favorite ideas for new files.

[Kendai]

dunno why these topic usually apper in the help section, but anyway.

here are a pair of files i like the sound of, one is antici . . . pation, which you woul use to make yourself for get the story to something, like a movie, so it's like new.

i also kind of like the anime world idea, dunno if it'll be popular enough to be made soon without a pay--in though.

and here are a few of my file submissions:

vigin-sensitive.
like hitting a reset button on your libito.
i remember back one time, at which i came from just staring at scrambled-channel porn, didn't touch myself at all!
now i have to keep finding new things to turn me on, like i'm wearing everything out! this file would be desighned to fix that.

i also submitted a curse version of the idea. imagine if that sexy desktop turned you on as if you never saw a woman in a bikini before, every time you saw it!


then there's the oh-so useful idea for a subliminal re-enforcing file.
i think any of us using triggers or training files could use something so convinient.

[Cubeguru]

AMEN, i'd play the subliminal re-inforcing file all the time and id have it on my mp3 player...its an ace idea.

[Kendai]

got a pair of new ones, useful tool first.

trigger punctuation.
spoken triggers would have to be followed by a clap or finger snap to work.

trig piggy girl
turns your girl, toy, you, whatever female it's being used on, all red, and makes them want to be covered in mud. fun for those of you with a backyard and privacy fence.

note to self, make absolutely sure nothing already exzists like yor file ideas, no, i didn't check these for duplicates first. . . i'll do it next time.

[kat404]

CCP (cum production) for females.

Katherine

[mone]

i saw this file in the voting section id love to see it here and have it working.
[quote]This is a memory helpfile obviously, which might appeal to heavy computer users. I've always wanted to be able to access my memories as easily as I can files on a computer, so why not have a mental OS? Close your eyes and see your mind as a desktop where you can arrange your memories, re-read books and notes you've made for exams for example... play that piece of music that you'd normaly only remember a few bars of. Your M-Pod would never run out of batteries. Something else that would be good with this, would be a print feature... If theres a piece of text you can remember, you could write it out flawlessly. Got a picture in your mind? Print it exactly as you see it. All computers have a clock in their taskbars, how handy would it be to know the exact time at all times? Never be late for anything again. Games too would be a possibility, everyone knows M$ solitair, mines etc, the human mind can do things subconsiously that the consious mind is unaware of, like generate randoms that could run games like these. Once in place, it'd be available at all times. It could be turned off by a trigger or the action of shutting down, like windows. Once off, another trigger would bring it back.[/quote]

[makidas]

i second mones suggestion :) :)

[danmalara]

I don't. I'd be afraid of getting a virus!!!!!

[makidas]

toiuche...., but i dont think it would be possible to get a computer virus in your head, lol, but who knows :) :) :)

[xanthk]

Some people can crash any system. Especially if your head's new interface is like windows :twisted:

[makidas]

yea, did you hear about microsofts new security system? it never forgets to lock up! :) :) :)

[loony28]

[quote="danmalara"]I don't. I'd be afraid of getting a virus!!!!![/quote]

:twisted: The only way to get a mind virus is if you listened to a virual hypnosis file. :twisted:

[EMG]

Hmm, a viral hypnosis file... Now there's an idea :)

[quote="loony28":d36/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/ib5cd][quote="danmalara":d36/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/ib5cd]I don't. I'd be afraid of getting a virus!!!!![/quote:d36/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/ib5cd]

:twisted: The only way to get a mind virus is if you listened to a virual hypnosis file. :twisted:[/quote:d36/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/ib5cd]

[loony28]

[quote="EMG":b/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i3649cd]Hmm, a viral hypnosis file... Now there's an idea :)[/quote:b/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i3649cd]

:twisted: Uh-Oh I think I gave EMG an idea. I just submitted a file idea on the vote page and I hope it passes muster, I think it will. The file is called Massive Multi-Player Dream Game and here's what I wrote for the description;

