The forced gay success thread...

[askme3]

Day 4: Nothing much changed during listen, but the whole day I've been walking around with strange thoughts in my head, like the buzzing "I'm gay" is getting louder.

Day 3 i couldn't listen but like you have that strange thought in my head also still whether im gay or straight def thoughts and saying from file still running through my head , but i was looking at girls again yesterday finding them hot and fuckable but when this thought happened my mind would question it, strange it is.

Will report on day 4 later this evening its morning here now.

[askme3]

Day 4 so far , ok so listened this morning first thing got very horny watched Gay porn and cum. Just went on the net now and looked at some woman pussy and woman in general to see if i could get hard and horny again , its like my mind is trying to fight it knowing the woman are hot etc , again i see the tits and in my head that sentence comes in "there only bumps" and "what are you doing looking at pussy " but still on other i get a thought mmm i would like to fuck that.
So obviously the file is working to an extent but still obviously hasn't got rid of me wanting or still thinking woman are hot.

Does anyone know how long it will take to lose everything for a woman ?

[koushiro]

Morning of day 5, haven't listened today yet but when I was cleaning my butthole after a dump i got seriously horny and wanted something in it. Was tempted to shove a finger or two right up but my nails are kind of long and I didn't want to risk scratching anything. But damn that feeling's still there. I would have wanted to say that 2 weeks isn't enough to feel a sizeable change but after this morning I think that feeling's changed.

[askme3]

Morning of day 5, haven't listened today yet but when I was cleaning my butthole after a dump i got seriously horny and wanted something in it. Was tempted to shove a finger or two right up but my nails are kind of long and I didn't want to risk scratching anything. But damn that feeling's still there. I would have wanted to say that 2 weeks isn't enough to feel a sizeable change but after this morning I think that feeling's changed.

Im halfway through day 4 now and my wife and i were mucking around before and im still totally turned on by her and she still got me hard, didn't feel a non attraction at all.

[Alien4420]

If you're like many of us, you'll be turned on by men long before you're turned off by women.

[askme3]

If you're like many of us, you'll be turned on by men long before you're turned off by women.

OK, Ive listened like 4 days only though so i will give it some time.

[askme3]

ok half way through day 5 have not listened to file today though.
Have no feeling to look at gay porn at moment and no attraction to guys , still get slight thoughts about the file in my head but alot weaker.
Def still hot for my wife she got me hard last night.

Question do i still continue listening will it change around soon or do people think this file may just not work totally on me or does it take time ?

[koushiro]

ok half way through day 5 have not listened to file today though.
Have no feeling to look at gay porn at moment and no attraction to guys , still get slight thoughts about the file in my head but alot weaker.
Def still hot for my wife she got me hard last night.

Question do i still continue listening will it change around soon or do people think this file may just not work totally on me or does it take time ?

I think the fact that you're thinking of the file means it's working? I think the file has different effects for different people. everyone succumbs to it in their own way there's no one hard and fast way to react. If you really want it just keep at it. The fastest surefire way to make it not work is breaking the listening rhythm. Maybe you're the kind that snaps after that x number of listens?

Anyway day 6 and for the hell of it I did this gay test online and to my surprise I was getting hard at the guys instead of girls. I should have felt slightly disgusted seeing the guys in that position but I got turned on instead. I think I'll be part of the fold soon. The Desire to reverse this is starting to diminish as well. part of me wants to be happily gay.

[Alien4420]

ok half way through day 5 have not listened to file today though.
Have no feeling to look at gay porn at moment and no attraction to guys , still get slight thoughts about the file in my head but alot weaker.
Def still hot for my wife she got me hard last night.

Question do i still continue listening will it change around soon or do people think this file may just not work totally on me or does it take time ?

It takes some time. In my case I think it was about a month, listening twice a day, before I started to really get turned on by guys I saw. I'd have to go back and look at my old posts to find out. So I'd just keep at it and checking every day to see what happens. Once the changes start for real, you'll notice a new change every day. And that continues even after you realize you're gay. For a long time I'd wake up every morning convinced I was straight again, only to discover that I wasn't.

