Curse female takeover for good

by **moo4** » January 2nd, 2018, 11:57 am

I feel I am transgender but I don't think I have the strength to go through with it. I've been scared of this file in the past but now it seems like exactly what I want, it can let me let go and let someone stronger than me take control of my body and mold it into how it should be. I want to leave this up as a running log of my experience, but I also want to know what others think about this, and how working together with my feminine self may go.

Also open to any suggestions on how often I should be listening, I'm planning on once or twice daily

by **moo4** » January 2nd, 2018, 2:38 pm

Did my first listen just now so I'm just working for posterity. Obviously no changes yet but I actually feel a little calmer about my feelings and desires about being a woman, so that's a little relieving

by **OxyFemboi** » January 3rd, 2018, 8:57 am

moo4 wrote
I feel I am transgender but I don't think I have the strength to go through with it. I've been scared of this file in the past but now it seems like exactly what I want, it can let me let go and let someone stronger than me take control of my body and mold it into how it should be. I want to leave this up as a running log of my experience, but I also want to know what others think about this, and how working together with my feminine self may go.

Also open to any suggestions on how often I should be listening, I'm planning on once or twice daily.

Becoming female is a slow process. It is set up that way on purpose. Those who are not absolutely certain can back out easily. Those who are certain chaff at the built-in delays. The steps are:
1. Therapy. YOu need to convince your therapist that you are truly in a body of the wrong sex.
2. Hormone Replacement Therapy. The hard part here is finding an endocrinologist who does this.
3. You need to be on HRT for at least one year before surgery can be scheduled.
4. Live as a member of the sex you want to be for at least one year.
5. You need to be living as a member of the sex you want to be for one year before surgery will be scheduled.
6. Surgery.
7. Legal change of name/change of sex. This can be done any time. People usually wait till they have been on HRT for at least a year. That shows commitment.
8. Coming out to friends and family. This can be done any time and is usually an ongoing process.

Some steps can be done simultaneously. Steps two and four, for example.

It's a multi-year process, made to eliminate those who have doubts. Nobody wants to have someone wake up one morning and say, "Whoops! I made a mistake. I want my old body back."

It's a gradual process. You can ease into it at your own pace.

Listening once or twice daily is a good schedule.

by **moo4** » January 3rd, 2018, 3:14 pm

Thanks for highlighting the steps, I've just been looking into hrt for now but it's nice to see what must be done beyond that. It seems like a long journey and I'm eager to get started.

I just listened again and had probably the best trance of my life. I barely remember anything past the induction aside from counting to 5 to take me out of trance, but I feel so refreshed now. Still not really noticing any changes but I don't expect to yet

by **moo4** » January 4th, 2018, 11:27 am

Small update, I had a two part dream last night. First I was having a conversation with a friend and I kept stuttering and mumbling and just having a hard time communicating regularly. Then it kind of restarted but I was a woman this time. I was talking very easily and words just naturally and smoothly came out, I wasn't fighting like I was before. I was speaking more confidently and charismatically

Maybe it's just a dream but maybe it's my mind telling me that I am more comfortable and confident as a woman? Anybody else have any takes on what it could mean

by **OxyFemboi** » January 4th, 2018, 12:55 pm

moo4 wrote
Small update, I had a two-part dream last night. First I was having a conversation with a friend and I kept stuttering and mumbling and just having a hard time communicating regularly. Then it kind of restarted but I was a woman this time. I was talking very easily and words just naturally and smoothly came out, I wasn't fighting like I was before. I was speaking more confidently and charismatically

Maybe it's just a dream but maybe it's my mind telling me that I am more comfortable and confident as a woman? Anybody else have any takes on what it could mean?

I think your mind is telling you that you are a trans woman. You need to start your transformation right away. Forget about waiting till she takes control. Do it now.

The first step, seeing a therapist, does not commit you to anything. It allows you to talk to a sympathetic person about this desire you have. Who knows, you may find being a woman is a fantasy best left as a fantasy ... or you could find being female is a burning desire you need to do to be happy.

