG, you are good"! EMG really is good! And when you said, "I'm just a weird ass bastard who sits around thinking of weirdass ways to be a dickless cockbag... officialy a shithead!", well, I couldn't agree more. You immediately strike me as that sort of person.

Nice to see someone with unorthodox opinions on the forum. Are you banned yet?

[joe]

i'm just waiting for sandy82's usual yet acerbic reply to THIS one. :wink:

[sandy82]

Joe, thanks for the thought.

This time, I have to let you down. The first post in this thread is so subtle and nuanced that I have no idea what the SheHeIt (pronounce rapidly) had in mind. :wink:

I will say that if you're in politics, you pray that someone like this will loudly support your opponent.

Something about the author strikes me as unusual. He allegedly joined for the first time on May 19. On May 24 he supposedly made his first post and, at the same time, opened a new thread. How many first-timers know how to do that?

The author reminds me of a former user whose opposition to hypnosis seemed nearly psychotic. The former user made two or three posts on the site in late April. The most egregious one went up on Wednesday, April 27, at about 1830 GMT. It came down rather quickly, and there were no further posts from that particular username.

The two of them seem to have a great deal in common.

Note to johnbohnrevenge: I agree with the tone and substance of your post. I hope you were paying close attention to the details when you wrote it. Here they are:

1. hypnotism_sucks posts his message on Monday, May 23 at 1925 GMT/3:25 pm US EDT.

2. n00b and lostrose give a pretty good idea of the tone and targeting of the actual first post. May 23, 2153 GMT; May 24, 0123 GMT.

3. Makidas heavily edited the original post on May 24, 0503 GMT. He reversed much of the meaning...which is no problem. Makidas undoubtedly toned down the original considerably. We can thank Makidas for that; he also apparently left n00b's and lostrose's posts alone.

4. jbr, you posted in response to makidas' revisions on May 24 at 0848 GMT. As I write, what appears as hypnotism_sucks' post is about the opposite of what he actually said. Lots of the same words, but redirected at hypnotism_sucks by Makidas. I'd also bet that the last two sentences were composed entirely by Makidas.

Three quick points here. (1) I'm on Makidas' side, for having removed much of the sting from the original. (2) If you didn't like the version you commented on, jbr, you would have hated the original. (3) I have used GMT because we have users and readers from all over the world.

I didn't see any of this until about an hour ago. How am I doing, Joe?

Not too acerbic, I hope. :)

i'm just waiting for sandy82's usual yet acerbic reply to THIS one. :wink:

[donna2001]

Obvious to me heshe is someone who has had a bad experience or who has a fear of hypnosis.

[danmalara]

Sandy, you are insane!!!!!! I'm gonna play doctor for sec and tell u that you spend TOO much time on this site: "you spend TOO much time on this site." << There now that the doctor has said it, it is official. (Sandy, this post is only here to protect you from the harmful health risks of spending too much time and doing too much research for a single post.)

:D Have a nice day! :D

[Agriff]

I would have to agree with Dan, that was like..detective work, figuring out that he was a former member. Pretty smart of you though :)

[joe]

nice job, sandy. as expected. ;)

[sandy82]

LOL, Dan. Thanks for the advice. Sorry to make you feel uncomfortable with the "research." I noticed immediately that the messages didn't track. It took a while to put the sequence into comprehensible prose.

When I get to 247 posts, remind me again that I spend too much time on this site. :)

Sandy, you are insane!!!!!! I'm gonna play doctor for sec and tell u that you spend TOO much time on this site: "you spend TOO much time on this site." << There now that the doctor has said it, it is official. (Sandy, this post is only here to protect you from the harmful health risks of spending too much time and doing too much research for a single post.)

:D Have a nice day! :D

[johnbohnrevenge]

If you didn't like the version you commented on, jbr, you would have hated the original.

O-kay, now I'm hooked. Can I see it? Please please please? (does hyperactive dance)

[loony28]

:twisted: Basically what hypnotism_sucks said was that we were all wierd, lame a__, mother f er's who would burn in hell. :twisted:

[sandy82]

I agree with you. I'd like to see the original, too; but it was erased/heavily edited ("redacted" is the current word used by spokesmen in the US) before I saw any of the thread. Makidas may have kept a copy of the original, I don't know.

If you didn't like the version you commented on, jbr, you would have hated the original.

