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oxdude wrote:sexyant100, you have my permission to cum one time -- and one time only -- on Friday, May 23, 2014 ... but you are not allowed to cum until then.
Alien4420 wrote:Well the best thing to do is not to play with yourself. Playing with yourself and not being able to come is a million times worse than not being able to play with yourself.
I think I went about two weeks without stroking once, when my cock was pierced. That was as long as I could go before I went so crazy with desire I broke down and did it. So I know you can get there.
sexyant wrote:
Thank you oxdude i think. Its going to be hell waiting that long. My mind seams to always want to play but it knows it futile. I will get very horny. Thank you
[I know I shouldn't play with myself ... ] but my mind thinks otherwise. When i listen to that file for some reason i just need to play. Trouble is i just hornier and hornier and every play mean i get more submissive and more frustrated. I was thinking of doing anotherfile to try to get my mind of my need
rgn wrote:I'm not convinced chastity in and of itself should make someone more submissive. I think there is more of a dynamic involved in becoming more submissive. Especially if asking permission to orgasm from strangers. Although the file does state it has submissive overtones. If one has the desire to be more submissive, it will likely bring that out.
In my mind there is a slight difference between a need or desire to be kept chaste by a lover or master, and the desire for orgasm denial for short periods of time. For some I can see how Cal's curse could be used to simply satisfy tease/denial play. Being kept very aroused as the sexual frustration builds stronger and stronger, the need for release builds stronger and stronger... until someone grants permission... the resulting orgasm would be so much more amazing at this point! Only to start the cycle again to achieve another amazing orgasm.
The trick is to be granted release before the frustration builds up to the point it is no longer enjoyable.
By the way, I have not listened to Cal's curse, but I have had various forms of orgasm denial that required me to do certain tasks or ask permission. My experience is if the suggestions are generic in that you simply give up control of achieving orgasm, you give it up for all forms of sexual stimulation. You will need permission. Period. Any type of sexual stimulation will just make you horny. And frustrated. Have you noticed if things you find erotic make you much more horny than before? Over time I noticed I could get extremely aroused just from an erotic thought or seeing someone attractive. It can be hard to control your thoughts...
Alien wrote
I was a bit concerned when Oxdude gave Sexyvant such a long period of denial because going for two weeks is so much harder than going for a couple of days, but now I'm thinking that with time Sexyvant will become accustomed to longer periods of denial and that his subconscious will adapt as mine has. Of course, it's also fun to be jerked around on a stick and forced to beg every few days.
Alien4420 wrote:
All every close to my own experience/observations. Since I've been listening to Teeny Weenie things have taken a slightly different course in that the file makes you seek other forms of sexual pleasure. Curiously, though, I find myself -- giving up? -- on satisfying myself. I'm constantly horny as you suggest but somehow I'm getting used to my status, getting used to (and enjoying) the constant state of unfulfilled desire.
I really wouldn't have thought that would happen since I've always been the type who was into short term denial and control rather than long-term denial. The latter scared me, since I didn't want to give up sexual pleasure. But now it seems I've been trained not to care and I'm beginning to understand how people can go locked up for years at a time.
I was a bit concerned when Oxdude gave Sexyvant such a long period of denial because going for two weeks is so much harder than going for a couple of days, but now I'm thinking that with time Sexyvant will become accustomed to longer periods of denial and that his subconscious will adapt as mine has. Of course, it's also fun to be jerked around on a stick and forced to beg every few days.
One of the cool things about being controlled by everybody is that everyone has different ideas of what to do. Sexyvant might find himself allowed to come every couple of days for a while, and then someone will tell him that he can't orgasm for a month. Pretty cool.
I don't believe it works quite like that. Anybody could give the person with the curse permission to orgasm as long as the conditions for the permission are satisfied or fulfilled. Meaning, if someone else gives permission during that, they can choose to orgasm with the other person's permission while in the process of nullifying yours as the conditions for your permission are no longer satisfied provided someone would do it.oxdude wrote:Alien wrote
I was a bit concerned when Oxdude gave Sexyvant such a long period of denial because going for two weeks is so much harder than going for a couple of days, but now I'm thinking that with time Sexyvant will become accustomed to longer periods of denial and that his subconscious will adapt as mine has. Of course, it's also fun to be jerked around on a stick and forced to beg every few days.
I intend -- if you guys allow it -- to basically keep extending the period of time. The periods between orgasm will grow longer and longer. Eventually, it will be only a few times a year ... then less ... less ... once a year ... less.
sexyant, the next times you are going to be allowed to orgasm after the May 23, 2014 date I gave you are June 21, 2014 (Midsummer), August 1, 2014 (Lammas), October 31, 2014 (Samhain), and February 2, 2015 (Imbolc). You are allowed to orgasm once on each of these dates. You are not allowed to orgasm between these dates.
The "other" files sexyant should listen to are geared toward making him more and more submissive. If he isn't submissive now, he will be ... totally ... submissive ... eventually.
Alien4420 wrote:Also, maybe you could try nipple play -- you can get orgasms from that although for me anyway it isn't something that can be done with full effect every day -- and also prostate milking.