After a few weeks or months of talking about it, find an endocrinologist. The endocrinologist needs a letter from your therapist stating that you are a suitable candidate for HRT.

But you need to get started.

There is the COGIATI, a test for a possible male-to-female transgender to take. It was not developed by the psychiatric community, so there's a not-invented-here bias against it. Read the entire website, either before or after taking the test. There are explanations and qualifications on the use of the test. For example, it only works for male-to-female transgenders; there is not similar female-to-male test. https://transsexual.org/cogiati_english.html

by **moo4** » January 4th, 2018, 2:34 pm

Yeah it feels like it's a message of how I feel more comfortable and confident as a woman. I've talked to a therapist and she wasn't convinced I was trans, and she recommended spending some time playing with gender roles and women's clothing and seeing how I feel. I've tried and have some mixed feelings, but I get so jealous when I see transwomens bodies online and talk to them. I want to move forward with a gender therapist but I am still too scared to take that next step.

I've taken the COGIATI and came back with the "feminine male" result and that was both a relief and a disappointment to me. I do agree with a lot of the criticisms of it though, so I don't know if I believe it's accuracy.

I listened again and don't feel much different. Didn't trance as deep though. I'm going to walk through some feminine aisles of a department store now and see if it Sparks anything, even if it's subtle

by **OxyFemboi** » January 4th, 2018, 4:42 pm

moo4 wrote

Yeah, it feels like it's a message of how I feel more comfortable and confident as a woman. I've talked to a therapist and she wasn't convinced I was trans, and she recommended spending some time playing with gender roles and women's clothing and seeing how I feel. I've tried and have some mixed feelings, but I get so jealous when I see transwomen's bodies online and talk to them. I want to move forward with a gender therapist but I am still too scared to take that next step.

I've taken the COGIATI and came back with the "feminine male" result and that was both a relief and a disappointment to me. I do agree with a lot of the criticisms of it though, so I don't know if I believe it's accuracy.

I listened again and don't feel much different. Didn't trance as deep though. I'm going to walk through some feminine aisles of a department store now and see if it Sparks anything, even if it's subtle.

Talk to your current therapist about seeing a gender therapist in addition to or in place of him/her. Ask if she could recommend one. She will probably make the initial appointment for you. She might schedule an appointment with her after the original appointment so you can talk about how you felt: were you comfortable with him or her? Could you trust him? Do you want someone else? (Not all therapists and clients are good matches.)

Is Feminine Male the same as Stage Three? I always tested as Stage Four or Stage Five.

Look at and buy some feminine clothing. [Thrift stores and vintage stores are great for this.] There is a lot of overlap between men's clothing and women's clothing, especially in tees, some blouses, and jeans. You can dress completely in women's clothing and still look male, or at worst/best, androgynous. The only difference between most men's and women's clothes is which way the buttons button or the way you access the jean's zipper (from the right for men, from the left for women). Very few people notice details as picayune as that.

Are you jealous of transwomen's bodies or are you jealous of their confidence? Believe me, we earned that confidence the hard way ... doing what I'm encouraging you to do. Yes, we knew we were supposed to be female, just like you know that. We still had doubts. We had support. Come out to someone you trust who you can talk to about this. It's good to have someone who isn't a therapist to talk stuff over with. A close friend, a confidant, a supporter ... someone who you can talk to who can keep a secret. A BFF, if you want to use that terminology.

You would not believe everything Joe and I have talked about. We both are going in opposite directions but still ... the transition is the same, though the details differ. We know what to tell each other to expect in the new puberty we're going through. Joe always looked masculine (and was often mistaken for a boy) while I always looked femme.

Peace.

by **kslava** » January 15th, 2018, 11:25 am

Just as an additive, I would call Bambi a better version of takeover, because it isn't so forceful of a multiple personality split than female takeover.