O-kay, now I'm hooked. Can I see it? Please please please? (does hyperactive dance)

[MaStErHyPnOtIs]

Hmmm, let's see...A bunch of people blah blah blah yet mostly harmless pastime vs blah blah blah blah

http://www.warpmymind.com/modules.php?name=Journal&file=display&jid=165

I rest my case

[MaStErHyPnOtIs]

Eh, not too bad but you gave things away too early with your name.

I give this a 3 out of 10 on the Troll O Meter.

He should use a much less assuming name shouldnt he, such as master hypnotis. :roll:

[MaStErHyPnOtIs]

Something about the author strikes me as unusual. He allegedly joined for the first time on May 19. On May 24 he supposedly made his first post and, at the same time, opened a new thread. How many first-timers know how to do that?

I really can't say it's that hard to figure out, Id say close to 89/100 first- timers could figure out how to do it. This is only my 3rd post and I easily figured out how to double quote.

The author reminds me of a former user whose opposition to hypnosis seemed nearly psychotic. The former user made two or three posts on the site in late April. The most egregious one went up on Wednesday, April 27, at about 1830 GMT. It came down rather quickly, and there were no further posts from that particular username.

The two of them seem to have a great deal in common.

You apparently did your research, put two and two together, and if your thinking of who I'm thinking of, your correct. SK_5555 (I think that's it) is indeed the same person as hypnotism_sucks. SK_5555 became inactive in the forum's after a forum ban, but still harasses those in chat periodicaly.

And no, I am not SK_5555 or hypnotism_sucks.

[MaStErHyPnOtIs]

Hmm, still no replies? But I thought everyone was having so much

fun with it

I guess not :(

[sandy82]

Hmm, still no replies? But I thought everyone was having so much

fun with it

I guess not :(

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm having a great time. :)

You obviously are bright, but you have a very large axe to grind with the world.

Why 89/100 of first-time users? It could easily be 91/100...or 28/100. Who knows. As H.L. Mencken once said, "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste [or the talent] of the American public." I'm sure you can identify with Mencken. You cultivate an attitude of superiority to those around you. Make sure to nurture it. I'm not sure how hearty it is.

You also have a good sense of humor, even though you may not realize it.

Here's a great one-liner.

And no, I am not SK_5555 or hypnotism_sucks.

Your assurance reminds me of the story about the notorious perjuror. He was brought into court from the penitentiary to testify in another matter. The clerk asked him if he swore to tell the truth, the whole truth.... The whole courtroom burst into laughter.

You can see the unfortunate, albeit imperfect, applicability to your situation. Your track record at this site is short and undistinguished. We have no basis on which to have established a groundwork of trust.

Incidentally, your full username causes some delay in typing. I hope you don't mind my calling you "No-T." That's from the missing "T" on the end of HyPnOtIsT. I can assure that there's nothing subliminal hidden there. No Freudian associations are intended either, although the letter "T" is an interesting shape.

I have a question for you, No-T. If you know that "SK.. 5555" and "hypnotism_sucks" are the same person, you must be familiar with him/her. How is it then that you know part but not all of the former username?

Second part of the same question. You claim to be adept at the workings of this site. How is it that in the course of over fours on May 25 (3:18 pm EDT to 7:30 pm EDT), you didn't use the index to the Members List to get the exact, full sequence of the "555" username.

No-T, is it that you're not so skilled with computers as you think you are?

Is your heart rent for the young oral sex queen? Maybe you feel that she has been victimized by hypnotism. Along with her supposed mother, who probably hadn't seen such excitement since they started putting malt liquor in cans. The whole episode reads like pulp porn--and about equally convincing. I was left wondering two things.

--how did they all have room to maneuver in the living room of the trailer.
--where was the refuse that one always hears about.

Your story has some rather gaping holes in it. Frankly, I'm disappointed in you.

From the author's standpoint, a credible whodunit is the only kind worth spending time on.

You may wonder what my excuse is. I'm a member of the American public, and it's very hard to underestimate my taste. I'll read anything, No-T.

Including your posts.

By the way, seen any Martians lately? :wink:

[makidas]

Bravo sandy!! **claps** :lol: :lol:

[danmalara]

When I get to 247 posts, remind me again that I spend too much time on this site. :)

Touche!

[johnbohnrevenge]

Hmm, still no replies? But I thought everyone was having so much

fun with it

I guess not :(

Aw... sounds almost as if this forum is the only form of enjoyment you have left to you. Glad to see you enjoy this stuff.