This file will enable those who listen to it to either create or join an already created Dream Game. The trigger is Dream Game Time and as it suggests you will fall asleep. Once triggered you will find yourself in a room where you can pick to join a Dream Game or create your own (the way the room looks is up to the user as is how you create or join games). The basic options for either creating a game or creating a character on joining a game for the first time is; age, sex, and name. When creating a game you must include these three options for the gamers to create their character with and you can add as many other options as you like. Also the creator sets the time distortion between the dream game and real time. The limits for the time distortion are 1 hour dream game time = 1 hour real time to 1 year dream game time = 1 hour real time. The creator can set the distortion to anything within this limit (the gamer will know what the distortion is set to before joining a game). Keep in mind that time in the dream game continues even if no one is there. The gamer's character doesn't change while outside of the dream game so if the distortion is set to the highest level and the gamer is outside of the game for 16 hours real time when they pop back into the game the dream game time will have advanced by 16 years and a lot could have changed in that time while the gamer's character didn't change at all. The creator can also set aging on or off and set the time the gamer has to wait in real time before rejoining the game if their character dies. Now for the gamer, when the gamer joins a dream game for the first time they have to create their character. The three basic option of; age, sex, and name will be there for you to choose from as well as any additional options the creator makes available. The gamer will be able to see how they look before finalizing the character creation. If the gamer doesn't like the way their character looks they can change any of the available options before finalizing. After you set your options and finalize your character creation you will go straight to the game. You will only have to go through this the first time you join a game, when you join the same game later you will go straight to the game. When you are in the game you will be the character you created and will experience everything that happens. For example if you created your character as female you will feel everything a female would feel like the weight of your breasts. Having sex in the games is entirely possible so you would feel a males penis entering you, pushing in and pulling out as you have sex (using the female character example). This would be great for those who want to know what it's like to be the opposite sex and it could lead to some very erotic games. If EMG wants he can split this into two files, one for the creator and one for the gamer. Just think of the possible dream games that people could come up with.

I do hope that this file gets put up for voting. From what I've read people can have shared dreams, what this will do is take that concept to another level. It'd be interesting to see what kind of dream games some of you would come up with. :twisted:

[sandy82]

Loony28, I genuinely applaud the breadth and detail of your imagination. I'm not sure I understand the concept completely. It seems to me that it would be impossible to put all this on even two normal-length MP3 files.

I'm no expert on the subject, but the overall subject of most MP3 files can be summed up in one phrase or sentence. Lose weight, quit smoking, become a total jock, enjoy humiliation, etc. I suppose these short explanations describe the focus of the file. Without focus, a file may tend to lose impact.

Your enthusiasm for the topic suggests to me that it's worth your time to pursue it. Try refining the idea and even numbering the subsets in your overall concept.

[xanthk]

Hmm, shared dreaming rpg's. Ok, you've got my attention. Sounds like three pieces to me.

1) World creator - This file allows a person to set the environment and rules for their world. This would include the landscape, notable history, and time dilation - real time to game time.

2) Character creation - This guides the listener through the formation of their virtual persona. Allows for the selection of gender, age, and physical characteristics.

3) Join game - This allows the listener to reach out and find an existing game, putting their character into the world someone else has created. They would be able to affect the world they have joined only to the extent of their character's abilities.

Anything I've left out or gotten totally wrong let me know, I want to get in on this.

[makidas]

o wow, this is such a great idea, has anyone ever experienced a shared dream? :) :) :)

[xanthk]

I have a couple times in the past shared dreams with one person really close to me. It's odd at first, but great. I'd love to get something like this controlled with a larger group. :)

[xanthk]

Hey, one question that's just occurred to me thinking about this, what happens to the game worlds at the points where the creators quit playing? Does everyone wake up? Or do they keep playing as long as someone is there to maintain the existence of the world?

And if everyone wakes up, does time pass in the world in its creators absence?

Oh, the things one thinks of in the middle of the night. :P

[b-poe-01]

My apologies for having a lapse of judgement last night and posting too much drivel for my own good. :)

This is what I get for trying too hard to be helpful too late at night.

It happens you know, I am just grateful for the opportunity to correct my mistakes. Thank you.

Brad Poe

[sandy82]

Brad, no apologies are necessary when enthusiasm is the cause.

Glad to have you here!

[loony28]

[quote="xanthk"]Hey, one question that's just occurred to me thinking about this, what happens to the game worlds at the points where the creators quit playing? Does everyone wake up? Or do they keep playing as long as someone is there to maintain the existence of the world?

And if everyone wakes up, does time pass in the world in its creators absence?

Oh, the things one thinks of in the middle of the night. :P[/quote]

:twisted: The dream game would always be there unless there is no one in it for an extended period of time. It does not depend on the creator to remain in game. :twisted:

[quote="xanthk"]Hmm, shared dreaming rpg's. Ok, you've got my attention. Sounds like three pieces to me.

1) World creator - This file allows a person to set the environment and rules for their world. This would include the landscape, notable history, and time dilation - real time to game time.