[askme3]

ok half way through day 5 have not listened to file today though.
Have no feeling to look at gay porn at moment and no attraction to guys , still get slight thoughts about the file in my head but alot weaker.
Def still hot for my wife she got me hard last night.

Question do i still continue listening will it change around soon or do people think this file may just not work totally on me or does it take time ?

It takes some time. In my case I think it was about a month, listening twice a day, before I started to really get turned on by guys I saw. I'd have to go back and look at my old posts to find out. So I'd just keep at it and checking every day to see what happens. Once the changes start for real, you'll notice a new change every day. And that continues even after you realize you're gay. For a long time I'd wake up every morning convinced I was straight again, only to discover that I wasn't.

ok cool will keep at it.

[sr5]

A question for the straight-to-gay turnees: What are the best things about becoming gay? The excitement of discovering your sexuality for a second time? Is the sex better?

[Alien4420]

A question for the straight-to-gay turnees: What are the best things about becoming gay? The excitement of discovering your sexuality for a second time? Is the sex better?

Both, really. The sex is so much better, and you feel like a teenager at first, discovering your sexuality all over again. Plus, these files make you incredibly horny while you're listening to them.

It's also -- I don't know how to describe it -- exciting to change and t do something forbidden and outrageous. And to be controlled, if you have a fetish for that. And the files have suggestions to make you love being gay. I've listened to some files that make you more gay acting, too, and I love that too.

But, really, a lot of it is just like being straight. You spend years being obsessed with women and then your whole sexuality is moved over to guys and you're obsessed with them. I know that sounds obvious and I'm not doing a very good job of communicating what I'm trying to say, but if you think of it from the perspective of the subconscious mind -- you love being straight, you change, you love being gay with the same basic sexual energy. only your partners are as horny and eager as you are and know exactly what you want.

[askme3]

Couldn't listen yesterday was to busy :(

I have however been totally uninterested in listening to file and thoughts of file have become less frequent etc, no interest in gay porn at all , i think i am at that stage where i am going to have to force myself to listen.

[Alien4420]

Couldn't listen yesterday was to busy :(

I have however been totally uninterested in listening to file and thoughts of file have become less frequent etc, no interest in gay porn at all , i think i am at that stage where i am going to have to force myself to listen.

Yeah, you'll have to listen to it for a while longer before it really starts to take hold.

[setzer]

When you get to 2 weeks, you'll get horny, jerk off to gay porn here and there. It will come in waves and die down a little. (If you guys stop listening after two weeks) You might find girls a little less attractive but I think you need a lot more times before serious changes like that happen.

[AD007]

Haven't listened to this file in a while but coming back here and reading how others have been affected and are working though the process was so hot! I had to listen again. :)

I can only recommend those who have started... keep listening and enjoy! I haven't listened to the file much lately since I've been so busy with work but I think it continues to have some latent effects.

[askme3]

Have lost all interest in listening to file and its day 6, i didn't listen yesterday only because was to busy but today is a nothing feeling, no thoughts of guys what so ever. Struggling to even make myself listen today.

[Alien4420]

Have lost all interest in listening to file and its day 6, i didn't listen yesterday only because was to busy but today is a nothing feeling, no thoughts of guys what so ever. Struggling to even make myself listen today.

Sounds like you've hit some resistance? When that happens to me, I find that I can get around it by listening to the file and forcing myself to stay in trance. Once I'm accepting the suggestions again I become interested in the file again. But -- with a file as addictive as this one, you should probably ask yourself whether you really want to do that!

As to the changes themselves, they won't begin to occur for a few weeks yet. I've found it's pretty common to have a fairly strong reaction to a file at first, then have the effects seemingly wear off as you enter a period of resistance, and then firm up and become progressively stronger when you're past the resistance. Which is what Freud noticed when treating neurotics.

[desiresperverse]

Are we talking about the forced bisexual?

[askme3]

Have lost all interest in listening to file and its day 6, i didn't listen yesterday only because was to busy but today is a nothing feeling, no thoughts of guys what so ever. Struggling to even make myself listen today.

Sounds like you've hit some resistance? When that happens to me, I find that I can get around it by listening to the file and forcing myself to stay in trance. Once I'm accepting the suggestions again I become interested in the file again. But -- with a file as addictive as this one, you should probably ask yourself whether you really want to do that!