[johnbohnrevenge]

I'm not edging away because of what that_guy_812 said. On the contrary, I trust that guy. I really do. (Someone - help!)

[sandy82]

Relax, jbr. You didn't let tg812 finish. He meant "kiley."

I'm not sure what a serial kiley is. A sequential Ozzy?

In any event, jbr, he lives far away from you in Kiley-land....er..... Australia.

Oops. :wink:

I'm not edging away because of what that_guy_812 said. On the contrary, I trust that guy. I really do. (Someone - help!)

I'd be a sad person without this warpmymind forum....no wait, I mean I'd b an INSANE per... no, thats not right either........ ummm, I wouldn't be a serial kil......

[Agriff]

Did anyone else realize that he edited his post? Or have you all just been using the "2" link below the topic title?

[MaStErHyPnOtIs]

I hate long posts, and why does everyone respond when I'm away?

You obviously are bright

And you would be correct

Why 89/100 of first-time users? It could easily be 91/100...or 28/100. Who knows. As H.L. Mencken once said, "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste [or the talent] of the American public." I'm sure you can identify with Mencken. You cultivate an attitude of superiority to those around you. Make sure to nurture it. I'm not sure how hearty it is.

I dont know where 89 came from, 90 seemed too large and 88 too small. I do come off with a sense of superiority, in this case on purpose, but I'm generaly not very arrogant.

You also have a good sense of humor, even though you may not realize it.

No, I realize it

Here's a great one-liner.

And no, I am not SK_5555 or hypnotism_sucks.

Your assurance reminds me of the story about the notorious perjuror. He was brought into court from the penitentiary to testify in another matter. The clerk asked him if he swore to tell the truth, the whole truth.... The whole courtroom burst into laughter.

You can see the unfortunate, albeit imperfect, applicability to your situation. Your track record at this site is short and undistinguished. We have no basis on which to have established a groundwork of trust.

I'm sorry if I haven't earned your trust, but I suppose I can understand why. But if I was infact on a mission to bash hypnotism I assure you I'd use much more diligent and thought out posts.

Incidentally, your full username causes some delay in typing. I hope you don't mind my calling you "No-T." That's from the missing "T" on the end of HyPnOtIsT. I can assure that there's nothing subliminal hidden there. No Freudian associations are intended either, although the letter "T" is an interesting shape.

I'm sorry if my atrocious spelling and frequent typos bother you. I really don't mind "No-T", though I doubt you care what I think.

I have a question for you, No-T. If you know that "SK.. 5555" and "hypnotism_sucks" are the same person, you must be familiar with him/her. How is it then that you know part but not all of the former username?

He is a friend of mine (yes, it is a he). He told me he was making fun of people on a hypnotism site and urged me to check it out. I did and I knew he wouldnt be able to handle the more diligent people on this site in a verbal arguement. I didn't have much to do, so I posted. My first post was actualy in thread by SK_5555, but it got deleted and SK was banned from the forums. He rejoined and you can obviously see he has returned. he has yet again been banned, but there's a 50-50 chance he'll return with a third screen name.

Second part of the same question. You claim to be adept at the workings of this site. How is it that in the course of over fours on May 25 (3:18 pm EDT to 7:30 pm EDT), you didn't use the index to the Members List to get the exact, full sequence of the "555" username.

I'll assume you meant to say four hours.

1. I never claimed to be an adept at the workings of this site, I just said I knew how to double quote.

2. Simple, I have a life. I have things to do. Do you honestly think this is what I do all day? I wasn't on this site for four hours, I posted, left, revisited several extremely brief times to see if I had any diligent replies, posted again, and got back to my life.

No-T, is it that you're not so skilled with computers as you think you are?

No.

Is your heart rent for the young oral sex queen? Maybe you feel that she has been victimized by hypnotism. Along with her supposed mother, who probably hadn't seen such excitement since they started putting malt liquor in cans. The whole episode reads like pulp porn--and about equally convincing.

No, I honestly don't care, I was just proving a point.

I was left wondering two things.

Again, I honestly don't care.

Your story has some rather gaping holes in it.

Maybe, I'm stupid, but I don't even know what story you're talking about.

Frankely, I'm disappointed in you

And for a third time, I honestly don't care.