2) Character creation - This guides the listener through the formation of their virtual persona. Allows for the selection of gender, age, and physical characteristics.

3) Join game - This allows the listener to reach out and find an existing game, putting their character into the world someone else has created. They would be able to affect the world they have joined only to the extent of their character's abilities.

Anything I've left out or gotten totally wrong let me know, I want to get in on this.[/quote]

:twisted: That's a pretty good summation. :twisted:

[b-poe-01]

Hey there.

Thanks for the welcome and kind words. Much appreciated.

Brad Poe

[loony28]

[quote="makidas":c4fb55f/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i]o wow, this is such a great idea, has anyone ever experienced a shared dream? :) :) :)[/quote:c4fb55f/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i]

:twisted: Well I'm glad that people are obviously interested in the idea. I enjoy multi-player computer games and I figured we could try something different. These dream games could be really cool. :twisted:

[danmalara]

It's very interesting, I think it would be a ton of fun, but the whole thing is a tad confusing there are too many variables, I think. If the file ever comes out, it should come with a game manual. :lol:

[loony28]

[quote="danmalara":85/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/iaf1bf]It's very interesting, I think it would be a ton of fun, but the whole thing is a tad confusing there are too many variables, I think. If the file ever comes out, it should come with a game manual. :lol:[/quote:85/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/iaf1bf]

:twisted: I forgot about the game manuals :oops: . Of course there will have to be some way for players to learn how to play the dream games. Perhaps tutorials should be a mandatory part ot the games. :twisted:

[xanthk]

Perhaps when the games are first established, there could be a world set up just for learning the ways of the worlds, as it were. A zone where everyone in it is either another new player, or someone there just to answer questions and help familiarize new players. New players wouldn't be able to join other games until they've first spent some time in this one.

[Kendai]

any of you have a slave or spouse on orgasm denial?

i just posted an idea called "maintained desire" which would keep someone horny untill they have an orgasm!

with orgasm denial, if they get turned on, they won't be able to calm down untill you let them cum!

and anyone think it would be fun to have a file that programs a sex game into a group? i'm thinking of submitting a file that would be a contest of who can last the longest on orgasm denial without giving in to the urge to trigger thier own orgasm.

[whobleyh]

What about a file that would make you think that you can see fairies?
Would be cool, he? I'm reading this book that tells about a stories that are indicating that fairies and such would be real. It all seems like a bunch of urban stories, but it would be great if you could truly believe they're walking (flying) around :P

[Bodyhater]

Back to the dream world...

You don't need a "learning world", it would need to be like the real world, learn as you go.

[Kendai]

1. faeries. in particular, i could use one to nag me into getting stuff done.

2. dream games. interesting idea, but maybe we should start smaller, like just a lucid dream room that people can make stuff in.

[xanthk]

[quote="Bodyhater":8/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i294e2f]Back to the dream world...

You don't need a "learning world", it would need to be like the real world, learn as you go.[/quote:8/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i294e2f]

The real world, while being "learn as you go," has the equivalent of a learning world as well. Think of the time spent at home and school learning the skills to live life alone before actually going out and doing so.

[nuit09]

Well, i've though t about it and there are a few people here who express interest in paranormal or magical scripts.

So how about a script that teaches the basic technique of astral shapeshifting? The change is in the astral body not the physical. The aura or astral body is altered into another shape for various reasons. magicians believe doing this can have effects in the physical world. it is suggested that this is a useful defense for example. even if you do not believe in the astral and auras per se; the psychological boost alone is reason enough for it to be useful for defense. For example if you believe your astral body has grown into a huge dangerous people munching dragon and you are that dragon in a sense then it will effect your confidence and so on. so it will effect how you act how you carry yourself and how other people percieve you.

The file will effect your ability to hold an image in your mind and it will put a visual template for the astral body and or aura for you to work shapeshifting from. it will also augment the ability to manipulate the astral template i just mentioned. And if you do believe in such things to begin with the astral body is the basis for what happens in the physical world. so continual shapeshifiting will have physical effects if you remain in one form and work on it intensely, repeatedly and constantly. it can also be used to heal the body because what manifests in the astral body happens to the physical and vise versa.

