Time for a Debate/wale up call!!!

[Tangy]

Wake up call!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Tired of Not getting any results in hypnosis????????



If you are then read on............................




First my real name is Matthew /Abby/Tiekey/Adby




since/every since 1977 when I was first interested in Hypnosis I started my study's with Potentials Unlimited, MP3 Self Hypnosis MP3s, Behavior ...



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1. even though hypnosis is great for cosmetic proposes it can not Alter reality for instance, it can not turn your penis Into a virginal like some files here on this site claim, it can not turn you into a female even though you may act like a female think you are a female and even set on the Toilet to pee you are still a male,
It can not turn you into a Animal, even though you may act like one,

my con collusion is we can not Alter reality with hypnosis

if you have your own opinion about the subject then speak now or ever hold your peace Chill out or participate In the Debate :twisted: :lol:

[lego]

I'm certain everyone knows that hypnosis cannot alter reality in anyway.

I guess a good debate is what could hypnosis achieve?

The common man doesn't really know of this or have they already concluded that hypnosis doesn't hold much potential?

It can only alter the way we perceive reality which is enough for some people. It can cause some physical changes for example the teeny weenie file. The changes that occur in ones behaviour listening to files like dom to sub, bimbo, or feminine etc. Some files can also drain your brain to take away the ability to think and even attraction towards men or woman can be changed with the gay and straight curse files.

So, hypnosis can achieve things that may be considered amazing to some people but it doesn't produce great miracles or unrealistic fantasies.

[OxyFemboi]

Some physical changes can be induced via hypnosis.

Shrinking penis files, like Sarnoga's Curse of the Teeny Weenie fall into this category. (If it doesn't work, someone should tell all of the people who have posted on the Success Stories Forum in the terrible success under terrible success ... incredi8ble shrinking penis. smaller2's Shrinking-- Control Panel for your height also works well. I can honestly state that I have lost at least three inches in height. (I want to lose even more height as well.) The measurements were taken in my doctor's office by his nurse, so the measurements are not biased by slouching or any other extraneous factors.

My opinion is that the results one obtains from hypnosis is a result of what you believe hypnosis is capable of doing than some abstract prognostication of "this can happen but that is clearly impossible".

[JackDrago]

Okay, some physical changes respond to hypnosis, some don't. I have grown hair on my chest and gained about 1/2" of dick size from hypnosis. I measurably raised male hormone levels.

Less physically, I have also changed behavior patterns leading to fat loss and muscle growth, stopped masturbation and increased penile sensitivity and sexual stamina.

[ProfessorPig]

Some physical changes can be induced via hypnosis.

Shrinking penis files, like Sarnoga's Curse of the Teeny Weenie fall into this category. (If it doesn't work, someone should tell all of the people who have posted on the Success Stories Forum in the terrible success under terrible success ... incredi8ble shrinking penis. smaller2's Shrinking-- Control Panel for your height also works well. I can honestly state that I have lost at least three inches in height. (I want to lose even more height as well.) The measurements were taken in my doctor's office by his nurse, so the measurements are not biased by slouching or any other extraneous factors.

My opinion is that the results one obtains from hypnosis is a result of what you believe hypnosis is capable of doing than some abstract prognostication of "this can happen but that is clearly impossible".

i have a hypothesis about that. i think there are definitely limitations to what your body could do, but i do think there is more that can be done that has not yet. i think many changes cannot be made because there is no easy way of explaining to your body how to do them. when you have a triggered sensation for example, you are calling upon all the relevant physical sensations that the subject has already experienced or what they can imagine based off of their real experiances. its pretty easy to say, "remember that time this happened? do that again." and the more vividly it is described, the more effective it seems to be.

you could liken it to trying to build a car from a pile of parts. you could only put it together if you were given the proper instructions, or it was something you have done many times before.

i think there may be personal limitations or aptitudes for different parts of hypnosis that change from person to person. i now may people struggle with hallucinations for example. personally i struggle with any commands that tell me to move in a deep trance, my mind just defaults to imagining doing whatever action is requested of me.

[OxyFemboi]

ProfessorPig wrote
i have a hypothesis about that. i think there are definitely limitations to what your body could do, but i do think there is more that can be done that has not yet. i think many changes cannot be made because there is no easy way of explaining to your body how to do them.