As to the changes themselves, they won't begin to occur for a few weeks yet. I've found it's pretty common to have a fairly strong reaction to a file at first, then have the effects seemingly wear off as you enter a period of resistance, and then firm up and become progressively stronger when you're past the resistance. Which is what Freud noticed when treating neurotics.

yes huge resistance , havent listened today again either just not bothered but going to force myself again tmrw and start again.

[Alien4420]

yes huge resistance , havent listened today again either just not bothered but going to force myself again tmrw and start again.

You could try listening to EMG's "Train Suscepible" right before listening to CFG, a couple of us have found it useful in overcoming resistance to CFG. Also, EMG's "Freedom from Mental Bondage" might help to free you from whatever baggage you picked up about being gay.

Finally, Mind Mistress has a CD called "Choices." That one is really insidious because it programs you so that whenever you decide you can't possibly do something that turns you on you end up throwing caution to the winds and acting like a total slut. I listened to it for a while maybe six months ago and didn't think it had done anything, only to find it kicking in when I was debating the penis shrink files -- the moment I said to myself I can't do that it kicked in and I just had to listen.

[askme3]

yes huge resistance , havent listened today again either just not bothered but going to force myself again tmrw and start again.

You could try listening to EMG's "Train Suscepible" right before listening to CFG, a couple of us have found it useful in overcoming resistance to CFG. Also, EMG's "Freedom from Mental Bondage" might help to free you from whatever baggage you picked up about being gay.

Finally, Mind Mistress has a CD called "Choices." That one is really insidious because it programs you so that whenever you decide you can't possibly do something that turns you on you end up throwing caution to the winds and acting like a total slut. I listened to it for a while maybe six months ago and didn't think it had done anything, only to find it kicking in when I was debating the penis shrink files -- the moment I said to myself I can't do that it kicked in and I just had to listen.

so listen to train susceptible then have a 20 min break then listen to cfg ?

[Alien4420]

so listen to train susceptible then have a 20 min break then listen to cfg ?

I cued up the Train Susceptible body, the CFG body, and the CFG awakening, and listened to them as a unit. That way you don't have to go through two inductions.

[askme3]

so listen to train susceptible then have a 20 min break then listen to cfg ?

I cued up the Train Susceptible body, the CFG body, and the CFG awakening, and listened to them as a unit. That way you don't have to go through two inductions.

Ok so how do i do that ? Im not great on the itunes thing.

I havent listened for 3 days now and im sure im on my 7 day or so.
Update Thursday and Friday had no interest what so ever, even on Thurs tongued my wife out and still enjoyed it kissing her etc, however one little slight thing i noticed i was hard then i starting going a little soft (not as hard ) still managed to cum in her mouth .

Now its Saturday and still had no interest but decided just now to go have a look at some gay porn and see what happens and it had got me hard as a rockbut if i was to cum right now the interest then may just dissapear again in becoming Gay.

[Alien4420]

so listen to train susceptible then have a 20 min break then listen to cfg ?

I cued up the Train Susceptible body, the CFG body, and the CFG awakening, and listened to them as a unit. That way you don't have to go through two inductions.

Ok so how do i do that ? Im not great on the itunes thing.

I havent listened for 3 days now and im sure im on my 7 day or so.
Update Thursday and Friday had no interest what so ever, even on Thurs tongued my wife out and still enjoyed it kissing her etc, however one little slight thing i noticed i was hard then i starting going a little soft (not as hard ) still managed to cum in her mouth .

Now its Saturday and still had no interest but decided just now to go have a look at some gay porn and see what happens and it had got me hard as a rockbut if i was to cum right now the interest then may just dissapear again in becoming Gay.

I'm actually not that familiar with iTunes, I use Foobar2000. All you do with Foobar to queue something up is right click and select "enqueue in Foobar2000." Then it gets appended to your play list. Then you go into Foobar, play the first file, and the enqueued file(s) will play automatically in succession.