You may wonder what my excuse is. I'm a member of the American public, and it's very hard to underestimate my taste. I'll read anything, No-T.

Including your posts.

Don't make me say it again.

By the way, seen any Martians lately? :wink:

No. And you don't have to try and impress me with your intellegence, and don't even try to make me look stupid.

Aw... sounds almost as if this forum is the only form of enjoyment you have left to you. Glad to see you enjoy this stuff.

No, as I stated before, I have a life, I don't live on the internet. I'm not really even enjoying this. What I said was merely a sarsactic form of sympathy for those not enjoying my posts.

Oh, and hypnotism_sucks really isn't as stupid and arrogant as he lets off, he's actualy decently intellegent. He just lacks a life :(.

[Agriff]

You get the award for longest post, most def. You did a good job defending yourself.

[MaStErHyPnOtIs]

You get the award for longest post, most def. You did a good job defending yourself.

I know it was long, but not intentionaly, I just had something to say.And thank you.

[MaStErHyPnOtIs]

oops, double post.

[missypuss]

Fascinating!! Incredibly Sad ....Yet Strangely Fascinating. Perhaps a :twisted: few counselling sessions would help things ??

[MaStErHyPnOtIs]

Fascinating!! Incredibly Sad ....Yet Strangely Fascinating. Perhaps a :twisted: few counselling sessions would help things ??

Are you talking to me? Please specify.

[sk_5555]

yes, i'm back, but i'm going to take the intelligent way, to prove both me and "no-t" (as out good friend sandy puts it) are right about your sick hypnotism garbage.

As H.L. Mencken once said, "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste [or the talent] of the American public." I'm sure you can identify with Mencken.

If Mencken knew you, and realize you go to a site that allows you to transform into a cat, or turn you into the opposite gender, I guarentee he would not side with you. In fact, I don't think anyone with common sense would.

Your assurance reminds me of the story about the notorious perjuror. He was brought into court from the penitentiary to testify in another matter. The clerk asked him if he swore to tell the truth, the whole truth.... The whole courtroom burst into laughter.

This proves hypnotism is weird how??? All I see is a petty attempt to make fun of a quote, that really had nothing to do with the post itself. You really just blew off smoke, and tried to get a few of the hypnotism cronies to laugh. Gee, way to prove a point.

You can see the unfortunate, albeit imperfect, applicability to your situation. Your track record at this site is short and undistinguished. We have no basis on which to have established a groundwork of trust.

OK... I don't think he was asking for trust, he was proving a point. This, again, is completely irrelevant to anything we are trying to prove. Remember? Hypnotism sucks? Its weird? You're weird for using it? Yeah, this is the topic, so stay on it. Don't try to string big words together, just because they sound cool.

Incidentally, your full username causes some delay in typing. I hope you don't mind my calling you "No-T." That's from the missing "T" on the end of HyPnOtIsT. I can assure that there's nothing subliminal hidden there. No Freudian associations are intended either, although the letter "T" is an interesting shape.

Again, you are taking a shot at him, not at our point. Therefore, you have proved nothing.

Is your heart rent for the young oral sex queen? Maybe you feel that she has been victimized by hypnotism. Along with her supposed mother, who probably hadn't seen such excitement since they started putting malt liquor in cans. The whole episode reads like pulp porn--and about equally convincing.

No, he never said that. He never came close to saying that. You know how she became the oral sex queen? Thats right. Listening to one of the bizarro files here. She probably wasn't even a girl to start out with. Read some of the journals, Bonnie's specificly. The whole thing is sick. You effictively broke up a marriage, with hypnotism. The dad has to be in an asylum. Way to go!

Second part of the same question. You claim to be adept at the workings of this site. How is it that in the course of over fours on May 25 (3:18 pm EDT to 7:30 pm EDT), you didn't use the index to the Members List to get the exact, full sequence of the "555" username.

Again, you are insulting him, not the topic. I guess you think you're a politician/lawyer type of person, defending everyone here, but, you don't do this kind of thing in a debate or trial. All it is showing, is you are good at attacking the person presenting the argument, not the arguement.

You may wonder what my excuse is. I'm a member of the American public, and it's very hard to underestimate my taste. I'll read anything, No-T.

Most of the American public, would probably call you an idiot, for partaking in thie trash. How many people have you told about your adventures with hypnosis? How many people have you told about your adventure as a woman, or a cat? If anyone excepts you, or doesn't talk behind your back for that matter, you are very lucky.