You might like: https://bambisleep.blogspot.com/2017/04/

by **kslava** » January 15th, 2018, 11:27 am

Sorry, I meant to add to the conversation, not as an additive to the other file. I would recommend Bambi instead of Female Takeover.

by **moo4** » January 18th, 2018, 3:29 pm

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll check it out. CFT hasn't had much affect anyways on me, even after daily listenings

by **moo4** » June 20th, 2018, 3:52 pm

Sorry I've been gone so long but I feel so much better now. Michael tried to quit this file and leave the site but he came back and I know it's because it's what he truly wants. We haven't really been talking, he tries to ignore I exist, but I think that's better, that way he thinks my thoughts are his own, and I think that will make him easier to control. He doesn't go on here anymore because he's trying to move on with his life but what he doesn't know is his life is over, the only life in his future is Ellie's. I sometimes take control and it's like he doesn't even notice, maybe I'm a little more subtle than some of the alters that this file has created but I like to make him think the ideas are his so he doesn't resist, like at all. I'm steering towards getting him on hormones to make his body into a beautiful one for me, I'm also making sure he's only watching shemale porn with men. He used to love shemales with each other or shemales with women but I think I'm making it so he can't insert himself into the scenes without a big strong man. I'm building up the courage to to take him to a glory holes but I'm a little worried of disease, since this is going to be my body soon. Still, the thought of having him take a selfie with a dick in his mouth, and maybe "accidentally" sending it to his gf, makes me want control so much that I know I'll eventually win.

Ugh it gets me so horny to write this, I love this file so much. I hope he comes back and sees this once he starts to notice our new titties growing because the idea of destroying his manhood makes me feel so good

by **OxyFemboi** » June 20th, 2018, 4:30 pm

A while ago, moo wrote
I've taken the COGIATI and came back with the "feminine male" result and that was both a relief and a disappointment to me. I do agree with a lot of the criticisms of it though, so I don't know if I believe it's accuracy.

I listened again and don't feel much different. Didn't trance as deep though. I'm going to walk through some feminine aisles of a department store now and see if it Sparks anything, even if it's subtle

I did the COGIATI several times after I had been thinking about being trans. Every time I took it -- which was at, more or less, six-week intervals -- my answers changed. My answers got progressively more femme/feminine over a period of about six months until I was scoring in the 500s [Stage Five].

You might like my file I Doubt I Am Male, which is designed to convince a cis male that he has, in fact, been faking at best, a fake male all his life. I have written this file as an experimental first-person version, where the suggestions are presented as the listener's thoughts. I have a normal second-person version, Doubt You Are Male, ready to post.

by **iotos** » July 2nd, 2018, 10:33 pm

moo4 wrote:Sorry I've been gone so long but I feel so much better now. Michael tried to quit this file and leave the site but he came back and I know it's because it's what he truly wants. We haven't really been talking, he tries to ignore I exist, but I think that's better, that way he thinks my thoughts are his own, and I think that will make him easier to control. He doesn't go on here anymore because he's trying to move on with his life but what he doesn't know is his life is over, the only life in his future is Ellie's. I sometimes take control and it's like he doesn't even notice, maybe I'm a little more subtle than some of the alters that this file has created but I like to make him think the ideas are his so he doesn't resist, like at all. I'm steering towards getting him on hormones to make his body into a beautiful one for me, I'm also making sure he's only watching shemale porn with men. He used to love shemales with each other or shemales with women but I think I'm making it so he can't insert himself into the scenes without a big strong man. I'm building up the courage to to take him to a glory holes but I'm a little worried of disease, since this is going to be my body soon. Still, the thought of having him take a selfie with a dick in his mouth, and maybe "accidentally" sending it to his gf, makes me want control so much that I know I'll eventually win.

Ugh it gets me so horny to write this, I love this file so much. I hope he comes back and sees this once he starts to notice our new titties growing because the idea of destroying his manhood makes me feel so good

If, let’s say in two years time for example, you get gain control over his body (HTR, manhood crushed, etc etc) what happens to Michael? That personality/mind/etc?
Would he be trapped in his/(your) own mind as some type of passive entity?
Do you think he’s gradually losing control of him/yourself?

by **james82** » July 4th, 2018, 2:19 pm

although at times i thought this file was working,it hasnt given me the end result its been over a year now and although i didnt listen to it for a short while i expected by now something should of happened .
so the question is should i keep going or just give up????

by **moo4** » August 27th, 2018, 3:08 am

If, let’s say in two years time for example, you get gain control over his body (HTR, manhood crushed, etc etc) what happens to Michael? That personality/mind/etc?
Would he be trapped in his/(your) own mind as some type of passive entity?
Do you think he’s gradually losing control of him/yourself?