I know what you mean about losing interest in CFG once you're no longer horny. I went through that a lot. The non-sexual part of you is still going to be saying "Why do this?" When you're horny, you'll want to do it, when you aren't, you won't. I think that's something to consider when using any of these files. You have to say, "OK, it's a turn-on, but what will it do to my life?" Of course, I usually end up doing whatever turns me on anyway. :-)

I'm going through this now with the penis shrink file, I'll say "Nah, this is ridiculous, I'm not going to do this anymore," and then find myself listening again, partly because it turns me on and more and more because of the programming in the file. So that's something to consider with Curse Forced Gay. At some point, it will become difficult or impossible to reverse it. You'll find yourself forced to listen. Maybe you'll beat the suggestion to listen for a few days or even weeks, but then one day it will hit you and you'll find yourself listening and you'll be hooked again.

So -- you're experiencing a lot of resistance. You *can* get past it, but is it really a good idea? I mean, some guys have listened without resistance -- they were bi and wanted to be exclusively gay, they had poor relationships with women, what have you. But maybe there's too much good in your current life to give in to the turn-on? A small penis won't hurt me, but I've had to decide against listening to files that I loved but didn't think would work for me in real life, e.g., Stroke Sissy.

[Warren42]

After a month of listening to CFG once a day, I'm never going back to being straight! XD It's so much better to let a real man take control! I might start listening to Stroke Sissy too has anyone listened to it? Thanx bitches! XOXO

[Alien4420]

After a month of listening to CFG once a day, I'm never going back to being straight! XD It's so much better to let a real man take control! I might start listening to Stroke Sissy too has anyone listened to it? Thanx bitches! XOXO

Stroke Sissy is a *great* file, but it will make you dress full time.

[rigsby]

I'll say "Nah, this is ridiculous, I'm not going to do this anymore," and then find myself listening again, partly because it turns me on and more and more because of the programming in the file. So that's something to consider with Curse Forced Gay. At some point, it will become difficult or impossible to reverse it. You'll find yourself forced to listen. Maybe you'll beat the suggestion to listen for a few days or even weeks, but then one day it will hit you and you'll find yourself listening and you'll be hooked again.

One interesting thing I noticed, now that I've listened to CFG so many times: I've pretty much memorized most of the post-induction monologue. So when I'm relaxing in bed (or just on the couch), I can run through it in my head and get just as horny. Very convenient. :lol:

[avalon69]

come on sisters!! Updates!

*muahh!*

ava
xxx

[Ryan83]

So, in the interest of updates (even though no one ever responds to me so I get the feeling no one wants to talk to me, but in case anyone actually cares), this past week has been very interesting and very good.

After struggling for years and years, two things happened in the last couple of weeks. First, my attraction to women is coming back in a BIG way. Thank GOD. I can't tell you how happy that makes me. Secondly, I finally just accepted that I'm bi, and I'm embracing it. Whether it was this file that gave me an attraction to men or not I don't know (and I do seriously doubt it, I think it was always there, dormant). If I truly thought it was the file I would be on the verge of suicide depressed but since I don't think that was it I can make peace with this.

So, yeah. I'm done with this file for good. But hey, I guess I can at least talk about how hot men are with everyone. :D

[Alien4420]

Hey Ryan,

Good to hear things have taken a turn for the better.

I wouldn't read too much into people not responding. These aren't high traffic groups and a lot of posts get no reply. Also, after you'd struggled back and forth for so long, I think we were running out of advice.

In the end, what matters is that something worked for you.

[Ryan83]

Thanks, Alien! :)

Ok, can I jump into the guy talk now? I want to be with a guy so bad I can't stand it.

[janus_lead]

Hello everyone. I'm... I wouldn't say that I'm underage, but yes I'm underage. Don't worry, I'm not some curious 13 year old. I'm bisexual, leaning more to the gay side, otherwise I wouldn't be here. Having a difficult childhood with lots of family conflicts had some effects on me. I'm not a emotional person, I suppose that's why the few files I've listened to had no effects on me. Personally I find the notion of "Straight-to-Gay" laughable. For one, it is impossible to change the structure of one's brain, one's sexual orientation is determined, if I'm not mistaken, before birth and/or at childhood, when the child's reproductive organ releases hormones to the brain. In some cases (most of the cases of the people on this forum), either the brain failed to absorb enough hormones, or the reproductive organ failed to produce enough (or produced too much). In which case, the brain receives reduce testosterone and/or increased estrogen (in the case of a gay male), causing uneven brain development in regions co-responding to sexual interest. It is, however, possible to implant suggestions, of which I suspect, would be temporary if they aren't periodically reinforced.