There probably are limitations as to what properly phrased suggestions in hypnosis can do. I have not run across many limitations yet. Most of what has been thought of as a limitation probably could be ascribed to a lack of belief that "this concept" will work. In fact, I wasn't too sure that I would shrink in height, yet I managed to shrink several inches while sort-of-believing that the file would work.

My personal belief is that reality is far more malleable that most people think, including most pagans, for whom the malleability of "reality" is a root belief of faith. What is the use of becoming, for one example, Wiccan, if you don't believe that your spells will have any effect?

The Kybalion by Three Initiates teaches that this reality is a thought, or to put in more modern terms, a program running on a computer. We may not be able to affect the major parts of the program (consensus reality)-- like Earth being the third planet revolving around the sun -- but surely we should be able to change various minor subroutines (like what our body looks like and how we act).

[darkideals]

Normally I would just say "well, obviously" but the way you're wording it deserves mention.

You say "hypnosis cannot alter reality", and I respond by asking "what is reality?" Seriously, what is reality? All reality is, is what your 5 senses bring back to your brain and interpret as "the world" you live in.

Imagine for a moment that you have no sight, no smell, no hearing, no touch, no taste, no speech etc.. What would your reality be?...you wouldn't have one! You couldn't talk to anyone, if someone came in front of you then you couldn't see them, if they fed you then you couldn't taste it, you couldn't smell anything, and if they touched you then you wouldn't even feel it if they picked you up and dropped you in a river somewhere. All that our reality is based on is the stimuli that our senses experience and give to the brain, and the brain "makes" it into reality. Without those senses there IS NO reality.

So if hypnosis can alter your senses, making you see/hear/taste/smell/feel something that "isn't there" then it can indeed alter reality. The first thing you'll probably say to that is "well that's a hallucination it isn't real" but why is that? All that hypnosis is, is somebody putting you in a relaxed enough state that your analytical/conscious mind is no longer 100% in the forefront and active, unable to contest anything. And since we've established that reality itself is just what your mind and senses make it, then basically all hypnosis is, is the hypnotizer pretending to be your senses/conscious brain, giving you the same kind of stimuli that your taste/touch/sight etc.. normally do, but since your in trance you have no other stimuli coming to your body and therefore can't tell that the stimuli the hypnotizer is giving "isn't real".

And the key thing is that the person giving the hypnosis is using HIS/HER senses to speak to you and snap their fingers etc.. just like you would in "reality". Are their brains and senses any less real than yours? Nope. So why is it that the stimuli given to your mind by THEIR senses is considered "not real" while yours is? For all we know what we consider "reality" might be fake, we could all be in the matrix, and as mentioned in the matrix "we'd never know".

So while, yes, hypnotizing yourself cannot make you appear to be a cat or a woman or something to "other people", this is only because THEIR senses haven't been effected by the hypnosis. So in other words it IS real, but it's only real to YOU; but if you were to hypnotize everyone else in the room and suggest that you are a woman then it becomes a "if a tree falls in an empty forest and nobody hears it does it make a sound" argument. If you become a woman in your mind as well as the minds of the only people who know of your existence, then are you really still a man? Schroedinger would argue with you if you said yes to that......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAAlDoAtV7Y

(or if you're a gamer here's more appropriate creepy music to end my time/space discussion)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX6qdsXaeu4

[darkideals]

Some physical changes can be induced via hypnosis.

Shrinking penis files, like Sarnoga's Curse of the Teeny Weenie fall into this category. (If it doesn't work, someone should tell all of the people who have posted on the Success Stories Forum in the terrible success under terrible success ... incredi8ble shrinking penis. smaller2's Shrinking-- Control Panel for your height also works well. I can honestly state that I have lost at least three inches in height. (I want to lose even more height as well.) The measurements were taken in my doctor's office by his nurse, so the measurements are not biased by slouching or any other extraneous factors.

My opinion is that the results one obtains from hypnosis is a result of what you believe hypnosis is capable of doing than some abstract prognostication of "this can happen but that is clearly impossible".

Even more importantly than telling the posters in the success forum is telling the people who posted legit un-doctored before/after pictures with time stamps showing the rather drastic size changes in some cases.