Yes ideally he'd still be there, just a silent prisoner watching his former body change and do things he only dreamed of before. Unfortunately he's been. Stubborn and keeps me repressed and doesn't listen to his files like a good girl should. I need to find a way to beat him into submission and make him the subservient bitch of this body

by **james82** » August 27th, 2018, 2:23 pm

your lucky u managed to get the file to work moo4 been trying for almost a year with out any luck

by **daugo** » August 30th, 2018, 10:19 pm

and yet another took the road to hell..
when will people stop listening to that damn file.

by **whome** » September 1st, 2018, 11:36 pm

Such a negative attitude there daugo; think of it as a road to Elysium. Its an excellent file to start one's journey towards feminization.

by **james82** » September 2nd, 2018, 1:34 am

Unread postby daugo » 31 Aug 2018 04:19
and yet another took the road to hell..
when will people stop listening to that damn file.

i don't think ill let go of the file to it works been listening now for over a year and it was only suppose to take 26 weeks for me :lol:

by **daugo** » September 2nd, 2018, 8:07 pm

Might as well stop trying. if it works it really really works. if it doesn't then nothing will change that. consider yourself blessed that it doesn't work on you.

by **james82** » September 3rd, 2018, 2:13 am

Might as well stop trying. if it works it really really works. if it doesn't then nothing will change that. consider yourself blessed that it doesn't work on you..

really ??? so repeat listening wont do anything????? im not gonna wake up and one day it might start working ???

by **daugo** » September 3rd, 2018, 8:36 pm

after a year of listening? yea probably won't work.

by **james82** » September 4th, 2018, 4:32 am

after a year of listening? yea probably won't work.

well the fact you said probably means theres a chance so im gonna continue :lol:

by **daugo** » September 9th, 2018, 12:25 am

I personally wouldn't, been through that hell before. but you do you.

by **moo4** » September 13th, 2018, 11:00 am

Your road to hell is my road out of hell. Is it such a bad thing to want to live? Especially when one voluntarily offered their life for mine by beginning to listen? I know I've always been in Michael and feel like I'm the real owner of this body. He's fighting back harder now but I think he knows things are better when I'm in charge and will yield eventually. He had a boring, friendless,sexless life and I know I can make all of that better when I eventually get the chance

by **daugo** » September 13th, 2018, 7:18 pm

at least you admit you came from hell

by **james82** » October 9th, 2018, 12:45 pm

this happened to me last night
wow weird experience i dont remember going to bed at all last night ,i was listening to curse female takeover was the last thing i remember and than next thing my alarm went of and i was in bed
has this happened to anyone else ??? could it be file related?? i always sit beside my bed and do my hypno so i would of had to turn my comp sideways,taken of the ear phones got into bed and put the blankets on but i dont remember doing any of this

by **moo4** » October 22nd, 2018, 10:45 pm

ugh, michael is being so annoying and i've been feeling like i haven't gotten anywhere with him, but last night I had him dream he was fucking a trap while he was laying next to his gf. I can't wait to twist these until he is the sexy feminine little trap getting fucked in his dreams, hopefully I can make him wake up moaning and try to explain it to her.

by **napras-sword** » October 23rd, 2018, 9:08 am

Is it such a bad thing to want to live? Especially when one voluntarily offered their life for mine by beginning to listen?

When you then repay them with unending torture? Yes.

ugh, michael is being so annoying and i've been feeling like i haven't gotten anywhere with him, but last night I had him dream he was fucking a trap while he was laying next to his gf. I can't wait to twist these until he is the sexy feminine little trap getting fucked in his dreams, hopefully I can make him wake up moaning and try to explain it to her.