At 13, I thought I was gay. Why? I read a book, my mum (who doesn't read nor write nor speak English) bought be a book titled "The Ruines". Those who read that book probably know that there is a masturbation scene in there. Me being a curious 13 year old (see? CURIOUS) tried it out and found myself fantasizing of one of my tuition mates (a guy, obviously). But at 16, I wandered across lesbian porn, hey! HEY! I'm not sure about Americans okay? But we Asian kids do that kinda stuff, you know, watch porn. Buuuuuutt... Anyway, back to my story. ANYWAY, I wander upon lesbian porn, and I liked it! So I mentally noted to myself that I'm bi. ... Let that sink in a bit. Yes. So, is all about discovery, some people discover their gay side (and in some cases, straight side) waaayyy past their youth, like in their late 50s. I can't give you researches to prove my point, I've got my studies to worry about. So yeah, raise the mizzenmast, jib the topsails, I'll leave you folks to chew on that.

[Alien4420]

Janus,

We have in fact no idea why some people are gay and some aren't. Twin studies show that it is partly genetic, but only partly; having an identical twin who is gay increases the chance that one will be gay oneself, but only to 50%, not 100% as would be the case if it were purely genetic.

History is however replete with accounts of societies in which homosexuality was *preferred* by men. Some of those same societies no longer have the preference, ruling out some kind of direct genetic connection (which would be improbable anyway from a Darwinian perspective). This was true of the British Celts, it was true of the ancient Greeks, whose motto was "Women for duty, men for pleasure."

Furthermore, we have known since the great sex researcher Kinsey that human sexuality does not divide into neat categories. Rather, we sit along a continuum from straight to gay.

It appears that most of us are born bisexual with a heterosexual preference, and that the subconscious mind can be programmed to bring out one side or the other.

If you look at all the accounts of people here doing the supposedly impossible -- gay guys turning straight, straight guys turning gay -- you will see that the conventional wisdom on the topic is pretty darn silly and determined more by society's social/political needs than actual science.

You'll learn as you get older to take conventional wisdom with a grain of salt.

[Alien4420]

Thanks, Alan! :)

Ok, can I jump into the guy talk now? I want to be with a guy so bad I can't stand it.

LOL, that's really cool. Wish I could be bi -- best of both worlds. This way I have to settle for half. :-|

[Ryan83]

Oh, man! I'm sorry I got your name wrong. I edited my original post but...gah! Sorry. 8O

Yeah, I'm enjoying it a lot. I can't stop looking at women in bikinis. And men...man. If I don't suck a cock soon I am going to explode.

[Alien4420]

No problem, my name is stupid, anyway. I just couldn't think of a good one when I signed up.

Maybe you should date a t girl. :-)

[Ryan83]

Thought about it, but I'm leaning toward no. But I've been starting to think about a poly relationship. One of each. :D

I keep having this fantasy of waking up next to my boyfriend and lovingly going down on him.

[Alien4420]

That's a hot fantasy. :-)

You're getting me thinking about trying for bi again, but what with Teeny Weenie, that may not be an option for long. Also, I've noticed that the thought of having sex with women has started to make me nervous the way the thought of having sex with men used to. Even straight couples kissing on TV bugs me now.

[janus_lead]

Well sir, I honestly did not actually ask you to do research. I was just trying to be sarcastic. :roll:

[Alien4420]

Oops, afraid it went over my head. It's not so different from some of the serious posts I see . . .

[Ryan83]

I have never, in my life, been interested in having a man for a domme. I've experimented with S&M and stuff but always with women. But tonight, out of nowhere, I got really horny thinking about having a guy be my master. I feel like, as I've embraced my attraction to men, it might be getting stronger.

Also, I fantacized about a guy I work with. That has NEVER happened before.