Like I mentioned in my "sorry for the wall of text" post, reality is only what we make it into; there's no such thing as one true reality. I would go so far as to say reality is a fallacy, a false concept to bring comfort to us or to fit into our understanding of the world. In fact, quantum physics DIRECTLY contradicts the concept of one true reality by stating that every single possible action and outcome of every single choice all happen and that this simply creates several different dimensions/universes in which reality differs from one another. So who's to say that by using a hypnosis file to alter your body you aren't simply shifting into a 99.9999% similar dimension with your penis size etc.. being different?

[G_H]

since/every since 1977 when I was first interested in Hypnosis I started my study's with Potentials Unlimited, MP3 Self Hypnosis MP3s, Behavior ...

I'm not trying to be rude or anything. I'm just having trouble understanding. Are you saying you've been listening to MP3 files from that website since 1977?

[hiffayo]

You say "hypnosis cannot alter reality", and I respond by asking "what is reality?" Seriously, what is reality? All reality is, is what your 5 senses bring back to your brain and interpret as "the world" you live in.

Imagine for a moment that you have no sight, no smell, no hearing, no touch, no taste, no speech etc.. What would your reality be?...you wouldn't have one! You couldn't talk to anyone, if someone came in front of you then you couldn't see them, if they fed you then you couldn't taste it, you couldn't smell anything, and if they touched you then you wouldn't even feel it if they picked you up and dropped you in a river somewhere. All that our reality is based on is the stimuli that our senses experience and give to the brain, and the brain "makes" it into reality. Without those senses there IS NO reality.

Somebody once said that "reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Assuming you have human senses that work okay and don't lie to you, that's a pretty good answer. We don't have to be sure that the world is how we perceive it. As long as we can make predictions about it and see if they come true that's good enough.

You throw up an apple and it falls down. That's reality. With freaky quantum effects it might fall up once in 10^10000 times and that may also be part of reality, but it's so unlikely that most people need not be bothered by it.

And the key thing is that the person giving the hypnosis is using HIS/HER senses to speak to you and snap their fingers etc.. just like you would in "reality". Are their brains and senses any less real than yours? Nope. So why is it that the stimuli given to your mind by THEIR senses is considered "not real" while yours is? For all we know what we consider "reality" might be fake, we could all be in the matrix, and as mentioned in the matrix "we'd never know".

That's mixing up concepts. Their stimulation of your brain is perfectly real. It does however make your brain/senses lie to you about what is actually happening. That doesn't make it real. It just changes your perception. Since you just argued that other people's minds are just as real as your own, it should be a point for why it's not real. They are not participating in your altered perception of the world.

Really, in the end it's all just arguing semantics. "Real" is a useful concept and understood intuitively until you start overthinking it. If you change it to mean "that, which is subjectively perceived" it becomes less useful, because it can mean anything and then you need to make up a new word for "things happening the way they usually happen."

"if a tree falls in an empty forest and nobody hears it does it make a sound"

This one is easy, it's semantics again. The whole issue is that the word "sound" can mean "ripples in a medium" or "perception of those ripples." Split it up and the tree makes ripples in the air, but they are not perceived.

If you become a woman in your mind as well as the minds of the only people who know of your existence, then are you really still a man?

But how likely is that, unless you are a hermit? Are you going to hypnotize your doctor? The ER surgeon if you have an accident? Are you going to stop checking for prostate cancer?

[chase1]

Okay, some physical changes respond to hypnosis, some don't. I have grown hair on my chest and gained about 1/2" of dick size from hypnosis. I measurably raised male hormone levels.

Less physically, I have also changed behavior patterns leading to fat loss and muscle growth, stopped masturbation and increased penile sensitivity and sexual stamina.

I have been listening to JackDrago's donkey dick file for a few days, and have had a huge increase in the size of my limp penis from about 1.5" to almost 5. And, a little more than 1/8" hard. I posted a limp pic a while back, I guess I should post another so you can see the difference, and know that hypnosis can cause real physical changes.

[chase1]

Ok, I posted a current pic for proof that hypnosis can cause real physical changes. I am still very surprised at how much has changed in a short time.