Why are these always so eye-rollingly trite?
"I'm going to punish the original personality for giving me fucking life in the first place"
"And I'm going to be super uncreative about it"

by **james82** » October 23rd, 2018, 1:27 pm

Why are these always so eye-rollingly trite?
"I'm going to punish the original personality for giving me fucking life in the first place"
"And I'm going to be super uncreative about it"

most of the time its just made up crap sadly its too hard to find out how this file works cause of that

by **moo4** » April 7th, 2019, 7:56 am

Just a small strange update.

I've stopped listening to CFT for a while now and thought things had reset to normal and my little experiment was over. However, I've been increasingly having stronger and stronger transgender feelings and its been quite confusing and stressful. I've tried to to them down though and say its just a fetish.

This has finally came to a head last night, as I was researching hormones and feminisation, and was just curious so I began looking into hormones and doses and what things like that cost. I went through and kept clicking and wound up with a cart full of 2 months of estrogen and I kept saying to myself "whats the next step like?" And kind of before I knew it and without thinking too much I had paid and now it is being sent to me :shock:

.

I'm not sure what to do know and I really hope my gf doesn't get to the package before I do because idk how to explain something so stupid. Im torn between getting my hands on them and throwing them right in the garbage, or trying them for a couple weeks to see how I feel.

long story short, this is a pine i never intended on crossing and i cant believe what im doing. Even though its stupid and wreckless, im also so confused and excoted about what im doing. I'm done with the file but I'm not so sure its done with me

by **lillian1** » April 7th, 2019, 2:25 pm

Heya Ellie, I sent you a PM!

by **lauraparidae** » April 7th, 2019, 2:28 pm

moo4 wrote:Even though its stupid and wreckless, im also so confused and excoted about what im doing.

In one of your posts you mentioned that your therapist had suggested trying clothing & gender roles, which I assume means presenting and trying to pass as a woman. I think that's a good suggestion and if it doesn't feel right, try to figure out if presentation matters to you and if it does, how you think the world should see you.

I have also found that a certain "pressure" seems to build up if there's no outlet for it. That pressure can then erupt and cause at least mildly reckless behavior. For me, I think playing World of Warcraft on a "female" character was enough of an outlet to keep the pressure from building. More recently, since I stopped WoW, I have been doing more things in real life as a female (cosplaying, going out, etc) again (like I did before I started WoW) and I also use FaceSwapLive and hypnosis for quick fantasies. For me personally, that's quite enough and aside from fluctuations in the drive to "express my female side", there's no real drive to transition or take hormones, for instance. That's my place in the world and I'm happy that it is so, because transition is a very hard path.

Hypnosis doesn't seem to have a very strong effect on me...it just makes it easier for me to imagine things and the triggers don't generally work. Even so, I avoid files that might try to perform any long term mental programming.

There are real medical risks in taking hormones, so please be careful and consult a doctor and have tests done. Blood clots can kill you. I guess the same thing could be said about uncontrolled use of potentially dangerous hypnosis: if you are susceptible, you could potentially scramble your brain pretty badly. If it's the hypnosis causing the dysphoria, then please stop – that would be like smoking in hopes of getting lung cancer and I don't think that sounds healthy.

To me, it sounds quite possible that you are using hypnosis and hormones as an outlet for the type of pressure that I described above. Try to find gentler outlets and as someone else said, find a therapist that you feel comfortable working with and who is truly interested in helping you.

Also, read some articles on crossdreamers.com.

by **lillian1** » April 7th, 2019, 7:12 pm

lauraparidae wrote:There are real medical risks in taking hormones, so please be careful and consult a doctor and have tests done. Blood clots can kill you. I guess the same thing could be said about uncontrolled use of potentially dangerous hypnosis: if you are susceptible, you could potentially scramble your brain pretty badly. If it's the hypnosis causing the dysphoria, then please stop – that would be like smoking in hopes of getting lung cancer and I don't think that sounds healthy.