[nuit09]

This file would allow you to break your rythym so to speak so that your actions fall outside of statistical probability norms. the you become attuned to the rythym of events and able to act in a way that maximized you ability to fall ouside of the average. for example if you were to be playing a slot machine normally your natural rythym of activating the machine would be within a gausian distribution curve and thus you would lose a lot and win a little. But with this file you break that pattern. you throw when the random table is on a payout more often because your timing is a little offset from what is expected. you synch with the optimal pattern in spite of your natural rythym. it applies to any situation where there is an underlying probability pattern. you do this consciously. you can choose to break your pattern and thus enhance your chances. it is also subconsciously ingrained so that you notice when such an offset would have a good effect so you can call it into play when appropriate. it does not increase your statistical probaility in relation to negative consequences because you must choose to apply or not apply the talent though you awareness of opportunity to use it is instinctive.

[goldragon_70]

[quote="nuit/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i9"]Well, i've though t about it and there are a few people here who express interest in paranormal or magical scripts.

So how about a script that teaches the basic technique of astral shapeshifting? The change is in the astral body not the physical. The aura or astral body is altered into another shape for various reasons. magicians believe doing this can have effects in the physical world. it is suggested that this is a useful defense for example. even if you do not believe in the astral and auras per se; the psychological boost alone is reason enough for it to be useful for defense. For example if you believe your astral body has grown into a huge dangerous people munching dragon and you are that dragon in a sense then it will effect your confidence and so on. so it will effect how you act how you carry yourself and how other people percieve you.

The file will effect your ability to hold an image in your mind and it will put a visual template for the astral body and or aura for you to work shapeshifting from. it will also augment the ability to manipulate the astral template i just mentioned. And if you do believe in such things to begin with the astral body is the basis for what happens in the physical world. so continual shapeshifiting will have physical effects if you remain in one form and work on it intensely, repeatedly and constantly. it can also be used to heal the body because what manifests in the astral body happens to the physical and vise versa.[/quote]

Well, I think first (because few people can) there need to be a file that will take you into a meditative/trance state, and then teach you how to move and use your astral body.

[nuit09]

Elementary meditation is ...well, elementary. ;) I'd say anyone following the hypnosis scripts here are already doing an elemetary form of meditation enroute to the trance state.

besides there are a few visualization enhancing scripts here already. This is an application of visualization primarily; though it does enhance visualization skills as well.

[goldragon_70]

[quote="nuit/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i9"]Elementary meditation is ...well, elementary. ;) I'd say anyone following the hypnosis scripts here are already doing an elemetary form of meditation enroute to the trance state.

besides there are a few visualization enhancing scripts here already. This is an application of visualization primarily; though it does enhance visualization skills as well.[/quote]

yes, every time you listen to a file with an induction you go into trance, but very few people know about there astral body and how to use it, so making a file to change it's form would be no use unless, you know how to interact with it. :p

[nuit09]

How about a file that regresses your DNA to a younger age by restoring the chromosome end caps (telomeres) to the lengths they were as a teenager? in addition it reactivates genes active in youth but going dormant as we age. things like IGF and HGF production, deactivating DHT production, undoing free radical damage to the code itself, revitalising enzymes and RNA to reinvigorate healing, increase elastin and collagen production. basically this grant's youth the more you listen to it. it uses an alternate more scientific rational than some of the files that just expect you to magically make the change. And so it should act synergistically with similar files.

How about one that regresses the cells to the embryo stage and then redoubles X chromosome expression of proteins and deactivates the Y chromosome. then the cells are progressed back to thier normal age. the idea is to effectively alter your genetic gender to female because it acts as if there are two x chromosomes and no y chromosome. it can also attempt to alter things like your present bone structure because you should not develop male eybrow ridge bossing and blunt forehead mandibular angle, dentition, cheekbones, masculine nose structure, larnxy, vocal cords, torso, narrow pelvis large hands and feet and even hairline. it might evenalter your genitals and breasts. It is true that there are other files that also attempt this but this file has the virtue of providing a plausible biological means of such a change happening and as it works in harmony to the other file's goals it should work synergistically with them

[goldragon_70]

[quote="nuit/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i9"]How about a file that regresses your DNA to a younger age by restoring the chromosome end caps (telomeres) to the lengths they were as a teenager? in addition it reactivates genes active in youth but going dormant as we age. things like IGF and HGF production, deactivating DHT production, undoing free radical damage to the code itself, revitalising enzymes and RNA to reinvigorate healing, increase elastin and collagen production. basically this grant's youth the more you listen to it. it uses an alternate more scientific rational than some of the files that just expect you to magically make the change. And so it should act synergistically with similar files. [/quote]

well you forgot, getting the body to remove poisions that collect in the body over time, and causing cell that normaly don't replicate to do so. If this file works, then it would have other good effects, like alowing the listener to encrease cell regeneration.