Though basically I agree with Jan. Your role should shift to pleasuring others. I've had to make that transition with Teeny Weenie, I can get weenie orgasms but with 2-1/2 limp inches I can no longer penetrate. Whether it's us or a real life partner, coming for you is now is a reward rather than a right, something you will have to work for and earn.
oxdude wrote:Alien wrote
I was a bit concerned when Oxdude gave Sexyvant such a long period of denial because going for two weeks is so much harder than going for a couple of days, but now I'm thinking that with time Sexyvant will become accustomed to longer periods of denial and that his subconscious will adapt as mine has. Of course, it's also fun to be jerked around on a stick and forced to beg every few days.
I intend -- if you guys allow it -- to basically keep extending the period of time. The periods between orgasm will grow longer and longer. Eventually, it will be only a few times a year ... then less ... less ... once a year ... less.
sexyant, the next times you are going to be allowed to orgasm after the May 23, 2014 date I gave you are June 21, 2014 (Midsummer), August 1, 2014 (Lammas), October 31, 2014 (Samhain), and February 2, 2015 (Imbolc). You are allowed to orgasm once on each of these dates. You are not allowed to orgasm between these dates.
The "other" files sexyant should listen to are geared toward making him more and more submissive. If he isn't submissive now, he will be ... totally ... submissive ... eventually.
sexyant wrote:
Omg your not serious ox dude not sure this is possible all i need is some kind guy or girls permission. I will be a long time.
I did listen to show your ass. Not sure if it worked.
steelchastityboi wrote:
My new Master will remove my chastity device and allow me to have an orgasm, if this board votes and decides to give me permission.
im_not_here
Started listening to Cals Curse twice a day a couple of days ago. I still feel as though I could break the suggestion, but I really don't feel like it. Definitely starting to feel a little backed up though.
Anyone have a suggestion for a companion file to this? A trigger to become more horny, or something more... interesting?
OxyFemboi wrote:
Asking to become more horny while listening to a curse file that makes you need permission to cum is just asking for trouble.
im_not_here wrote:OxyFemboi wrote:
Asking to become more horny while listening to a curse file that makes you need permission to cum is just asking for trouble.
True enough. This seems to be one of the only hypnosis files I've found that has a measurable effect on me. Or at least, makes me think it has an effect on me, which is essentially the same thing. you're probably right in saying that I'll regret it, but I'm going to be adding cardigan's horny when I can.
im_not_here wrote:Started listening to Cals Curse twice a day a couple of days ago. I still feel as though I could break the suggestion, but I really don't feel like it. Definitely starting to feel a little backed up though.
Anyone have a suggestion for a companion file to this? A trigger to become more horny, or something more... interesting?
CyrilMtl wrote:How does this curse work ?
I play with chastity belt before but that's different,
You can still get hard and masturbate ?
What stop you to cum ? Are you always on the edge but can't go over ?
How do you 'clean' the curse ? Just wait some days without listening ?
(I know some curse like CFG are pretty strong)
I want to try it or a soften uncursed version.
CyrilMtl wrote:Must be an interesting feeling,
You want to cum but you stop masturbate because of the file
But you know it's the file and not you ...
Like two brains fighting for the control of the cock
Are you 'forced' to beg for the ok of someone else ?
Can you cheat it ? (Email to yourself, two accounts on the chat/forum ?)
How long does it take for the curse to disappear ?
More and more interested by that file
rgn wrote:
ViVe has several files that can be quite arousing
For optimal results listen for at least 5 times (that is five orgasms, not five loops of the file) before going to the next file, ideally 10 times!
im_not_here wrote:
Um... wow.
Day 5. I've been listening at least twice a day. This is the first day where I tried "testing" the suggestions...
I can't cum! I spent maybe 20 minutes this morning trying... everything! I must have used up half my lube...
This is completely maddening... :oops:
diode168 wrote:im_not_here you have my permission this one time to cum once. You may as well enjoy your last orgasm.
I'm sure your condition is not entirely unexpected, though. Unless you are one of those dudes who think "Yeah, right! This is so not going to happen to me! The file works as advertised ... duh!
im_not_here wrote:
I expected it to work, Just not this well. I've never had suggestions work well on me without playing along, at least a little, you see. Consciously remembering triggers, getting into the right mind frame for personality changes, that sort of stuff.
This though... it feels the same but different. It's become a subconscious consent... but yeah, It's not that I didn't think it'd work. It's that I'm rather inexperienced with hypnosis. Well, I wanted proof, and I got it. I'm glad I decided on choosing a... relatively... harmless curse. :oops:
OxyFemboi wrote:
I could recommend a few other files you could play "chicken" with. :twisted: Some curses make you listen and also make you lust for the change the curse inflicts, regardless of how you originally felt about it.
If you want interesting hypnotic times, you could listen to E-mail Slave.
I'd also love to see the effects you get when you listen to Feminine Conditioning by ViVe.
im_not_here wrote:
This is where you guys come in, if you choose to. As evil as she is, she only has so many ideas. She wanted me to ask the WMM community for ideas fitting this situation. Keep in mind that I'm still living with my parents. Any hypnotic tax will have to be relatively covert in its effects.
im_not-here wrote
Bit of an interruption in my schedule. between a new job, crippling headaches, and no alone time in the house (so no speaker listening), I've been unable to listen for the last 5 or so days. I fully plan to get back into it once I get my head fixed though. My GF really enjoyed my enthusiasm to please her for the week I was chaste. :-)
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