And I keep having a fantasy of my naked boyfriend walking down the hallway and me saying something like, "Now, you know that's not fair because you know I can't resist you." And then sucking him off.

[avalon69]

moooorrrreee updates pleeasseee :-)

[Alien4420]

If my calendar is right, it's five years to the day since I first listened!

[OxyFemboi]

Alien wrote
We have in fact no idea why some people are gay and some aren't.

Well, we sorta do. We have the human genome mapped and scientists are now talking about the proteome -- the map of the proteins attached to genes which apparently activate the genes. Some people have done twin studies and while the genomes are identical, the proteins attached to those genes are different -- and sometimes attached to different genes. This could explain much of the differences between identical twins -- temperment, for example.

Now I'm speculating here ... but if being gay involves genes, perhaps in identical twins, one had the gay gene(s) activated, and one doesn't? That would explain a lot.

Now I'll go back to watching everyone join the club.

[Alien4420]

One of many possibilities. That's the problem, there are too many possibilities. And I don't think that the simple gay/straight binary classification does justice to actual human behavior. We know that our sexuality is a continuum, and there's a world of difference between say a bearish biker top and a swishy sissy bottom.

My personal sense of it is that not all people are gay for the same reasons, that human sexuality is multifactorial. After all, those of us here *know* that sexuality can be changed in many from gay to straight or straight to gay merely by reprogramming the subconscious with hypnosis, something that should be pretty obvious given that entire societies have preferred homosexuality, e.g., the ancient Greeks and Celts. At the same time, the twin studies point to 50% prenatal or hereditary influence, there are those studies of digit length, etc. So I think it's a combination of nature and nurture, and I don't think all of us are gay for the same reason -- those of us in this thread certainly aren't!

One thing I (and someone else here) noticed -- it's very hard for me to be bi. I can be one or the other, even switch at will (when I was listening to Forced Bi), but it's really hard for me to be both. Whereas women apparently respond sexually equally to images of men and women and even monkeys having sex. So it seems to me possible that some guys are born with a more female sexuality, and so more amenable to being gay. We all know sissies who look and act girlish, there are studies that show that people can often pick out gay guys just by looking at their faces, and we've all known lesbians who are very masculine -- deep voices, masculine aggression and interests, masculine facial structure and body build, etc.

And then there are interesting observations like the fact that straight guys who take DHT blockers report that they start having fantasies about sex with men, even after they've stopped the med.

So my personal sense is thaI we're been looking at complex phenomena through simplistic eyes, trying to find one precipitating factor and creating a single binary classification when in fact human sexuality is more complex.

[OxyFemboi]

I agree that sexuality is a complex phenomenon. I just suggested one possibility of a possible cause for the twin studies turning out the way they did.

Alien wrote:
straight guys who take DHT blockers report that they start having fantasies about sex with men, even after they've stopped the med.

I didn't know that. Thanks for the information.

ViVe's Feminine Conditioning works wonders in inducing feminine behavior via hypnosis. Just in case anyone is interested ....

I had a minor problem with being slightly attracted to females -- I was a Kinsey 5.99 -- so I listened to CFG a few times. Now I'm a pure Kinsey six.

[Alien4420]

Attraction to women was the last thing to go for me, although part of that was presumably due to the fact that I tried listening to forced straight, train bisexual, and forced bi along the way.

I've noticed some interesting changes since I listened to some Sarnoga files while I was shrinking -- Teenage Boy Bitch 1 and 2, Sissy Boy Training, and Forever Gay. I'd never listened to the first two and listened only once, while I'd listened to the others once or twice before. Anyway, once I went back to looking at porn, I discovered that Teenage Boy Bitch had changed me a lot after only a single listen. I've became much more submissive and totally obsessed with doing things to cocks. At least, I think that's what did it, I'd listened to some other files as well during that period -- Reinforcer, Deepening, Bubble Induction, Freedom from Mental Bondage, and I refreshed Email Slave -- and these presumably made contributions as well.

[Ryan83]

I. Cannot. Stop. Thinking. About. Cocks.

[OxyFemboi]

Ryan wrote:
I. Cannot. Stop. Thinking. About. Cocks.

Magnificent subject to think about all the time, isn't it?