To me, it sounds quite possible that you are using hypnosis and hormones as an outlet for the type of pressure that I described above. Try to find gentler outlets and as someone else said, find a therapist that you feel comfortable working with and who is truly interested in helping you.

It's impossible for hypnosis to cause gender dysphoria. If you're experiencing it, it's because you always identified as female on some level, not because a file tells you that's what you are.

Also please stop with the scaremongering about hormones and HRT, I've seen this repeated ad nauseum by older, more ignorant people for years now and it's quite absurd. HRT was dangerous in the 80's and 90's before anti-androgens were properly put into use. Blood clots are exceedingly rare, usually only happen with older transitioners, and even then with proper mitigation techniques are unlikely to ever happen. So long as you get your bloodwork done every 6 months to make sure that everything is okay and in balance you'll be fine.

by **lillian1** » April 7th, 2019, 7:16 pm

I would actually add further, if someone listens to CFT and it has an effect on them, it's because they are trans and identify as female. Hypnosis can't make anyone anything unless you want it, and someone listening to a file like this in the first place clearly has a desire to be a woman.

by **JackDrago** » April 9th, 2019, 4:02 pm

@lillian1

Please be aware that though this is the orthodoxy in the transgender community and the medical establishment goes along because of trans activisim, the underlying question of whether folks who lack a desire to be trans can obtain one through hypnosis is actually unproven by science. Experience on Warp My Mind would tend to prove the opposite: a great many men who get into sissy hypno become uncomfortable in the male gender and proceed to transition.

Also, a significant number of people with extreme gender discomfort choose NOT to transition and nonzero numbers of them go on to be happy as males as I did; so the gender dyphoria = trans notion is really only true by definition; and it's a definition that a certain kind of transperson (typically ones with high dysphoria and a desire to believe that transitioning is the only option) tends to push on the medical community. Since transition is medicalized in this culture, those are the ones that the expert level doctors see and base their opinions on.

I favor extensive study of randomized groups of people to prove the issue scientifically; but until then it's best to let everyone have their journey.
Gatekeeping people without dysphoria out keeps those people from exploring being trans.
Denying the experience of masculine males who have gender issues denies them proper care.
LITERALLY NOBODY BENEFITS FROM AN EXCLUSIVE ATTITUDE.

by **moo4** » June 21st, 2019, 5:25 pm

Another late update but I figured I'd let you guys know what's going on.

I got my hrt (estrogen only) and I took it for around a month. I thought nothing was really changing but now I've noticed I have sensitive breast buds and I love how they feel, even though it's a little embarrassing that I've actually gone through and done some permanent feminization to my body.

I can't believe I've done this but I want and am almost craving more. I'm seriously looking into ordering more estrogen and AA and starting a proper regimine to transition into a woman. I'll have moments where I think its crazy but I always come back to an incredible sense of longing and desperation to start hrt.

before my experiment it was like I was just telling myself I was transgender because it was arousing and it didn't feel true. Now I've been referring to myself as a woman and its felt so natural and thinking of myself in women's clothes/makeup everyday in public makes me want it to become a reality so bad. I want people to call me she/miss and to present fully as female in public now and its a little scary.

I feel like I should turn back bit being a man just isn't what I want anymore. I never wanted to deal with transitioning but now it seems like its my only path if I want to truly be happy

by **MayTong** » June 23rd, 2019, 11:38 am

Though ive never done this file but flirted with similar ones. What you just wrote is how i feel every day. But i have always struggled with living below poverty lvl
I am 30 and have 2 wonderful kids. And i am glad i stayed male long enough to bring them into the world. But every day i long for hrt and transition.

The point of this reply is to say there are those of us that struggle with the same. I both envy your ability to get your hands on hrt but i also feel for you and your struggle.

by **urquan** » June 23rd, 2019, 2:51 pm

Please be aware that though this is the orthodoxy in the transgender community and the medical establishment goes along because of trans activisim, the underlying question of whether folks who lack a desire to be trans can obtain one through hypnosis is actually unproven by science. Experience on Warp My Mind would tend to prove the opposite: a great many men who get into sissy hypno become uncomfortable in the male gender and proceed to transition.