By the way, seen any Martians lately?

What is the point of this? Not insulting, nothing to do with the topic. I guess you just thought it was funny.


This post made no sense. It had nothing to do with the point. All it did was insult "no-t". All we are saying is this kind of hypnotism is bizarre, and the people who use it are very strange too.

[missypuss]

Guys Guys Chill Out...... I was not talking to u specifically, & I have no idea about broken marraiges or any thing else. But speaking from personal (and truly English) not American experience: the people who use this site are into what they are into , same as perhaps when u have sex with a woman or whatever u may imagine u r sleeping with a super model cos your sex lifes got a bit routine..... :? so the people who are into this kinda hypnosis use it as a tool to go wherever they might feel they want their minds to take them at that particular moment.!! Dont u fantasise .....ever ???

[MaStErHyPnOtIs]

The marriage thing concerned the link to the journal I posted. And about fantasies, whether I fantasise or not is really none of your business, but if you read in between the lines you'd realize why it's called a fantasy, BECAUSE IT'S NOT REAL. I sense that you are not a religious person at all, but even if you're not, I can garuntee most people would agree that many of the things on this site are wrong, immoral, and in many cases disgusting. *snickers*. You said I need counselling. I don't even have to say anything.

[xanthk]

but even if you're not, I can garuntee most people would agree that many of the things on this site are wrong, immoral, and in many cases disgusting. *snickers*.

How do you define most people? Do you know most people? Can you think of any person anywhere who doesn't in some way deviate from what society at large considers normal? If so, this is a person I 'd like to meet.

Desiring to change oneself to gain happiness is not immoral. Listening to these files is wrong, only in that it foes against the common thought. And throughout history it has been estabished that the majority is always right. Right?

Disgusting? Possibly, but all those of us who are here, are here of our own volition, yourself included. Nobody here is forcing any specific files on us, we listen to what interests us, the rest we are free to ignore.

I am a perfectly normal person, but I have fantasies that at least to some extent I can use these files to, for a time, fulfill.

By the way, I am to some extent a religious person, although I'm sure my religion differs from that which you seem to assume should belong to us all. Oddly enough my religion has no problems with what I've seen here.

Note: edited by the author for typos

[MaStErHyPnOtIs]

How do you define most people? Do you know most people? Can you think of any person anywhere who doesn't in some way deviate from what society at large considers normal? If so, this is a person I 'd like to meet.

By most people I mean the general public. Though everyone sins that still doesn't make it right.

Desiring to change oneself to gain happiness is not immoral. Listening to these files is wrong, only in that it foes against the common thought. And throughout history it has been estabished that the majority is always right. Right?

The fact that you enjoy something in no way justifies your actions. Let's say i want to kill someone, to gain happiness of course, does that make it moral? Not all cases of persueing happiness are immoral, but many on this site are.

Disgusting? Possibly, but all those of us who are here, are here of our own volition, yourself included. Nobody here is forcing any specific files on us, we listen to what interests us, the rest we are free to ignore.

And that justifies your point how? It's basicaly saying the files on this site aren't immoral, just the people.

I am a perfectly normal person, but I have fantasies that at least to some extent I can use these files to, for a time, fulfill.

Good for you, but if you do this in an inappropriate way I must disagree with it.

By the way, I am to some extent a religious person, although I'm sure my religion differs from that which you seem to assume should belong to us all. Oddly enough my religion has no problems with what I've seen here.

I in no way pushed my religion on you, I'm not a missionary. And some of what I've seen here not only goes against my religion, but the commom opinion of what is right and wrong.

[sandy82]

Yes, Agriff, we noticed it. He has edited the initial post (Page I-No.1) one time so far. A few minutes later he edited a post (II-6) farther down the thread.

My thanks to SK_5555 (formerly sk05555 and later hypnosis_sucks) and No-T. I wrote those posts with an objective in mind. I hoped the two of the one of you would miss it.

Did anyone else realize that he edited his post? Or have you all just been using the "2" link below the topic title?

[Jack]

By most people I mean the general public. Though everyone sins that still doesn't make it right.

What gives you the right, not to mention the "general public", to judge what is right for any other individual?

The fact that you enjoy something in no way justifies your actions. Let's say i want to kill someone, to gain happiness of course, does that make it moral? Not all cases of persueing happiness are immoral, but many on this site are.