[quote="nuit/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i9"]How about one that regresses the cells to the embryo stage and then redoubles X chromosome expression of proteins and deactivates the Y chromosome. then the cells are progressed back to thier normal age. the idea is to effectively alter your genetic gender to female because it acts as if there are two x chromosomes and no y chromosome. it can also attempt to alter things like your present bone structure because you should not develop male eybrow ridge bossing and blunt forehead mandibular angle, dentition, cheekbones, masculine nose structure, larnxy, vocal cords, torso, narrow pelvis large hands and feet and even hairline. it might evenalter your genitals and breasts. It is true that there are other files that also attempt this but this file has the virtue of providing a plausible biological means of such a change happening and as it works in harmony to the other file's goals it should work synergistically with them[/quote]

well, it would pobably be batter to replicate the part of the cormason missing from the Y from the X so that you're bod still has two mostly diffrent chromosomes to get some trates from.

[nuit09]

Compared to the x chromosome (IIRC) the y chromosome is not just missing a branch. it is tiny with far fewer actual genes. as far as i know there is no biological process that can change the y into an X the RNA/ enzyme matrix just cannot do it. it would require something not programmed as possible by evolution. X chromosome amplification is found in nature in some organisms so the mechanism is there for that to happen.

allale variation is responsible for trait variations like green eyes or red hair. the amount of activated genes creating messenger proteins are responsible for amplification of traits. a double X cromosome would suffice to alter sex and leave a viable organism. however you could specify that genes common to both x and y chromosomes are used randomly between x and y and only exclusively male genes are deactivated.

The idea for this file is to provide a biological rationale for the sex change process to help the analytical subject get into the idea being scientifically feasible. As you know i also use magickal ideas for my script suggestions; the idea that the change just is and there is no why to them in the standard scientific sense. But within one script i am cautious of mixing the two methods. that is not to say someone who uses one sort of ideation could not use both , in fact i think it would tend to accelerate the results. but i do not like the idea of using both forms of ideation in on script. i think it greatly amplifies the complexity of the job and muddles the process and might be counter productive. i think it may be best to use one process in one script and the other process in another even if they are used consecutively.

i could be wrong about it being counterproductive. it may be that the script writer could state each succinctly, simply and powerfully in the same script. i doubt i could. i think if i wrote a compound script it would be a hopelessly confusing muddle of mutually antagonistic themes. destructive resonance if you will where the sum of the parts are much much less than the single whole of either. but perhaps a good hypnotist could write one where the themes are in harmonic resonance with each other. I'll leave that decision to the script writer.

[nuit09]

The proposed astral shapeshifting file is now on the voting page. :D

[nuit09]

How about a file that causes a male to shorten in height to approach norms for a female? i only know of one anecdote where this happened as a result of meditation but if one person can do it ( if you can grant that the anecdote was true ) then everyone should be able to do it. while were at it we could shoot for other skeletal changes like hand and feet size and skull shape and pelvic bone shape.

[nuit09]

A script to allow the subject the visualization and will development skills and meditiation ability needed to gather astral energy into a thought form, granting it enough energy to animate so that to the subject it appears in the real world and even if enough energy is added to it through giving it or granting it permission to gather it's own energy with certain safeguards so that it can actually manifest physically. Magical lore is rife with such feats. artificial beings created by force of will and visualization alone as servants, companions, guardians, messengers familiars, pets and so forth.

[goldragon_70]

[quote="nuit/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i9":/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/iee28e8d]A script to allow the subject the visualization and will development skills and meditiation ability needed to gather astral energy into a thought form, granting it enough energy to animate so that to the subject it appears in the real world and even if enough energy is added to it through giving it or granting it permission to gather it's own energy with certain safeguards so that it can actually manifest physically. Magical lore is rife with such feats. artificial beings created by force of will and visualization alone as servants, companions, guardians, messengers familiars, pets and so forth.[/quote:/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/iee28e8d]

I like this file best out of all the ones you have suggested.