Yeah fuck off with this "trans activism" bullshit. The medical establishment is NOT a friend to trans people - I had significant barriers to care because I didn't fit neatly into the box of "trapped in the wrong body" and that was even with informed consent. And tbh your example of sissy hypno doesn't mean anything. It is well known that hypnosis cannot make people do anything they would never do. If someone is uncomfortable in a male gender, it is because they have reached *some* realization about themselves. The hypnosis may have helped but it *cannot* create the desire or feeling. That's just not how human psychology works.

Also, a significant number of people with extreme gender discomfort choose NOT to transition and nonzero numbers of them go on to be happy as males as I did; so the gender dyphoria = trans notion is really only true by definition; and it's a definition that a certain kind of transperson (typically ones with high dysphoria and a desire to believe that transitioning is the only option) tends to push on the medical community. Since transition is medicalized in this culture, those are the ones that the expert level doctors see and base their opinions on.

Dysphoria is a medically-defined term anyway used to gatekeep transition. You do not need dysphoria to be trans. Being transgender is simply a misalignment between the gender assigned to you at birth and yourself. Someone who is AMAB but decides they aren't 100% male is equally as trans as someone who is AMAB and decides she's 100% female. Have you ever met a trans person? Transition is only medicalized by the medical model and older trans people who had to deal with far higher barriers. The majority of trans people I know do NOT medicalize it.

I favor extensive study of randomized groups of people to prove the issue scientifically; but until then it's best to let everyone have their journey.
Gatekeeping people without dysphoria out keeps those people from exploring being trans.
Denying the experience of masculine males who have gender issues denies them proper care.
LITERALLY NOBODY BENEFITS FROM AN EXCLUSIVE ATTITUDE.

No need to do something so unethical as randomized hypnosis. Gender is and always has been a personal journey.

by **JackDrago** » June 24th, 2019, 3:29 pm

@uruquan mansplaining my own position to me... If you're a transman congrats on your progress. You literally attacked me for having basically your own position on the matter.

Re activism: compare the DSM-V definition of "gender dysphoria" to the DSM-IV one and then look at the ideology of those pushing that interpretation before it was adopted. The influences are obvious when you see what changed and why.

Historically, you are absolutely correct about the bias. Unfortunately it's been hypercorrected in less than healthy and inclusive ways. Doctors are a diverse group and adopt opinions over time at varying rates just like any group does.

Re: gatekeeping. We have similar but opposite issues: I get SO much shit for choosing to stay male and address my discomfort through transition to masculinity. All I can say is it worked for me and that's reflecting the underlying diversity of the phenomenon which the current definition fails to capture.

Re: "Hypnosis can't make you do anything you would never do..." True but only if you mean at the subconscious level. Most everyone has repressed things that can be released through Hypnosis which are often unacknowledged by the conscious mind. Shattered Heterosexuality provided many examples of subjects for whom it was "unthinkable" to turn gay who are now happily homosexual. This is likely as true for gender as sexual orientation.

by **moo4** » September 22nd, 2019, 9:15 am

Just an update, we've ordered our 2nd round of hrt and are taking all our pills on time like a good girl. We haven't told Michaels gf and he's so worried how he's going to explain his limp shrinking clittie and his sensitive soft titties. He's freaking out inside but I can tell he's excited for the changes and loves how his body is starting to feel. I don't think it'll be much trouble to get him to go further now that he sees how good everything can feel.

I'm thinking of starting a grindr profile to get us some cock. Michaels really upset at this but I can tell he really wants it. We've been edging to anal hypno and shemale videos and he's had no objections to that, so this is just the next logical step. He's never been with a man and it'd be SUCH a shame if he never tried it. I can tell there's a bit of longing there, and I can make him submit and be the girl he's always wanted to be for a dominant man, just this one time tonight. <3

by **warren101** » August 12th, 2021, 5:39 pm

I am looking for moo4. Your post was September 2019. I would like to know how your HRT worked. Thanks for any update.