Thanks Route42,
While your response is not exactly what I am looking for it is quite helpful. It has actually grown my workload from one file into two though. XD
You brought up some really good points I will address along with what I was/am trying to achieve.
Route42 wrote: Without knowing more specifically what your goal is, it's hard for me to answer. I do have some general, broad thoughts on the topic.
Originally my goal was one curse file that had two main parts to it in a way. The first part is to make the subject permanently gay just like CFG (honestly never thought that was that much of a "curse" anyways) and other is the curse part. Basically the file would make someone a stereotypical fox furry in a way. They would always be gay but if they get turned on and start acting on there foxy urges (Masturbating, sex, maybe even trying to seduce someone) they will become a horny subby anthro fox(the basic stereotype in the fandom which includes being gay) till they cum. However because they are so submissive they can't cum without permission from someone.
However you have made a few good points so my new goal will be a Forced Gay file then use what I can from that to work on the other file (If I can stay motivated).
Route42 wrote: 1. I find this type of file most effective when it avoids gender-specific terms; while I'm sure a fair number of users are physically male who identify as men, there are a number of users (and judging by the amount of feminization files on this site, a not insignificant number) who are physical men who identify more feminine (or perhaps avoid gender classifications all together). Terms like "gay" mean different things depending on the perceived gender of the listener. I have yet to find a good file that does this; as such I have taken to writing up my own scripts. (Doesn't mean it doesn't exist--just that I haven't found it yet.)
I find this statement to be a bit confusing could you elaborate a bit or give an example? Are you saying something along the lines of maybe forced homosexual without the use of male or female pronouns? I guess it can be done but it does make some problems and some major limits.
Route42 wrote: 2. CFG, and other files of this type, are generally focused on one aspect of attraction: lust of the male body, especially the cock part of the body. It's always seemed weird to me to limit the file to that one particular issue when attraction to a specific sex is about a whole menagerie of things. A lot of people can listen to a file like CFG and make the leap from "body lust" to the other factors of attraction, but I think my subconscious is too literal to do that.
I have noticed this in a lot of similar files and it seems like none even attempt to transition from being all about sex to other factors other than maybe the sissy files which as you mention later is a whole nother kink to a file. Odds are that in the file if I can make it right it will start with a focus on the sexual (why a lot of people listen anyways) but include some other suggestions for attraction for transition. I have a few ideas but would love to hear some others.
Route42 wrote: 3. I know I prefer it when files stick to one kink. To use CFG as an example, it's about becoming gay, yes, but also wraps in a lot of shame and humiliation suggestions. Maybe there is a hypnosis reason for putting those in there, but I know whatever effect I'd experience from the file would be best experienced (by me) free from those ideas. Not my interest. While those suggestions haven't seemed to limit the file's broader appeal, I do think they're the cause of some of the struggles some people have had with the file.
Agreed. Actually this has been my pet peeve with a lot of files. When it comes to making someone gay via hypnosis it almost always includes one or a combination of shame, humiliation, enslavement, or sissy/feminization. It can be really annoying. Also it annoys me how a lot of the time it includes disgust with the opposite sex. I have heard plenty of gay guys who can appreciate the female form but it just doesn't do anything for them, not disgust. It always feels like they are trying to make someone not just gay but an anti female jerk to me.
Sorry for the mini rant there.
Anyways the more input I get the better. Thanks.
(PS: I know the fox idea would belong in the Transformation section but this get's more activity and more of the feedback I am looking for. Also now I am looking at making a actual forced gay file, so now it fits. In other words pleas don't move this.)