No tool is moral or immoral. Morality is based upon the specific application of a specific tool at a specific time. I suggest that if you want to kill someone, to gain happiness, that you find someone who wants to be killed, to gain happiness.

And that justifies your point how? It's basicaly saying the files on this site aren't immoral, just the people.

Refer to previous section.

Good for you, but if you do this in an inappropriate way I must disagree with it.

I must say that I agree with you on that point. However, again, we come to the point of: who are you to judge for other people?

I in no way pushed my religion on you, I'm not a missionary. And some of what I've seen here not only goes against my religion, but the commom opinion of what is right and wrong.

Then I suggest you do one of two things:
1. Go elsewhere.
2. Change your mind.

Beyond that, I believe it was Aleister Crowley who said "Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law."

[MaStErHyPnOtIs]

What gives you the right, not to mention the "general public", to judge what is right for any other individual?

I am your peer, along with the rest of the "general public". We are functioning in a society. Someone has to decide what is right and wrong or else we'd be living in anarchy. When you are convicted of a felony, who decides whether or not you are guilty? Your peers. Ok Jack, let's say a loved one of yours is killed. You want the killer prosecuted, but then again, who are you to judge the killers actions.

No tool is moral or immoral. Morality is based upon the specific application of a specific tool at a specific time. I suggest that if you want to kill someone, to gain happiness, that you find someone who wants to be killed, to gain happiness.

I would have to disagree with you here. In my opinion, there is no justifiable murder, but that's just my opinion.

Good for you, but if you do this in an inappropriate way I must disagree with it.

I must say that I agree with you on that point. However, again, we come to the point of: who are you to judge for other people?

Refer to previous section

I suggest you do one of two things:
1. Go elsewhere.
2. Change your mind.

Beyond that, I believe it was Aleister Crowley who said "Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law."

I have a tendency to stand by my opinions, so I think #2 is out of the question, and I actualy do enjoy arguing, its almost a

unusual, even "weird" and yet mostly harmless pastime

of mine.
So you can either

1. Go elsewhere.
2. Change your mind.

And I bid you good day.

[Jack]

I am your peer, along with the rest of the "general public". We are functioning in a society. Someone has to decide what is right and wrong or else we'd be living in anarchy. When you are convicted of a felony, who decides whether or not you are guilty? Your peers. Ok Jack, let's say a loved one of yours is killed. You want the killer prosecuted, but then again, who are you to judge the killers actions.

Moderately true. What I think you meant to say was: When an entity is charged with having broken a law, that entity is judged by a jury of their peers to be either guilty or not. In cases where the charges are such that one entity interferes with another entities' right to live or be free, the jury system is a fairly decent choice. However, in other circumstances(for example: drug use, sexual preference), I don't believe any entity has the right to judge any other entity.

I would have to disagree with you here. In my opinion, there is no justifiable murder, but that's just my opinion.

I mostly agree with this opinion. Before I would let anyone be killed that wants to be killed, I'd want to make sure that it would really benefit that individual and those around them.

I have a tendency to stand by my opinions, so I think #2 is out of the question, and I actualy do enjoy arguing, its almost a

unusual, even "weird" and yet mostly harmless pastime

of mine.

Good for you, I'm glad you're not a push-over. Too many people in this world give up way too easily. I also have an unusual, even "weird" and yet mostly harmless pastime, it's called thinking.

And I bid you good day.

[makidas]

This is your brain.....


This is your brain on drugs.....

[loony28]

The fact that you enjoy something in no way justifies your actions.

:twisted: Ok I'm interested in why you think that enjoyment of something in no way justifies your actions. Do you enjoy eating? Do you eat meat? You know many animals die to provide us with food. And I do enjoy eating meat like bacon and hamburger. :twisted:

Let's say i want to kill someone, to gain happiness of course, does that make it moral?

:twisted: If there's someone one this sight that really thinks that it's moral to kill someone just to gain happiness then they are truely sick individuals. Let me ask you something. Is it moral to kill someone to defend yourself or your family? I'm talking about self defense in case any one is thinking differently. :twisted:

Not all cases of persueing happiness are immoral, but many on this site are.