[nuit09]

[quote="goldragon_7/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i"][quote="nuit/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i9"]A script to allow the subject the visualization and will development skills and meditiation ability needed to gather astral energy into a thought form, granting it enough energy to animate so that to the subject it appears in the real world and even if enough energy is added to it through giving it or granting it permission to gather it's own energy with certain safeguards so that it can actually manifest physically. Magical lore is rife with such feats. artificial beings created by force of will and visualization alone as servants, companions, guardians, messengers familiars, pets and so forth.[/quote]

I like this file best out of all the ones you have suggested.[/quote]I will fill in some technical details and propose it soon. I do not know if having more than one proposed script harms the chances of one of my ideas making it to the top or not. i almost want to wait to see what happens with the one i have up for vote now. :?

[nuit09]

[quote="goldragon_7/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i":d/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i883b/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i4][quote="nuit/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i9":d/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i883b/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i4]A script to allow the subject the visualization and will development skills and meditiation ability needed to gather astral energy into a thought form, granting it enough energy to animate so that to the subject it appears in the real world and even if enough energy is added to it through giving it or granting it permission to gather it's own energy with certain safeguards so that it can actually manifest physically. Magical lore is rife with such feats. artificial beings created by force of will and visualization alone as servants, companions, guardians, messengers familiars, pets and so forth.[/quote:d/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i883b/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i4]

I like this file best out of all the ones you have suggested.[/quote:d/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i883b/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i4]it's basically an externalized version of the astral shape shifting skill. basically. with a couple of added concepts like drawing and adding energy and granting animation/intelligence.

[goldragon_70]

[quote="nuit/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i9"][quote="goldragon_7/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i"][quote="nuit/\[url=(https?:\/\/[^\s\[]+):$uid\](.*?)\[\/url:$uid\]/i9"]A script to allow the subject the visualization and will development skills and meditiation ability needed to gather astral energy into a thought form, granting it enough energy to animate so that to the subject it appears in the real world and even if enough energy is added to it through giving it or granting it permission to gather it's own energy with certain safeguards so that it can actually manifest physically. Magical lore is rife with such feats. artificial beings created by force of will and visualization alone as servants, companions, guardians, messengers familiars, pets and so forth.[/quote]

I like this file best out of all the ones you have suggested.[/quote]it's basically an externalized version of the astral shape shifting skill. basically. with a couple of added concepts like drawing and adding energy and granting animation/intelligence.[/quote]

The way you explained this one, it goes about it not assuming the listener knows how to do any of it, which will make it appealing to more people.

[nuit09]

True. there are two possible levels of success with this file: the subject will either halucinate a companion of some sort or they will plumb the depths of this technique and actually learn to manifest something magickal. someone who knows the lore but lacks the visualization and other skills necessary to do this type of procedure will perhaps gain the skills needed to do it. and someone who does not necessarily believe in magick can still get something out of it in the form of a hypnotically induced halucinatory experience of a pleasant nature. either way it is a useful concept.

[goldragon_70]

Even if that person doesn’t believe in magic, there own imagination will make a being astraly, although, it will only be seen by them and the others that can see the sprits that walk with us.

Even those who don't believe have power.

[nuit09]

True but if they do not believe in astral senses they may see only a non astral halucination. not that their astral construct won't be there but they probably won't see it astrally. and their astral construct will fade away unless they feed it energy or it discover's astral vampirism on it's own. I'm speculating, of course as regards the nonbeliever not getting much astral benefit from the exercise.

speaking of astral vampirism; i may need to include some safety valves so that my script idea does not spawn a bunch of astral parasites. it is possible according to lore for an astral construct like this to become independant if it is not closely supervised by learning to prey on other's astral energy. such creatures normally become extremely belligerent and dangerous often running amok. according to lore they can actually drain a host dry and kill them over a sustained period of time.

a related type of magickal construct made manifest in the material world according to the lore was the prague golem. it grew willful and violent and had to be uncreated after it ran amok. an interesting legend there. look it up some time...

[nuit09]

This one may be too complex to achieve in one script. firstly there is visulization. this is difficult for many people, so that must be augmented in the script. Then there is the idea of gathering vital or astral energy. that may require teaching some energy disciplines like the Golden Dawn's circulation of the body of light or eastern prana or Chi breathing. then there is exerting the will to animate/ imbue with some level intelligence and personality. then there is maintenance. then there is safeguards and or disolution. Most magicians will not leave one of these things going indefinitely. they normally disolve them before they get uppity and cause trouble. Especially true of artificial egregores and servitors (ask the chaos mage running around here.) It's less true of tulpoids and guardians, though. And DMK's sex magick has astral lovers that i don't think get dissolved.

So i do not know what to do with this script. break it into a series or try to do it all in one script.