:twisted: What files do you consider immoral or better yet since you think that many of the files are immoral which ones are moral? :twisted:

:twisted: Like it's been said before, people are here willingly and listen to the files willingly. This site has fettish hypnotism files on it and there are many people with different fettishes. If you don't like it, tough. you may not understand it but it's there. People here do not like being told they are going to burn in Hell by visiting this site or listening to the files because the simple fact of the matter is that they won't. Like I've said before I've already been to Hell once before. And now I have this to say if you don't like this site. You came to this site willingly and no one is forcing you to stay. If you don't like this site you can get the hell out of here any time you want. Just don't let the door hit you on the way out. :twisted:

[sk_5555]

Good for you, I'm glad you're not a push-over. Too many people in this world give up way too easily. I also have an unusual, even "weird" and yet mostly harmless pastime, it's called thinking.

hmm, thats very ironic, considering your mind is clouded when in hypnosis, you're "past time" can never be fully done, when you are listening to hypnotism. Obviusly, you don't think hard enough. I mean, lets face it, you are seriously on a hypnotism site, that allows you to transform into different bizarre things.

I mostly agree with this opinion. Before I would let anyone be killed that wants to be killed, I'd want to make sure that it would really benefit that individual and those around them.

It doesn't matter. Killing someone because they want to, does not justify your actions. The quote "others benifiting" that is also called a motive for murder. You can kill someone if they want to be killed, but you will STILL be prosecuted. So, therefore, it is not justified, and neither is listening to files, that pollute and cloud your mind. You are essentially killing off yourself, by changing your attitude, seeing dillusions as reality, you are doing something, that you find right, and moral, but in truth, it is not at all.

Therefore, you basicly gave a murderers excuse. Oh, he wanted to be killed, others benifited. WRONG. Because other people want it doesn't make it moral, same here, because people want to be weird, doesn't make it moral.

I sure as hell hope no one around you says they want to die, you might take it literally, and do it. Your attempt at a comeback made you say stupid stuff, you "thought" to hard.

[Agriff]

In my opinion: Fetish- a sexual desire of an individual, filed down to a certain action, state of mind, or body part. Usually this desire is a minority. If you have not heard of what I have just mentioned then you are living under a rock. Most men in America have a desire for the boobs and ass of a woman. If 5% of America shared this desire, however, it would be a fetish. People are born with them and it is something they cannot change.

There are 4 main fetishes on this webite- BDSM (slavery), feminization, diaper/ incontinence, and animal related (thinking of yourself as an animal).

Crossdressing/feminization is a largly known fetish. You see it in movies, news, books, even music. Some men are born feeling like they are trapped in a womans body. They cannot help this, its a part of them

BDSM is even more widley known than feminization. It's a source of pleasure for them to feel pain or to inflict pain. Or the same with control. If you have not heard of this, im sure that you have been cradled in mommys arms for the majority of your life.

The same thing goes with infantalism. It is a fetish that, while not as widely known about as feminization or BDSM, still exists. It was featured on CSI about a month ago, too. They cannot help it if they like feeling cradled in somebody's arms or find it sexually stimulating to be in a diaper. Its a part of them.

The animal fetish is one that I had not heard of untill seeing this webite. It's something that can actually be fun for people who don't share the fetish though, and it actually is what hypnotism is seen as if you have never seen hypnotism in real life (A man wearing a tophat with a gold watch hypnotising somebody to bark like a dog or gobble like a chicken).

Fetishes are a part of like, and they are normal. Everybody has sexual desires, it's just that the majority of people do not share the same desires as those with fetishes, its what makes them fetishes.

Hypnotism is something people use to fufill their fetishes. It can make people with a diaper fetish incontinent, a person with a feminization fetish transform into a woman, it can make a person with BDSM become a slave, or give a person with BDSM a slave to play with that enjoys pain. It can also make you believe you are an animal.

I have heard both of you talk about Christianity, and morality. While the Christian religion does not allow such behavior, that fact that it does not is one of it's major flaws, and can be seen in the news with gay marriage.

What disturbs me is not all of the people who have joined this website and enjoy hypnotism, it is the fact that you have deliberatley gone onto this website and thrown dirt in their faces for something that they cannot help, and ontop of this you call yourself a Christian. You may justify your actions by the fact that it is against Christianity to satisfy these fetishes, but you are also disobeyiing a larger part of the bible that mainly says "do onto others as you would like done onto you".

[tirips]

Well said Agriff. Those who are here came here to be with like minded individuals, not to push their beliefs off onto others, and are not hurting anyone.